Trump campaign shifts strategy as recount, lawsuit efforts founder

[Seth1a2a]

I see dead people...... More fact checking errors from team America

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/politics/fact-check-georgia-dead-voter-deborah-jean-christiansen/index.html

Atlanta (CNN)President Donald Trump's campaign and Fox News host Tucker Carlson alleged last week that a vote cast by a Georgia woman named Deborah Jean Christiansen was fraudulent.

The allegation was false -- like two other voter fraud claims the Trump campaign and Carlson leveled against legal Georgia voters last week.

Christiansen answered the door when CNN showed up on Tuesday evening......

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by Seth1a2a

[candide]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

In their affidavit they claim 'widespread voter fraud in Michigan', because they found townships and counties where the number of votes exceeded the number of registered voters.  There's just one problem: their 'researchers' mistook MN as the abbreviation for Michigan, when it's Minnesota. Michigan is MI.

No problem! In the Trumpers' alternate universe it doesn't matter! ????

Edited November 20, 2020 by candide

[DB58]

18 hours ago, robblok said:

Before the gulf wars (the one with fabricated evidence) I always thought highly of the US and its people. Supported most of what they said thought it was a non corrupt honest country. The fabricated evidence of the gulf war damaged it. I became a sceptic. Then Trump for 4 years made it worse, and now the dirty tricks these people are trying just to not accept defeat shows me how rotten the US is. 

 

This is just shameful a president acting like this. No proof but saying there is fraud all that lying and cheating. How can the US ever regain any credibility in the world. If they work this way in their own house who knows how much they lie to their allies. Bit scary. 

I don’t disagree with your post; but the corruption behind this is orchestrated by a small number of power mongers. These self serving politicians use propaganda, conspiracy theories to amass millions of fools to support them. Fools are not all corrupt, they’re are just fools. Hopefully, they will wake up and see the sham for what it is. This isn’t the first time and I am certain not the last that this has happened to a nation. This is sad and dangerous times for us Americans.

[bendejo]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

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This is in the affidavit giuliani and powell filed. All of these townships are rural townships in Minnesota. Most went for 45.

[...]

 

As I've been saying all along yes, there will be (is!) voter fraud in this election just like DT said, and he knows it to be true because him and his cabal are the ones doing it.

 

Lindsey Graham could end up living out his days in prison.  He'll be the second-most popular prison wife in the US, after the tiger guy.

 

 

[joecoolfrog]

20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Look forward to 4 years of the same sort of attacks on Biden as Trump suffered. The Dems and CNN opened the door to it, IMO, and the GOP will relish payback for every misstep that Biden makes, IMO.

If Biden acts like Trump has then he would deserve flak. You acolytes try and pretend that Trump has not warranted criticism , it's an utterly ridiculous position to take , be honest with yourselves.

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

 

As I've been saying all along yes, there will be (is!) voter fraud in this election just like DT said, and he knows it to be true because him and his cabal are the ones doing it.

 

Lindsey Graham could end up living out his days in prison.  He'll be the second-most popular prison wife in the US, after the tiger guy.

 

 

Biden is not Trump , he will act for the greater good , so many that deserve punishment will likely get away with being slime bags.

Trump sadly will also probably escape jail , but the state and civil persecution will finish him , he will end up a big loser !

[polpott]

2 hours ago, DB58 said:

I don’t disagree with your post; but the corruption behind this is orchestrated by a small number of power mongers. These self serving politicians use propaganda, conspiracy theories to amass millions of fools to support them. Fools are not all corrupt, they’re are just fools. Hopefully, they will wake up and see the sham for what it is. This isn’t the first time and I am certain not the last that this has happened to a nation. This is sad and dangerous times for us Americans.

The danger is that the whacko Trump supporters ain't going away any time soon. There will be millions of people still posting conspiracy theories about this election 20 years from now. What's next? Trump dies of natural causes and he's been murdered by the deep state? He's been seen working in a burger bar in Tampa?

 

The wound is deep and I can't see it ever healing completely. Not in our lifetimes.

 

Trump will be back in 4 years and if not Trump, one of his children. Ivanka, the first female president?

 

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by polpott

[polpott]

5 hours ago, Walker88 said:

In their affidavit they claim 'widespread voter fraud in Michigan', because they found townships and counties where the number of votes exceeded the number of registered voters.  There's just one problem: their 'researchers' mistook MN as the abbreviation for Michigan, when it's Minnesota. Michigan is MI.

That story has now gone global. Trump still making USA the laughing stock of the world. You just can't buy that kind of entertainment.

[joecoolfrog]

23 minutes ago, polpott said:

The danger is that the whacko Trump supporters ain't going away any time soon. There will be millions of people still posting conspiracy theories about this election 20 years from now. What's next? Trump dies of natural causes and he's been murdered by the deep state? He's been seen working in a burger bar in Tampa?

 

The wound is deep and I can't see it ever healing completely. Not in our lifetimes.

 

Trump will be back in 4 years and if not Trump, one of his children. Ivanka, the first female president?

 

 

I think it depends how far Trump pushes the electoral college coup , if he goes too far then a lot of Republicans will turn against him.

His infamy is sealed but yes some will continue to idolise him , just as Stalin and Hitler still have acolytes.

[polpott]

1 minute ago, joecoolfrog said:

I think it depends how far Trump pushes the electoral college coup , if he goes too far then a lot of Republicans will turn against him.

His infamy is sealed but yes some will continue to idolise him , just as Stalin and Hitler still have acolytes.

For his future rep, he needs to push it to the limit and beyond. All good for his base.

 

Remember him saying, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?", So very true. Hollywood tape, 18 women accusing him of sexual assault? No problermo. He's invincible.

[simple1]

An interesting article...

 

 in the event of a dispute where a state sends competing electors’ slates, under the 1887 Electoral Count Act, governors have the ultimate authority to certify electors, and defying the voters would be equally damaging to them. Moreover, the governors of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Nevada are Democrats.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/20/donald-trump-still-busy-trying-to-bulldoze-democracy

[Seth1a2a]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

in the event of a dispute where a state sends competing electors’ slates, under the 1887 Electoral Count Act, governors have the ultimate authority to certify electors, and defying the voters would be equally damaging to them.

 

Back in 2016 , 7 electoral votes designated to Trump or  Hillary Clinton went to someone other than their party’s candidate.   The original Electoral count Began at   Trump 306   Clinton 232

the final Electoral vote count  was  Trump 304   Clinton 227

 

Unfortunately this means that they might hope to use that example as a tit for tat tactic on a grander scale citing that the precedent was already set in a previous election.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president

In 2016, Donald J. Trump won the Electoral College with 304 votes compared to 227 votes for Hillary Clinton. Seven electors voted for someone other than their party’s candidate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited November 21, 2020 by Seth1a2a

[Jeffr2]

They're starting to eat their own. Boggles my mind how anyone could listen to these liars. Profiting off telling lies to the masses. But congrats to Tucker for calling them out. Finally.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-slams-trumps-lawyer-for-refusing-to-show-evidence-of-election-fraud-2020-11

 

Tucker Carlson calls out Trump's election lawyer for refusing to show evidence supporting the president's baseless voter-fraud claims

[Walker88]

Maybe this will be the next strategy of 45's "elite strikeforce team", which is to say simply denying some areas belong to the US.

 

Note this screen shot from Fox & hannity.

 

Oh my!

 

(For those who don't know US geography, the State of Michigan has what is called the Upper Peninsula. Fox seems to have ceded it to our northern neighbor.)

 

Truly, 45's supporters are not quite the Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight, because they clearly have their feet in the crosshairs. The problem is their feet are in their mouths and their heads are up their.....well, you know where.

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, Walker88 said:

 

 

Earlier, when 45's team first announced 'proof' of voter fraud in Georgia, they claimed the number of total votes in Georgia exceeded the population. The problem here was that they Googled "Population of Georgia", and Google returned the population numbers for the nation of Georgia, the one that borders Russia, which has 3.7 million people vs the US State of Georgia which has over 10 million.

 

 

 

 

So this elite legal team was too lazy or incompetent to use the term " Georgia USA " when they Googled it? Rudy wants $20,000 a day for his services? This gets more comical every day.

Now, if Trump's team used fact-checking, an error like that would have been caught. But fact-checking is a dirty word to them. Hoist by their own petard springs to mind.

[simple1]

43 minutes ago, Seth1a2a said:

 

Back in 2016 , 7 electoral votes designated to Trump or  Hillary Clinton went to someone other than their party’s candidate.   The original Electoral count Began at   Trump 306   Clinton 232

the final Electoral vote count  was  Trump 304   Clinton 227

 

Unfortunately this means that they might hope to use that example as a tit for tat tactic on a grander scale citing that the precedent was already set in a previous election.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president

In 2016, Donald J. Trump won the Electoral College with 304 votes compared to 227 votes for Hillary Clinton. Seven electors voted for someone other than their party’s candidate.. 

 

Thanks for the info. For those interested some more detail...

 

Though there is no Constitutional provision or federal law barring electors from voting for whom they are pledged, more than half of the states, including D.C., “bind” their electors. The rest of electors may have the legal authority to vote for whomever they want, but, as CBS News previously reported, faithless electors have never decided a presidential election.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/which-candidates-did-the-seven-faithless-electors-support-election-2016/

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Seth1a2a said:

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president

In 2016, Donald J. Trump won the Electoral College with 304 votes compared to 227 votes for Hillary Clinton. Seven electors voted for someone other than their party’s candidate.

 

Thanks for bringing this up.

 

 

[robblok]

16 hours ago, JulesMad said:

With you all the way, Rob! If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much ????

Nah the Dutch made their mistakes too Srebrenica (did not make us look very trustworthy) not that it was our fault alone.

[Mavideol]

and the blaming game keeps going on, the guy is shooting in all directions and all the bullets bounce back, now it's Pfizer, tomorrow will be Moderna and next day same same but different name... 555

 

“We had Big Pharma against us. We had the media against us. We had big tech against us. We had a lot of dishonesty against us.”  Don my dear, you can only blame yourself, nobody else but yourself

 

Trump turns on Pfizer over vaccine timing

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-turns-on-pfizer-over-vaccine-timing-214110276.html

but got sidetracked with a rant against Big Pharma, which he blamed for sabotaging his reelection campaign because his policies would hurt their business.

 

 

Edited November 21, 2020 by Mavideol

[RJRS1301]

10 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and the blaming game keeps going on, the guy is shooting in all directions and all the bullets bounce back, now it's Pfizer, tomorrow will be Moderna and next day same same but different name... 555

 

“We had Big Pharma against us. We had the media against us. We had big tech against us. We had a lot of dishonesty against us.”  Don my dear, you can only blame yourself, nobody else but yourself

 

Trump turns on Pfizer over vaccine timing

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-turns-on-pfizer-over-vaccine-timing-214110276.html

but got sidetracked with a rant against Big Pharma, which he blamed for sabotaging his reelection campaign because his policies would hurt their business.

 

 

Just a lil jab (pr””k)

Edited November 21, 2020 by RJRS1301

[xylophone]

31 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and the blaming game keeps going on, the guy is shooting in all directions and all the bullets bounce back, now it's Pfizer, tomorrow will be Moderna and next day same same but different name... 555

 

“We had Big Pharma against us. We had the media against us. We had big tech against us. We had a lot of dishonesty against us.”  Don my dear, you can only blame yourself, nobody else but yourself

 

Trump turns on Pfizer over vaccine timing

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-turns-on-pfizer-over-vaccine-timing-214110276.html

but got sidetracked with a rant against Big Pharma, which he blamed for sabotaging his reelection campaign because his policies would hurt their business.

 

 

trump is as mad as a meat axe...........someone who slowly but surely has lost his grip on reality.

 

Get the nutter out of there before he does even more harm, isn't tens of thousands of needless American deaths enough?

[polpott]

1 minute ago, xylophone said:

trump is as mad as a meat axe...........someone who slowly but surely has lost his grip on reality.

I don't think so. Everything he is currently doing is specifically to rile his base up and keep them fizzing for the next 4 years when he will return with a ready made base.

[lapamita]

I am what I am happy that trump loose Voting. I'll still believe in faire counting of votes

 but on the other hand if Corona would be not the main thing people what more think on the economy i believe Trump win by far

 another thing to point out well I thinking since last week that pfizer and moderna  release news that they get the vaccine just short time after the voting.

 we all know that's Pharmaceutical companies prefer a democratic government.( because it is in der Business favour of pharmacorps)

I think the news was holding back after the voting.

Because it News come before the voting people with focus on economy what meaning Trump would win the election by far. this is a point in disputing.

 

I like like Trump because of his stance against China. The program of the location of industries (see tsmc news  4 days ago example) Of his personality ,  the reduction of American troops and the focus on America, the leaving of the who.  and many other thing. Trump is a person doing something yes and not all is perfect especially the tax reduction for high incomers  and the banking deregulation  in my opinion

 

 

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, polpott said:

I don't think so. Everything he is currently doing is specifically to rile his base up and keep them fizzing for the next 4 years when he will return with a ready made base.

And in the meantime,  sucked them into donating to his PAC so he has money for lawyers and travel.

[Jeffr2]

4 minutes ago, lapamita said:

I am what I am happy that trump loose Voting. I'll still believe in faire counting of votes

 but on the other hand if Corona would be not the main thing people what more think on the economy i believe Trump win by far

 another thing to point out well I thinking since last week that pfizer and moderna  release news that they get the vaccine just short time after the voting.

 we all know that's Pharmaceutical companies prefer a democratic government.( because it is in der Business favour of pharmacorps)

I think the news was holding back after the voting.

Because it News come before the voting people with focus on economy what meaning Trump would win the election by far. this is a point in disputing.

 

I like like Trump because of his stance against China. The program of the location of industries (see tsmc news  4 days ago example) Of his personality ,  the reduction of American troops and the focus on America, the leaving of the who.  and many other thing. Trump is a person doing something yes and not all is perfect especially the tax reduction for high incomers  and the banking deregulation  in my opinion

 

 

An independent committee gave Pfizer the data. Then, they did a press release. Don't target Pfizer.

 

Trump’s stance against China? Ineffective tariffs? Ones paid for by consumers? Right...

 

Trump only cares about himself. 250,000 dead American's relatives will attest to this.

[RJRS1301]

23 minutes ago, polpott said:

I don't think so. Everything he is currently doing is specifically to rile his base up and keep them fizzing for the next 4 years when he will return with a ready made base.

Doubt the phoenixes can rise from the ashes. Soufflés flop and are ruined. Full of hot air and are  nothing much more 

Edited November 21, 2020 by RJRS1301

[lapamita]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

An independent committee gave Pfizer the data. Then, they did a press release. Don't target Pfizer.

 

Trump’s stance against China? Ineffective tariffs? Ones paid for by consumers? Right...

 

Trump only cares about himself. 250,000 dead American's relatives will attest to this.

The tariff was not ineffective. The final goal freedom of investment was not reached maybe because of Covid. I would go even further against China.

And what I think under biden will happen

Deal behind closed doors meaning no investigation more related to the Viruse and The Wuhan lab. Therefore America will get the deal with China. And the world would we never know what was happening and the big Shake hand. America will get the shorthand advantage and the rest of the world will pay the price of  chinese  unfair Trade Practices and business and the freedom of Investment will not happening but biden can sale it as big win. And the world will never know what was happening.

[polpott]

4 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Doubt the phoenixes can rise from the ashes. Soufflés flop and are ruined. Full of hot air and are  nothing much more 

Try telling that to Trump (and his base). As many have said, if it hadn't been for the pandemic, there's a good chance he would have won. Also, may be lining Don Jnr. up for the next shot.

[Jeffr2]

5 minutes ago, lapamita said:

The tariff was not ineffective. The final goal freedom of investment was not reached maybe because of Covid. I would go even further against China.

And what I think under biden will happen

Deal behind closed doors meaning no investigation more related to the Viruse and The Wuhan lab. Therefore America will get the deal with China. And the world would we never know what was happening and the big Shake hand. America will get the shorthand advantage and the rest of the world will pay the price of  chinese  unfair Trade Practices and business and the freedom of Investment will not happening but biden can sale it as big win. And the world will never know what was happening.

Please, no discussion of the virus coming from a Lab. Thats a terrible conspiracy theory.

 

China needs to be dealt with, but Trump went about it the wrong way. Plus, no leader in the world believes or trusts Trump. Hopefully Biden will be more effective.

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, polpott said:

Try telling that to Trump (and his base). As many have said, if it hadn't been for the pandemic, there's a good chance he would have won. Also, may be lining Don Jnr. up for the next shot.

If Don Jr. Survives his infection. Insane how many in Trump’s inner circle have gotten it. Ridiculous.