Barr says no sign of major U.S. vote fraud as Trump keeps up struggling legal fight

[ChouDoufu]

33 minutes ago, kwonitoy said:

Barr's just trying to polish himself up for a 2024 run for the presidents seat.

 

but hasn't he been there the past 3-1/2 years already?

[Jonnapat]

Time to stop this utter nonsense NOW.

[Jeffr2]

17 minutes ago, Jonnapat said:

Time to stop this utter nonsense NOW.

Like they are saying in Georgia.  Stop before somebody gets hurt or killed.  This is just insane.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/01/gabriel-sterling-georgia-2020-election-sot-vpx.cnn

[Eric Loh]

34 minutes ago, Jonnapat said:

Time to stop this utter nonsense NOW.

Not in Trump’s mind unfortunately. He will keep this nonsense on as long as possible so he can continue to milk his supporters for their donations. As the saying goes about fools and departed money. 

[ballpoint]

Barr steps out from behind Trump shortly before Trump steps in behind bars.

[Berkshire]

32 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Not in Trump’s mind unfortunately. He will keep this nonsense on as long as possible so he can continue to milk his supporters for their donations. As the saying goes about fools and departed money. 

The fact that Trump would gleefully fleece his own flock tells you a lot about him.  But I'm not real sympathetic to people who would allow themselves to be conned by this obvious conman.  Sort of like people who fall for a Nigerian Scam. 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

Like they are saying in Georgia.  Stop before somebody gets hurt or killed.  This is just insane.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/01/gabriel-sterling-georgia-2020-election-sot-vpx.cnn

 

From the BBC news website.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55153918

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

From the BBC news website.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55153918

 

What's wrong with Trump's supporters?  Incredibly violent.  This is sick.

 

Quote

 

He said a 20-year-old contractor in Gwinnett County for Dominion Voting Systems, which has become the subject of baseless right-wing conspiracy theories, had received death threats. The worker's family was also getting harassed, Mr Sterling added.

 

The unnamed man had been threatened with a noose and accused of treason, Mr Sterling said, after transferring a report on ballot batches to a county computer so he could read it.

 

 

[candide]

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe Barr finally realized that he wants a life after Trump.

I hope he will be prosecuted for working like a private lawyer for Trump and not in the interest of the USA.

Barr is a smart guy. I 'm sure he managed to technically respect laws and covered his ass.

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

It's clear Barr is angling to keep his job in the Biden administration.

About as much chance of that as I have of bonking Miss Universe.

[J Town]

I believe all the straws at which to grasp are now exhausted.

[Average man]

Barr did not say there was no fraud . If you are going to quote him tell the truth . 

[Berkshire]

17 minutes ago, Average man said:

Barr did not say there was no fraud . If you are going to quote him tell the truth . 

Splitting hairs, are we?  We know what Barr said.  EVERYBODY knows what Barr said.  That's why the right wing is having a meltdown right about now.  Why do you think Trump kiss-ass Lou Dobbs is losing his mind?

 

[The statement from Barr, which merely recited a simple fact, not only cut against what Trump has been saying, but also what Trump's propagandists and allies in right-wing media have been feeding their audiences. For weeks, these media personalities have strung their audiences along, suggesting that damning proof of fraud was just around the corner. Which is why the comment from Barr stung so bad.]

 

[Fox Business host Lou Dobbs, whose conspiratorial program is a favorite of the president, attacked Barr in brutal terms on his show. "For the attorney general of the United States to make that statement — he is either a liar or a fool or both," Dobbs said. Dobbs then went further, suggesting Barr was "perhaps compromised." He characterized Barr as having "appeared to join in with the radical Dems and the deep-state and the resistance."]

 

https://www.kctv5.com/bill-barr-bashed-in-right-wing-media-after-election-fraud-comments-he-is-either-a/article_c01dfe7d-098d-5040-b91c-31d2dbd893f6.html

Edited December 2, 2020 by Berkshire

[Walker88]

barr said he has seen no fraud that could affect the election result.

 

That really doesn't seem to be so hard to understand. 45 lost. Badly. The biggest loss by a republican incumbent ever.

 

The expert 45 chose to oversee the election to monitor every State plus any attempt by external bad actors to influence the election, Chris Krebs, said there was no evidence of fraud, the system worked, and the election was 'the most secure ever'.

 

Perhaps barr realized that one man, Krebs, is an expert and barr has known Krebs to be honest, and 45 is expert in next to nothing, and is known to barr as a fabricator.

Edited December 3, 2020 by onthedarkside
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[Jeffr2]

23 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

 

barr said he has seen no fraud that could affect the election result.

 

That really doesn't seem to be so hard to understand. 45 lost. Badly. The biggest loss by a republican incumbent ever.

 

The expert 45 chose to oversee the election to monitor every State plus any attempt by external bad actors to influence the election, Chris Krebs, said there was no evidence of fraud, the system worked, and the election was 'the most secure ever'.

 

Perhaps barr realized that one man, Krebs, is an expert and barr has known Krebs to be honest, and 45 is expert in next to nothing, and is known to barr as a fabricator.

Shows how some people read different conclusions into articles.  He's right, Barr didn't say there was no fraud.  Most election officials have said the same thing.

 

What he did say, like you mention, and all election officials have also said....it's not significant.  It's over, move on.

 

If you don't like this, you need a better source for your news.

[ThaiFelix]

Come on Donald, its you!!  Dont you get it??  Face the facts, youre not as good as you think you are, nor as good as you say you are.  No one likes you (except for a few die-hards who now seem to be hiding in embarrassment).  Get over it!

[heybruce]

I'll confess I'm surprised.  I thought Barr was such a sycophant fan of an imperial President he would go down with the sinking ship. 

 

Well I guess rats will be rats.  Your move Stephen Miller.

 

Edit:  I can't resist an afterthought:  Your move Melania.

Edited December 2, 2020 by heybruce

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, placeholder said:

It's clear Barr is angling to keep his job in the Biden administration.

C'mon, this is Thai Visa.  Even such an obvious attempt at sarcasm will be lost on many.

[candide]

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Splitting hairs, are we?  We know what Barr said.  EVERYBODY knows what Barr said.  That's why the right wing is having a meltdown right about now.  Why do you think Trump kiss-ass Lou Dobbs is losing his mind?

 

[The statement from Barr, which merely recited a simple fact, not only cut against what Trump has been saying, but also what Trump's propagandists and allies in right-wing media have been feeding their audiences. For weeks, these media personalities have strung their audiences along, suggesting that damning proof of fraud was just around the corner. Which is why the comment from Barr stung so bad.]

 

[Fox Business host Lou Dobbs, whose conspiratorial program is a favorite of the president, attacked Barr in brutal terms on his show. "For the attorney general of the United States to make that statement — he is either a liar or a fool or both," Dobbs said. Dobbs then went further, suggesting Barr was "perhaps compromised." He characterized Barr as having "appeared to join in with the radical Dems and the deep-state and the resistance."]

 

https://www.kctv5.com/bill-barr-bashed-in-right-wing-media-after-election-fraud-comments-he-is-either-a/article_c01dfe7d-098d-5040-b91c-31d2dbd893f6.html

The conspiracy theory has now reached stratospheric levels!

 

Let's summarise: a GOP governor and GOP counties (among others) have been conspiring with Biden and the Communist company Dominion in order to rigg election results.  And now we learn that Barr is covering them up as he is also part of the conspiracy! OMG! ????????????????????????????????

[Skeptic7]

What took sooooo long?!? Sees it's over and trying to reclaim a shred of integrity he never had. Too little too late for that IMO. 

[candide]

36 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I'll confess I'm surprised.  I thought Barr was such a sycophant fan of an imperial President he would go down with the sinking ship. 

Trump is not useful to Barr anymore. Apart from dumb supporters, no one is loyal to him.

[billd766]

23 hours ago, Average man said:

Barr did not say there was no fraud . If you are going to quote him tell the truth . 

Pedantic much?

 

I have been accused of that today by another poster. No names, no pack drill.

 

Is that better for you?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55153366

 

quote from the report on the BBC News website

 

"US Attorney General William Barr says his justice department has found no proof to back President Donald Trump's claims of fraud in the 2020 election.

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," he said."

 

If you are meaning the link that I posted earlier, try this one from the same source.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55153366

 

Alternatively here is a report from Al Jazeera 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/1/us-attorney-general-no-fraud-found-that-could-change-election

 

1 Dec 2020
US Attorney General William Barr said on Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

His comments come despite President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the election was stolen, and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

Edited December 3, 2020 by onthedarkside
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[heybruce]

35 minutes ago, candide said:

The conspiracy theory has now reached stratospheric levels!

 

Let's summarise: a GOP governor and GOP counties (among others) have been conspiring with Biden and the Communist company Dominion in order to rigg election results.  And now we learn that Barr is covering them up as he is also part of the conspiracy! OMG! ????????????????????????????????

To the truly committed (defined as those who should be committed) all evidence against their deep state beliefs is evidence that the deep state is very deep.

[Tug]

When trump is evicted from the White House will this bs become illegal he’s basically trying to overthrow our democracy as a private citizen this may be grounds for persecution 

[Bluespunk]

16 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. Attorney General William Barr said on Tuesday the Justice Department had found no evidence of widespread voter fraud in last month's election, even as President Donald Trump kept up his flailing

“Honesty and integrity are absolutely essential for success in life - all areas of life. The really good news is that anyone can develop both honesty and integrity.”
― Zig Ziglar

 

Well, nearly anyone...

Edited December 2, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Berkshire]

As predicted, Trump not happy with Khun Barr.  Also some insight into why Barr might have come clean...

 

[President Trump remained livid at Attorney General William P. Barr on Wednesday, with one senior administration official indicating there was a chance Barr could be fired]

[An associate of Barr’s, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Barr decided to speak to the AP in part because he knew questions about the election would continue well beyond his departure from the Justice Department.]

[“He has to leave, and he does not want there be questions about whether the department was sitting idly by under his watch with respect to investigating fraud,” the associate said.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-said-to-be-livid-at-barr-with-one-official-suggesting-termination-possible/ar-BB1bzPkc

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This is what swamp-draining looks like in the Trump Administration:

Trump aide banned from Justice after trying to get case info

The official serving as President Donald Trump’s eyes and ears at the Justice Department has been banned from the building after trying to pressure staffers to give up sensitive information about election fraud and other matters she could relay to the White House, three people familiar with the matter tell The Associated Press.

Heidi Stirrup, an ally of top Trump adviser Stephen Miller, was quietly installed at the Justice Department as a White House liaison a few months ago. She was told within the last two weeks to vacate the building after top Justice officials learned of her efforts to collect insider information about ongoing cases and the department’s work on election fraud, the people said.

Trump aide banned from Justice after trying to get case info - POLITICO

Edited December 3, 2020 by placeholder

[Berkshire]

Trump is going full hate on Barr.  Must be really disheartening working for Trump.  It doesn't matter what you've done for him, only what have you done for him lately.  Being "loyal" to Trump means being able to lie and lie your ass off for him.  Barr may be able to bend or distort the truth, but he can't make up lies like Rudy.  Not good enough for Trump.

 

[...Trump complained that Barr “hasn’t done anything” and that DOJ officials “haven’t looked very hard, which is a disappointment, to be honest with you.”]

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/03/trump-william-barr-fraud-claims-442641

 

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Barr to step down as attorney general

Attorney General William Barr will step down from his position in the coming days, leaving the Trump administration about a month before Joe Biden's inauguration.

President Trump announced Barr's decision on Twitter, saying that the two had a "very good" relationship and praising Barr for doing an "outstanding job." 

Barr to step down as attorney general | TheHill

 

It is to laugh.

[simple1]

On 12/4/2020 at 12:38 PM, Berkshire said:

Trump is going full hate on Barr.  Must be really disheartening working for Trump.  It doesn't matter what you've done for him, only what have you done for him lately.  Being "loyal" to Trump means being able to lie and lie your ass off for him.  Barr may be able to bend or distort the truth, but he can't make up lies like Rudy.  Not good enough for Trump.

 

[...Trump complained that Barr “hasn’t done anything” and that DOJ officials “haven’t looked very hard, which is a disappointment, to be honest with you.”]

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/03/trump-william-barr-fraud-claims-442641

 

 

Barr has resigned...

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/us/politics/william-barr-attorney-general.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201214&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta&regi_id=89135733&segment_id=46934&user_id=1fe61b5ff8415d389c86dd3545205a7e