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Iran says 'smart satellite-controlled machine gun' killed top nuclear scientist

 

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FILE PHOTO: Mourners sit next to the coffin of Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, during the burial ceremony at the shrine of Imamzadeh Saleh, in Tehran, Iran November 30, 2020. Hamed Malekpour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS

 

DUBAI (Reuters) - The killing of Iran's top nuclear scientist last month was carried out remotely with artificial intelligence and a machine gun equipped with a "satellite-controlled smart system", Tasnim news agency quoted a senior commander as saying.

 

Iran has blamed Israel for the assassination of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, who was seen by Western intelligence services as the mastermind of a covert Iranian programme to develop nuclear weapons capability. Tehran has long denied any such ambition.

 

Israel has neither confirmed nor denied responsibility for the killing, and one of its officials suggested that the Tasnim report of the tactics used was a face-saving gambit by Iran.

 

In the past, however, Israel has acknowledged pursuing covert, intelligence-gathering operations against the nuclear programme of its arch-enemy.

 

The Islamic Republic has given contradictory details of Fakhrizadeh's death in a daytime Nov. 27 ambush on his car on a highway near Tehran.

 

"No terrorists were present on the ground... Martyr Fakhrizadeh was driving when a weapon, using an advanced camera, zoomed in on him," Tasnim, a semi-official agency, quoted Ali Fadavi, the deputy commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, as saying in a ceremony on Sunday.

 

"The machine gun was placed on a pick-up truck and was controlled by a satellite."

 

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Fadavi spoke after Iranian authorities said they had found "clues about the assassins", though they have yet to announce any arrests. Shortly after Fakhrizadeh was killed, witnesses told state television that a truck had exploded before a group of gunmen opened fire on his car.

 

Last week Ali Shamkhani, Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran, said the killing was carried out with "electronic devices" with no people on the ground.

 

Experts and officials told Reuters last week Fakhrizadeh's killing exposed security gaps that suggest its security forces may have been infiltrated and that the Islamic Republic was vulnerable to further attacks.

 

"Some 13 shots were fired at martyr Fakhrizadeh with a machine gun controlled by satellite... During the operation artificial intelligence and face recognition were used," Fadavi said. "His wife, sitting 25 centimetres away from him in the same car, was not injured."

 

Yoav Galant, an Israeli security cabinet minister, said he was "not aware" of whether the remote-operated targeting technologies described in the Iranian accounts existed.

 

"What I see is a great deal of embarassment on the Iranian side," Galant, a former naval commando and deputy chief of Israel's military, told Army Radio. "It would appear that those who were responsible for his (Fakhrizadeh's) security are now coming up with reasons for not having fulfilled that mission."

 

Fakhrizadeh, identified by Israel as a prime player in what it says is a continuing Iranian quest for a nuclear weapon, was the fifth Iranian nuclear scientist killed in targeted attacks since 2010 inside Iran, and the second slaying of a high-ranking Iranian official in 2020.

 

The commander of the Revolutionary Guards’ elite Quds Force, Qassem Soleimani, was killed in a U.S. drone strike in Iraq in January. Tehran retaliated by firing missiles at U.S. military targets in Iraq.

 

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5 minutes ago, pegman said:

Seems the Israelis won't t ge happy untill Iran  supplies sophisticated missiles to Hamas and Hezbolla.  Then the crocodile tears. 

 

    Israel has being doing the utmost to stop that happening ,. trying to stop Iran from arming terror organisations 

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6 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

    Israel has being doing the utmost to stop that happening ,. trying to stop Iran from arming terror organisations 

 

The weapons embargo on Iran was lifted in October 2020 after fulfilling all nuclear deal requirements since 2015.

 

Iran is again allowed to buy and sell weapons legally under UN approval.

 

There’s no international legal framework for the use of smart satellite controlled weaponry.

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The weapons embargo on Iran was lifted in October 2020 after fulfilling all nuclear deal requirements since 2015.

 

Iran is again allowed to buy and sell weapons legally under UN approval.

 

There’s no international legal framework for the use of smart satellite controlled weaponry.

 

  Are they legally allowed to arm terror groups ?

To supply weapons to rogue organizations to attack legitimate Countries ?

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7 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

    Israel has being doing the utmost to stop that happening ,. trying to stop Iran from arming terror organisations 

N Korea is the greater threat imo I’m hoping with cooler heads running things a diplomatic solution can be found to deal with the Iranians 

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18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The machine gun was placed on a pick-up truck and was controlled by a satellite."

 

someone placed the machine gun on the pick up. Someone placed the pick up. Someone provided the gun, pick up, ammunition, camera and AI, etc... 

 

And yet..."No terrorists were present on the ground... Martyr Fakhrizadeh was driving when a weapon, using an advanced camera, zoomed in on him," 

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According to the professionals that kind of weapon doesn’t exist....yet. If it fired 13 bullets where did they all go once his head was obliterated by the first five shots? Supposedly his bodyguard threw himself in front of him and took a bullet....very hard to believe as a machine gun fires at such a high rate the bullets would all be there before you could react. A lot of holes in this story. Why not just use a drone....I doubt the Iranian air defenses are very good. If you have read anything about the Israelis they are pretty brutal and kill without compunction. But Iran has more than one enemy in the region.

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  Are they legally allowed to arm terror groups ?

To supply weapons to rogue organizations to attack legitimate Countries ?

US has been doing it for years. Russia also. They just call them "freedom fighters"

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19 minutes ago, 4reaL said:

Let's all feel bad and support a repressive nation like Iran.

 

i.e. they can go pound sand

 

Russia poisons exiles in Britain, and the west is outraged...

 

But then the U.S. drone strike assassinates an Iranian general visiting Iraq, and now Israel or someone assassinates an Iranian scientist in Iran.  And where's the comparable outrage?

 

I'm not arguing either of the latter two guys were good or innocent sorts. But AFAIK, neither the U.S. or Israel or whomever are at war with Iran. So the question needs to be asked, what's the basis for these kinds of assassinations?

 

And, what's the U.S. going to say and do the next time when some mal actor potentially pulls a similar strike against someone or something in the U.S.?  I suspect, they'll be labeled terrorists...  So what does that make those doing the other assassinations here?

 

 

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Russia poisons exiles in Britain, and the west is outraged...

 

But then the U.S. drone strike assassinates an Iranian general visiting Iraq, and now Israel or someone assassinates an Iranian scientist in Iran.  And where's the comparable outrage?

 

I'm not arguing either of the latter two guys were good or innocent sorts. But AFAIK, neither the U.S. or Israel or whomever are at war with Iran. So the question needs to be asked, what's the basis for these kinds of assassinations?

 

And, what's the U.S. going to say and do the next time when some mal actor potentially pulls a similar strike against someone or something in the U.S.?  I suspect, they'll be labeled terrorists...  So what does that make those doing the other assassinations here?

 

 

 

  No outrage , because he was one of the baddies .

Not on our side , he was one of them .

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13 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  No outrage , because he was one of the baddies .

Not on our side , he was one of them .

 

Once you open the peacetime assassination bottle and let the Genie out,  the judgment of just who the "baddies" are is inherently going to depend on who's making those judgments. And although I'm not one of them, there certainly are plenty of people, groups and nations in the world who regard the U.S. and Israel as "baddies."

 

In that regard, the U.S. begins to look a lot like poisoning Russia, poisoning North Korea and others in that regard.

 

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Once you open the peacetime assassination bottle and let the Genie out,  the judgment of just who the "baddies" are is inherently going to depend on who's making those judgments. And although I'm not one of them, there certainly are plenty of people, groups and nations in the world who regard the U.S. and Israel as "baddies."

 

In that regard, the U.S. begins to look a lot like poisoning Russia, poisoning North Korea and others in that regard.

 

 

   Yes, there are plenty of people who view the USA and Israel as the baddies and their intention is to attack and kill the enemy , even building nuclear bombs to attack their enemy and so their enemy trys to stop them building bombs and they carry this out by killing the developers or bombing the bomb making sites 

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On 12/8/2020 at 8:04 AM, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Are they legally allowed to arm terror groups ?

To supply weapons to rogue organizations to attack legitimate Countries ?

No thats reserved for usa. Saudi ring a bell?

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On 12/8/2020 at 1:16 AM, pegman said:

Seems the Israelis won't t ge happy untill Iran  supplies sophisticated missiles to Hamas and Hezbolla.  Then the crocodile tears. 

Im really surprised and disappointed you beat ezzra to to the first post.

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10 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Yes, there are plenty of people who view the USA and Israel as the baddies and their intention is to attack and kill the enemy , even building nuclear bombs to attack their enemy and so their enemy trys to stop them building bombs and they carry this out by killing the developers or bombing the bomb making sites 

Yeah because usa hasnt been the only nation to use THAT bomb.

 

The only safe nations are those that have it.

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  Selling arms is a business , selling arms to Saudi isnt done for ideological purposes , they are business deals

And why cant anyone do it. Lucky 911 wasnt dont by saudis. Oh wait.

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