States assail 'bogus' Texas bid to overturn U.S. election at Supreme Court

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, Foghorn said:

Need to stop mail in votes and vote in person only

As I recall, the states that Trump won registered no objection to mail in votes. It's only the states where Biden won that the GOP and Trump are bleating foul.

Brilliant, spread infection even further by making people attend polling booths.

Need to stop the Electoral College BS and elect the President on the popular vote. State your problem with that concept. Given your obvious bias, I'm interested in the verbal gymnastics you may perform to defend a ramshackle, outdated structure.

[J Town]

Just now, Foghorn said:

But the most unsafe for voter fraud

Back that statement up with proof. (Spoiler alert: you can't)

[alanrchase]

The embarrassment keeps piling up for Trump. In his lawyers submission for joining the Texas case, the claim is made that no candidate that won both Florida and Ohio lost the election (also tweeted out by Trump). Unfortunately Nixon lost the election in 1960 even though he won both Florida and Ohio. 

[klauskunkel]

The Republicans are just trying to make America great again..., by splitting it in 2

[J Town]

Just now, alanrchase said:

The embarrassment keeps piling up for Trump. In his lawyers submission for joining the Texas case, the claim is made that no candidate that won both Florida and Ohio lost the election (also tweeted out by Trump). Unfortunately Nixon lost the election in 1960 even though he won both Florida and Ohio. 

45 doesn't care, the money keeps pouring in from delusional supporters. THAT'S the REAL embarrassment!

[Proboscis]

4 hours ago, candide said:

This a joke. They should file a lawsuit against themselves! ????

 

"Essentially, the Texas lawsuit alleges executive officials in the four states that went for Biden improperly tweaked voting rules, thus invalidating their results. But Texas' own Republican governor did exactly the same thing, using an executive order to extend the early voting period for the 2020 election, Reuters' Brad Heath notes. The suit also alleges Pennsylvania's decision to accept late-arriving ballots "raise[s] concerns about election integrity" there, even though Kansas and Mississippi, two supporters in the case, accepted late ballots as well."

https://news.yahoo.com/17-red-states-join-texas-211617457.html

The really hilarious part is that Texas, the most pro "state's rights" of them all, is raging against the exercising of the rights of other states to run their elections the way they see fit. Texas should be careful - otherwise their ability to run their own elections the way they want to may be called into question, thereby repressing their state's rights.

[tifino]

10 minutes ago, Foghorn said:

Need to stop mail in votes and vote in person only

but surely the Voters duly completed Postal Votes are Sealed Inside an Inner envelope that secures ballots -  and that Inner Envelope has a removable Tag where a Voter Signs off? And then the Sealed envelope is Sealed within an Outer Mailing Envelope that bears No marks relating to the Senders identity... The Tag on the Inner Envelope being duly Removed from the Sealed Inner Envelope thereby ensuring the Voter cannot be individually reconciled against his Vote

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1 minute ago, tifino said:

but surely the Voters duly completed Postal Votes are Sealed Inside an Inner envelope that secures ballots -  and that Inner Envelope has a removable Tag where a Voter Signs off? And then the Sealed envelope is Sealed within an Outer Mailing Envelope that bears No marks relating to the Senders identity... The Tag on the Inner Envelope being duly Removed from the Sealed Inner Envelope thereby ensuring the Voter cannot be individually reconciled against his Vote

Thereby ensuring a voter's basic right to a secret ballot.

[kensawadee]

ALL THIS TIME...... Who is acting as president of the USA while he is 'busy' doing all this stuff???????????

[FritsSikkink]

44 minutes ago, Foghorn said:

Need to stop mail in votes and vote in person only

Sort out your Covid disaster to start with. People who are not mobile are not allowed to vote anymore?

[pmarlin]

Article isn't close to the facts on what is going on.  Proven that those sued states violated the constitution by changing rules without going to their state legislature  while other states followed the law is what this is about. it's about the rule of law and fairness and that is way 17 other states have joined in with Texas along with the state legislatures of GA and PENN . The supreme couth on this either supports the US Constitution or not. Those other states would not have joined in if they thought it was a loosing effort. 

Edited December 11, 2020 by pmarlin

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2 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

Article isn't close to the facts on what is going on.  Proven that those sued states violated the constitution by changing rules without going to their state legislature  while other states followed the law is what this is about. it's about the rule of law and fairness and that is way 17 other states have joined in with Texas along with the state legislatures of GA and PENN . The supreme couth on this either supports the US Constitution or not. Those other states would not have joined in if they thought it was a loosing effort. 

Of course they wouldn't have joined in Because political considerations would never enter into such decisions. At least not in Bizarro world.

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5 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

Article isn't close to the facts on what is going on.  Proven that those sued states violated the constitution by changing rules without going to their state legislature  while other states followed the law is what this is about. it's about the rule of law and fairness and that is way 17 other states have joined in with Texas along with the state legislatures of GA and PENN . The supreme couth on this either supports the US Constitution or not. Those other states would not have joined in if they thought it was a loosing effort. 

And it not like judges appointed by Trump have rejected claims of fraud. Oh wair a minute...

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, candide said:

This a joke. They should file a lawsuit against themselves! ????

 

"Essentially, the Texas lawsuit alleges executive officials in the four states that went for Biden improperly tweaked voting rules, thus invalidating their results. But Texas' own Republican governor did exactly the same thing, using an executive order to extend the early voting period for the 2020 election, Reuters' Brad Heath notes. The suit also alleges Pennsylvania's decision to accept late-arriving ballots "raise[s] concerns about election integrity" there, even though Kansas and Mississippi, two supporters in the case, accepted late ballots as well."

https://news.yahoo.com/17-red-states-join-texas-211617457.html

 

Not exactly the same thing apparently. Several other things. I found the filing so you can take a look for yourself if you like:

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf

[J Town]

4 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

Article isn't close to the facts on what is going on.  Proven that those sued states violated the constitution by changing rules without going to their state legislature  while other states followed the law is what this is about. it's about the rule of law and fairness and that is way 17 other states have joined in with Texas along with the state legislatures of GA and PENN . The supreme couth on this either supports the US Constitution or not. Those other states would not have joined in if they thought it was a loosing effort. 

No. Had the suits been presented before the election then they would have stood a small chance of review. Because they're being presented by angry 45 supporters after the election and only in states where 45 lost is absolutely the biggest pile of sour grapes imaginable.

[kensawadee]

3 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

Article isn't close to the facts on what is going on.  Proven that those sued states violated the constitution by changing rules without going to their state legislature  while other states followed the law is what this is about. it's about the rule of law and fairness and that is way 17 other states have joined in with Texas along with the state legislatures of GA and PENN . The supreme couth on this either supports the US Constitution or not. Those other states would not have joined in if they thought it was a loosing effort. 

Some states are so screwed up that their devil-love for Trump is blinding them..... THERE ARE 50 STATES...... don't forget...... 

Check your Percentages and Check the 'POPULAR VOTE NUMBERS'.....

[candide]

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Not exactly the same thing apparently. Several other things. I found the filing so you can take a look for yourself if you like:

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf

And what is it that you claim is not the same?

[pmarlin]

2 minutes ago, J Town said:

No. Had the suits been presented before the election then they would have stood a small chance of review. Because they're being presented by angry 45 supporters after the election and only in states where 45 lost is absolutely the biggest pile of sour grapes imaginable.

You just wring and you don't have a clue. You don't have a complaint until you have wronged  parties. where in the hell does 45 supported come from. Millions were harmed and 118 sates  are suing or supporting this on behalf of the citizens of their states..  It was files after the election. It was filed on 7 Dec and put on the docket 8 Dec   Search - Supreme Court of the United States 

[pmarlin]

14 minutes ago, kensawadee said:

Some states are so screwed up that their devil-love for Trump is blinding them..... THERE ARE 50 STATES...... don't forget...... 

Check your Percentages and Check the 'POPULAR VOTE NUMBERS'.....

Obvious massive voter fraud but then the Texas law suite isn't about that . It's about states breaking the law.

[Peterw42]

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf

 

Its interesting to note

The filing says, in big bold letters, "TEXAS" v Georgia, Pennsylvania etc.

It doesn't say Texas and 17 other states v  Georgia, Pennsylvania etc

 

17 other states have not signed the filing, 17 other states are not suing anyone.

17 other states have basically said "go ahead Texas, sounds like a great idea", and they have said it outside of court.

[J Town]

11 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

You just wring and you don't have a clue. You don't have a complaint until you have wronged  parties. where in the hell does 45 supported come from. Millions were harmed and 118 sates  are suing or supporting this on behalf of the citizens of their states..  It was files after the election. It was filed on 7 Dec and put on the docket 8 Dec   Search - Supreme Court of the United States 

No. You wrote that it was the process being questioned. If there were concerns, they should have been addressed before the election. Because the election results weren't how 45 supporters wanted, they go crying to the courts. Over 50 times the courts have told them "No" and some judges have warned about wasting their time. And Texas demanding other states run their elections how TEXAS wants? Sour grapes x 2.

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by J Town

[pmarlin]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

No. You wrote that it was the process being questioned. If there were concerns, they should have been addressed before the election. Because the election results weren't how 45 supporters wanted, they go crying to the courts. Over 50 times the courts have told them "No" and some judges have warned about wasting their time. And Texas demanding other states run their elections how TEXAS wants? Sour grapes x 2.

You just don't get it or have a reading problem.

 

 

 

[Rimmer]

An inflammatory post has been removed, along with bickering posts and links to a non-news agency social media video not allowed under forum policy.

[kensawadee]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

55-1 is winning?

 

Note the solicitor general of texas, the person who actually represents the state in such matters refused to sign the law suit.

HEY>>>>> This won't be settled today................ RELAX....... we will know the outcome soon enough........ 

[Sujo]

Scotus to trump.

 

Why did you wait so long to file the complaint. Why was this not an issue until you lost and only an issue in the states you lost.

 

Trump to scotus

 

Fake court, fake question, everyone knows it was a fake election.

 

Denied.

[RocketDog]

While the wheels fall off the voter fraud campaign from trump the wheels of corruption within his administration grind onward relentlessly. 

[RocketDog]

2 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

The Republicans are just trying to make America great again..., by splitting it in 2

I guess that's the  crux of the problem. 

It appears that there are two America's in question. 

The one I love is appalled by the heinous jackal who is currently president * of the other America. I pray he never succeeds in making that America great. 

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1 hour ago, pmarlin said:

You just wring and you don't have a clue. You don't have a complaint until you have wronged  parties. where in the hell does 45 supported come from. Millions were harmed and 118 sates  are suing or supporting this on behalf of the citizens of their states..  It was files after the election. It was filed on 7 Dec and put on the docket 8 Dec   Search - Supreme Court of the United States 

Sorry. You''re dead wrong. Texas maintains that these states altered their laws or rules in violation of their laws BEFORE the election. That's when the wrong was committed. But Texas waited until after the election to file its complaint. Courts really don't like it when plaintiffs play gotcha. Particularly with elections.

[Sujo]

To top it off biden won time magazine person of the year, beating trump.

 

twitter thumb at the ready.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, riclag said:

"Appoint presidential electors to the Electoral College and allow their state legislatures to name the electors " 

 A Democratic Process that I would love to see upheld, to preserve the republic imop!

Better still abolish the Electoral College altogether for presidential elections and then let the electorate vote and choose the next president. They can keep the Electoral College for Senators etc but let the people decide who THEY want for POTUS.