Trump takes fighting stance as election swings toward Biden

[Morch]

3 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Steve Bannon apparently said Christopher Wray and Anthony Fauci could be beheaded and there heads put on a pike as a warning to federal bureaucrats.

In one way it is fun to watch Trump and his supporters flail and moan and litigate and struggle to come up with new conspiracy theories as to corruption in the election.

In another way it's worrisome to see where this heads if Trump supporters take seriously the stuff he and his cronies are putting forward.

Come on Donald leave with just a tiny tiny shred of dignity if any shreds are left.

 

 

 

"Steve Bannon apparently said Christopher Wray and Anthony Fauci could be beheaded and there heads put on a pike as a warning to federal bureaucrats."

 

Maybe Bannon is a Sacha Baron Cohen fan.

[vinci]

this election wasn't about Biden, we had to come out in mass because we can't stand racist, bigotry and stupidity, i believed Biden will also be a one term president, some meaningful person will step in for the people by the people

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Exactly but the Bernie bros will never get that The USA is a center right country at best.

That is changing quickly. Too many college graduates with enormous debt and no job opportunities (and this was BEFORE Covid) are living in their parents garage. Too many non-college graduates in the same boat. They are SICK of politics as usual. 45 originally bragged about not being your typical politician as one of his endearing charms. Boy, did THAT blow up, and here's where we are.

 

The concept of socialism is losing its "boogey man" status by a majority of youth, and hopefully they'll get sick enough of living in their parents' garage to get out and vote accordingly.

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/268766/socialism-popular-capitalism-among-young-adults.aspx

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, vinci said:

even some black are voting for Trump mind boggling isn't

Americans have been conditioned for a very long time that socialism is evil, and Trump has got some of that vote irrespective of race. Just the suggestion Biden has socialist policies is enough to trigger the Pavlov response.

This bemuses other countries where socialism works quite well. Australia has had socialist governments on and off since Federation, and they are the progressive ones. Most major reforms in Australia have been introduced by them.

Just one example is our Medicare and PBS systems, both introduced by Labor governments. Many Americans would crawl over broken glass to have the health system we do.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

Nobody will take any drastic action for a loser, he will hide away and sulk after throwing a few fits of anger.

 

Some sycophant surely will. There's always someone. Then there are those who will do some last minute stuff to line their pockets, or get that post administration job. Also the more 'ideological' ones, who would appreciate the chance to tick a few extra items for the standing agenda.

[Berkshire]

2 minutes ago, vinci said:

this election wasn't about Biden, we had to come out in mass because we can't stand racist, bigotry and stupidity, i believed Biden will also be a one term president, some meaningful person will step in for the people by the people

I'm certain Biden has no interest in doing a 2nd term.  I'm guessing people in the know convinced him that he was best suited to beat Trump and like all decent Americans, Biden believed that Trump was a threat to US ideals and needed to go.  Biden doesn't strike me as a power-hungry sort of guy.  When he says he wants to unite America, I tend to believe he will genuinely try.   

[J Town]

10 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

"Steve Bannon apparently said Christopher Wray and Anthony Fauci could be beheaded and there heads put on a pike as a warning to federal bureaucrats."

 

Maybe Bannon is a Sacha Baron Cohen fan.

Steve Bannon's Twitter and Youtube accounts have been permanently suspended.

 

https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/05/steve-bannons-show-pulled-off-twitter-and-youtube-over-calls-for-violence/

Edited November 6, 2020 by J Town

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8 minutes ago, J Town said:

Biden is just another old white guy, a bootlicking corporate shill. He's against Medicare for All, against college tuition assistance/debt relief, is fully in the pockets of Big Pharma and insurance companies, is courting Jamie Dimon (CEO of JPMorgan Chase) and Michael Bloomberg (billionaire loser) for positions in his cabinet - you don't think Bloomberg "donated" millions of dollars to the Florida race without expecting something in return? - and while Creepy Joe isn't AS big a liar as 45, his lies are still YUGE.

 

I didn't vote for Joe, I voted against 45, and I have to thank some of 45's supporters on this forum cuz I might not have cared save for the vitriol spewed here. First presidential election ever in my adult life.

 

Bernie would have won by now.

 

I have spoken.  ????

The reason he's against Medicare for all is that it's a political loser. The Kaiser foundation did a poll and when people were asked if they were in favor of Medicare For All a big majority said yes. But when they were asked if they approved of it if it meant losing their workplace insurance, that quickly turned into a minority. What their "yes" really means is that they want everyone covered. I honestly don't understand this obsession with Medicare for All. The point of any publicly supported health care system is to get coverage to all. Plenty of countries do this via private insurance. I know that "virtue signalling" is a way inaccurately and overused phrase. But in this case it's valid.

As for Bernie winning? Really? Bernie the socialist. You don't think that would have been used against him? Why do you think the Trump campaign was focussed on underming Biden from day 1?

 

[Tippaporn]

No voter fraud at all.  Perfectly clean election.  LOL

Fox News - Nevada GOP cites voter-fraud claims in criminal referral to AG Barr

 

Lawyers for the Nevada Republican Party sent a criminal referral to Attorney General William Barr on Thursday, claiming they have received reports of at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud in the battleground state. 

"We expect that number to grow substantially," the party tweeted. "Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from NV."

 

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.  Ancient Dem Proverb

[Eric Loh]

20 minutes ago, J Town said:

Biden is just another old white guy, a bootlicking corporate shill. He's against Medicare for All, against college tuition assistance/debt relief, is fully in the pockets of Big Pharma and insurance companies, is courting Jamie Dimon (CEO of JPMorgan Chase) and Michael Bloomberg (billionaire loser) for positions in his cabinet - you don't think Bloomberg "donated" millions of dollars to the Florida race without expecting something in return? - and while Creepy Joe isn't AS big a liar as 45, his lies are still YUGE.

 

I didn't vote for Joe, I voted against 45, and I have to thank some of 45's supporters on this forum cuz I might not have cared save for the vitriol spewed here. First presidential election ever in my adult life.

 

Bernie would have won by now.

 

I have spoken.  ????

I am quite surprised with the numbers that voted Trump. The blue wave didn’t materialized and he won voters beyond his base with his attack on socialism. Perhaps Biden is the right choice. 

[J Town]

Just now, Eric Loh said:

I am quite surprised with the numbers that voted Trump. The blue wave didn’t materialized and he won voters beyond his base with his attack on socialism. Perhaps Biden is the right choice. 

He was the ONLY choice this election cycle, and he only won cuz people hate 45 so severely. I'm personally eating well and exercising so I live long enough to see a President AOC.

(Just now listening to hear if any 45 supporters' heads explode)

[Walker88]

In his bizarre presser today, 45 said, "the election apparatus in Georgia is run by Democrats."

 

Gov Kemp is a Republican.

 

The Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, is in charge of Georgia's election apparatus. He is also a Republican. 45 endorsed him in 2018, saying:

 

45's Twitter account

 

"Brad Raffensperger will be a fantastic Secretary of State for Georgia - will work closely with

@BrianKempGA

. It is really important that you get out and vote for Brad - early voting....

 

3:20 PM · Nov 26, 2018·Twitter for iPhone

[soalbundy]

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

No voter fraud at all.  Perfectly clean election.  LOL

Fox News - Nevada GOP cites voter-fraud claims in criminal referral to AG Barr

 

Lawyers for the Nevada Republican Party sent a criminal referral to Attorney General William Barr on Thursday, claiming they have received reports of at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud in the battleground state. 

"We expect that number to grow substantially," the party tweeted. "Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from NV."

 

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.  Ancient Dem Proverb

The only one arrested sofar was a republican who tried an absentee vote for Trump from his dead mother

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7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

No voter fraud at all.  Perfectly clean election.  LOL

Fox News - Nevada GOP cites voter-fraud claims in criminal referral to AG Barr

 

Lawyers for the Nevada Republican Party sent a criminal referral to Attorney General William Barr on Thursday, claiming they have received reports of at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud in the battleground state. 

"We expect that number to grow substantially," the party tweeted. "Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from NV."

 

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.  Ancient Dem Proverb

You know, if it was a biased organization like say the Nevada Republican Party sending a criminal referral, that would not be concerning. But since it's...oh wait a minute...

Do you realize that anybody can send in a criminal referral? It doesn't mean that there's any real grounds for it. This is utterly insignificant. But "criminal referral" does sound so ominous and official it must signify something serious.

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“STOP THE COUNT,” Trump bellowed on Twitter, a missive he quickly retweeted just over an hour later. “ANY VOTE THAT CAME IN AFTER ELECTION DAY WILL NOT BE COUNTED!” he added.

The only problem: If the vote-counting stopped at that moment, Trump would lose.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mood-election/2020/11/05/57fabc34-1f9c-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html

[Jeffr2]

16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

No voter fraud at all.  Perfectly clean election.  LOL

Fox News - Nevada GOP cites voter-fraud claims in criminal referral to AG Barr

 

Lawyers for the Nevada Republican Party sent a criminal referral to Attorney General William Barr on Thursday, claiming they have received reports of at least 3,062 instances of voter fraud in the battleground state. 

"We expect that number to grow substantially," the party tweeted. "Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting ballots after they moved from NV."

 

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.  Ancient Dem Proverb

Fox News.  Barr.  GOP.  Hardly credible people and organizations.

[Jeffr2]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You know, if it was a biased organization like say the Nevada Republican Party sending a criminal referral, that would not be concerning. But since it's...oh wait a minute...

Do you realize that anybody can send in a criminal referral? It doesn't mean that there's any real grounds for it. This is utterly insignificant. But "criminal referral" does sound so ominous and official it must signify something serious.

Several of their legal Hail Marys have already been shot down.  This one will be also.  The state AG has already said this.

[placeholder]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

Several of their legal Hail Marys have already been shot down.  This one will be also.  The state AG has already said this.

It is bizarre that someone could cite this as serious evidence.

[vinci]

these clowns call for stop the counting in one state but also call for keep on counting in other state, i kid you not, you can't make this poop up

[DogNo1]

Trump spoke too soon but the facts are that Republican lawyers are investigating voting “irregularities” in various locations.  We have yet to see whether they constitute voting fraud.

If Joe Biden wins, he will have the right to appoint 4,000 people to various government positions so the government will actually change character. People only seem to be thinking of the distribution side of socialism.  The generous programs are going to be paid for by our increased taxes.  Fortunately, we seem to have held the Senate and picked some additional representatives.

[J Town]

1 minute ago, DogNo1 said:

Trump spoke too soon but the facts are that Republican lawyers are investigating voting “irregularities” in various locations.  We have yet to see whether they constitute voting fraud.

If Joe Biden wins, he will have the right to appoint 4,000 people to various government positions so the government will actually change character. People only seem to be thinking of the distribution side of socialism.  The generous programs are going to be paid for by our increased taxes.  Fortunately, we seem to have held the Senate and picked some additional representatives.

If Biden wins (and THAT is sticking to the wall more and more), do you think he'll keep Dr. Fauci on?  How about Billy Barr?

[Chomper Higgot]

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The reason he's against Medicare for all is that it's a political loser. The Kaiser foundation did a poll and when people were asked if they were in favor of Medicare For All a big majority said yes. But when they were asked if they approved of it if it meant losing their workplace insurance, that quickly turned into a minority. What their "yes" really means is that they want everyone covered. I honestly don't understand this obsession with Medicare for All. The point of any publicly supported health care system is to get coverage to all. Plenty of countries do this via private insurance. I know that "virtue signalling" is a way inaccurately and overused phrase. But in this case it's valid.

As for Bernie winning? Really? Bernie the socialist. You don't think that would have been used against him? Why do you think the Trump campaign was focussed on underming Biden from day 1?

 

National universal health service and work place insurance are not mutually exclusive.

 

On Bernie and Biden I agree.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

If Biden wins (and THAT is sticking to the wall more and more), do you think he'll keep Dr. Fauci on?  How about Billy Barr?

I suspect in the event of Biden winning the Presidency, he will keep Fauci on, Barr is for the can, my bet Preet Bharara is Biden’s choice for USAG.

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It is bizarre that someone could cite this as serious evidence.

Yeah.  But when your only read Fox News, OANN and Breitbart, your outlook tends to be a bit skewed.

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

National universal health service and work place insurance are not mutually exclusive.

 

On Bernie and Biden I agree.

 

 

Only in the sense that you can get some "extras" that national health service doesn't provide. But the basic important stuff not. Unless you've got a lot of cash to spare.

[soalbundy]

48 minutes ago, J Town said:

Exactly. The Dems could have run a moldy bologna sandwich and that sandwich would have received as many (or maybe more?) votes.

Be realistic, a dead cat perhaps but not a sandwich surely.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Only in the sense that you can get some "extras" that national health service doesn't provide. But the basic important stuff not. Unless you've got a lot of cash to spare.

Completely wrong.

 

 

[vinci]

Bill Barr is a 100% gone if Biden win or even will be prosecuted, remember Barr went after Biden family personally 

[cmarshall]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suspect in the event of Biden winning the Presidency, he will keep Fauci on, Barr is for the can, my bet Preet Bharara is Biden’s choice for USAG.

Fauci is a civil servant, not a political appointee, and can only be fired for some act of moral turpitude.  All of the Cabinet members including Barr will resign on Jan. 20 by custom.  The Atty Gen job goes to a political appointee, not a career prosecutor like Bharara.  Adam Schiff would be a good candidate.

[soalbundy]

Just now, vinci said:

Bill Barr is a 100% gone if Biden win or even will be prosecuted, remember Barr went after Biden family personally 

He is probably filling his cardboard box now.