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Thailand praised for banning electronic cigarettes, protect youth becoming nicotine addicts

 

Picture: Bangkok Biz News

 

A leading anti smoking expert in Thailand has praised the Thai authorities stance on stopping the sale and distribution of electronic cigarettes.

 

Both he and a female doctor have pointed to an alarming rise in e-cigarette use among young people in the US.

 

They say there is zero evidence that smoking e-cigs makes people smoke regular cigarettes less. It is in fact causing a rise in smoking and creating huge new numbers of nicotine addicts. 

 

Thailand should press on with banning the devices to protect the health of the public, they said. 

 

Dr Rerngrudee Pathanawanich of the medical science department of Ramathibodi Hospital in Bangkok said that studies showed that there was a big rise in e-cigarette use in the States among 18-24 year olds. 

 

And 56% of these were new smokers who had never tried regular cigarettes. And use of regular cigarettes was not down at all. 

 

A majority of electronic uses are smoking both, she said, a situation that is even worse for heart and lungs.

 

She described as nonsense the idea put about by firms that e-cigarettes help you stop smoking. The reality is that they are creating new addicts especially among the young.

 

Dr Prakit Watheesathakakij, who fronts an anti smoking group, agreed saying that the vaping firms targeted the young.

 

He said the statistics from the States were alarming where more nicotine addicts were being created not less. 

 

He praised the Thai stance on banning import and distribution to stop Thailand's youth falling prey to e-cigarettes and nicotine addiction. 

 

He believes the ban should be continued. 

 

Thaivisa notes that while technically the use of e-cigarettes in the country is banned their use is relatively widespread with the devices for smoking and vaping fluid available in some markets and online. 

 

Source: Bangkok Biz News

 

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[Centrum]

Paid shills for the Thai tobacco industry. Why aren't they pushing the wonderful Thai authorities for the ban on conventional cigarettes? From a personal perspective, I started with e-cigs 2 years ago and haven't had a tobacco cigarette once in that time. Anyone who wants to kick the habit should give vaping a go.

[quake]

One more numpty.

E-cigs can help peoples addiction

 

 

Edited November 26, 2020 by quake

[PatOngo]

35 minutes ago, webfact said:

Thailand praised for banning electronic cigarettes, protect youth becoming nicotine addicts

 

Ahhhh saved! Pass me the Krong Thip! ????

 

 

 

[2long]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

It is in fact causing a rise

To state a 'fact' needs indisputable evidence and support. Do they have that?

[Flying Saucage]

I don't smoke, and I am not at all in the medical issues related to smoking. So please forgive me if my question is BS. But:

 

Isn't the main health issue of conventional cigarettes the toxic, carcinogenic smoke with it's dangerous tar, which damages the lung and causes cancer, rather than the nicotine itself?  And is not exactly this the point in which e-cigarettes are better than conventional cigarettes, providing a health benefit not only to the smoking person himself, but also to the whole society and it's health system?

Edited November 26, 2020 by Flying Saucage

[Salerno]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

They say there is zero evidence that smoking e-cigs makes people smoke regular cigarettes less. It is in fact causing a rise in smoking and creating huge new numbers of nicotine addicts. 

 

Same level of BS that you'd find on Qanon 

[paulbrow]

I contribute being able to quit smoking after 52 years to ecigs. They got me over the habit. I can't say I know what's so bad about nicotine, but getting rid of the tar and other gunk improved my health tremendously and I was able to breath again. Finally could simply stop the ecigs. Think the hassle, there is hassle associated with them, made it easier to do.

[paulbrow]

The real dangers lie with real cigarettes, but they will NEVER ban those because the government makes too much money off them!

[quake]

20 minutes ago, paulbrow said:

The real dangers lie with real cigarettes, but they will NEVER ban those because the government makes too much money off them!

Think banning cigs would be wrong.

up to people what they want to do,  have a smoke if you want. 

[RichardColeman]

Wonder what the difference is between road deaths and vapers ? Pretty sure there is a staggering difference. 

 

 

[mark131v]

Ahh a Thai praising Thailand using spurious facts and no real research, sounds about right...

[Anna Rak]

The real reason they have banned E-cigs is the Gov don't know how to tax them and they make a lot of revenue from conventional cigarettes.

 

So just more B.S. from this Junta.

[schondie]

For 36 years I stank from smoking cigarettes and moved to vaping four years ago. My health has really improved and I know exactly what's in my juice as I make it myself.

As I only smoked Apache Kretek cigs so I started out vaping 36mg juice and now I'm down to 2mg juice on the road to completely stopping.

[Surelynot]

7 minutes ago, Anna Rak said:

The real reason they have banned E-cigs is the Gov don't know how to tax them and they make a lot of revenue from conventional cigarettes.

 

So just more B.S. from this Junta.

...and I imagine the the big tobacco companies have circulated brown envelopes to ensure electronic cigarettes remain illegal.

[Moonlover]

5 hours ago, 2long said:

6 hours ago, webfact said:

It is in fact causing a rise

 

5 hours ago, 2long said:

To state a 'fact' needs indisputable evidence and support. Do they have that?

Try this for evidence:

 

https://news.usc.edu/168364/vaping-combustive-cigarettes-smoking-usc-research/#:~:text=A USC study finds that,than those who don't.&text=A new USC study finds,who never used e-cigarettes.

 

 

[2long]

4 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

Try this for evidence:

 

https://news.usc.edu/168364/vaping-combustive-cigarettes-smoking-usc-research/#:~:text=A USC study finds that,than those who don't.&text=A new USC study finds,who never used e-cigarettes.

 

 

Thanks but one source from what might be a biased author doesn't make it fact.

[Tyler Visan]

9 minutes ago, schondie said:

For 36 years I stank from smoking cigarettes and moved to vaping four years ago. My health has really improved and I know exactly what's in my juice as I make it myself.

As I only smoked Apache Kretek cigs so I started out vaping 36mg juice and now I'm down to 2mg juice on the road to completely stopping.

So come on, tell us all how to make vaping liquid, from what? Tobacco, ganja, tea leaves......

[sammieuk1]

There is no praise for Thailand at anything in the real world keep calm and carry on vaping????

[CLW]

BS government propaganda. Just because they can't make money from vapes because everything is imported.

Vaping is much more healthier than smoking. And where is the evidence that it leads to more new and young smokers?

[PETERTHEEATER]

If vaping products are banned in Thailand how do the Thai that I see surreptitiously using these devices obtain them? Answers on a postcard please to MoH.

[Moonlover]

27 minutes ago, 2long said:

Try this for evidence:

 

https://news.usc.edu/168364/vaping-combustive-cigarettes-smoking-usc-research/#:~:text=A USC study finds that,than those who don't.&text=A new USC study finds,who never used e-cigarettes.

 

27 minutes ago, 2long said:

Thanks but one source from what might be a biased author doesn't make it fact.

OK, be in denial if you wish, however even a very quick trawl on the internet will lead you to at least 10 different sites that say more or less the same thing.

 

The point I'm making is that Dr. Pathanawanich is not just spouting nonsense. There is a lot of supportive evidence out there for his argument.

[Sambotte]

I think they just copied what China does here.

 

For vaping, i had a short experience in France. For me it does not remplace tobacco (and i smoke rolling tobacco)... But it can help. Good ganja would help more ????

 

Like everything in this world, i would appreciate some tolerance, not the opposite that grow with "ban this", "ban that", "for your safety", "for your health"... always against freedom !

 

Will they start to try to ban booze permanently tomorrow ? Here i guess most people would protest hm ? ???? Too many drinkers, can not ban ????

[schondie]

1 hour ago, Tyler Visan said:

So come on, tell us all how to make vaping liquid, from what? Tobacco, ganja, tea leaves......

Vegetable Glycerin, Propylene Glycol (both sound yucky but both are used in food manufacturing), nicotine and the desired flavourings. My favourites being mango and vanilla custard.

[Traubert]

30 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

I think they just copied what China does here.

 

For vaping, i had a short experience in France. For me it does not remplace tobacco (and i smoke rolling tobacco)... But it can help. Good ganja would help more ????

 

Like everything in this world, i would appreciate some tolerance, not the opposite that grow with "ban this", "ban that", "for your safety", "for your health"... always against freedom !

 

Will they start to try to ban booze permanently tomorrow ? Here i guess most people would protest hm ? ???? Too many drinkers, can not ban ????

China hasn't banned vaping, smoking or drinking so what are you on about? The tax take on cigarettes alone pays for the PLA.

[ukrules]

The thing about those e-cigs is - you can get liquids without nicotine in them and if you didn't know then you likely wouldn't notice too much.

[Tyler Visan]

8 minutes ago, ukrules said:

The thing about those e-cigs is - you can get liquids without nicotine in them and if you didn't know then you likely wouldn't notice too much.

A bit like Heineken  0% !

[TigerandDog]

Just another law not being enforced. I even know a copper who smokes electronic ciggies.

[2long]

2 hours ago, Moonlover said:

 

OK, be in denial if you wish, however even a very quick trawl on the internet will lead you to at least 10 different sites that say more or less the same thing.

 

The point I'm making is that Dr. Pathanawanich is not just spouting nonsense. There is a lot of supportive evidence out there for his argument.

Thanks but I'm not in denial, and to be honest I don't really care who smokes, and this report is probably mostly true. I just get gnarled when people use the word 'fact'.

[Surelynot]

Just now, 2long said:

Thanks but I'm not in denial, and to be honest I don't really care who smokes, and this report is probably mostly true. I just get gnarled when people use the word 'fact'.

...and that is a fact