Chris.B Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) Boris Johnson today declared that a Brexit deal has been done after four years of desperate wrangling - with a furious propaganda war already underway. The PM has made history by sealing future trade terms to avert a chaotic split when the transition period ends on January 1, after Lord Frost and Michel Barnier thrashed out a 2,000-page text. Downing Street said the agreement was 'fantastic news' - with Mr Johnson now set to hold a press conference at 3pm. A senior source said: 'Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal. 'We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters. 'The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK. We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU.' No10 said the terms meant the UK will not be in the 'lunar pull of the EU'. 'We are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved,' the source said. 'It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021.' Brexit deal is DONE: Boris Johnson seals historic agreement with EU ???????????????? Edited December 24, 2020 by Chris.B 1 Link to comment
ExpatOilWorker Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Boring caved in... However, the UK looks to have given ground on fishing rights, and secured little succour for the services sector. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post bartender100 Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 As a hard Brexiteer, who would have been happy with no deal, on the face of it, it looks like Boris has done an amazing job. Even Farage has shown support for it https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-boris-johnson-brexit-trade-deal-b1778616.html Well done Boris for standing the ground for us 5 2 1 Link to comment
Popular Post kingofthemountain Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 Finally ! Nothing worse than staying months with the a...s between 2 chairs at least now it's clear 5 Link to comment
Popular Post baansgr Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Boring caved in... However, the UK looks to have given ground on fishing rights, and secured little succour for the services sector. Even a staunch brexiteer wouldn't expect EU fishermen to loose everything overnight. It's a win win for both parties. Gives the Brits time to build their fishing fleet whilst EU scale down..let's not forget..Fishermen were compensated back in the 70s, only fair EU are given time to adjust. 5 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Surelynot Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, bartender100 said: As a hard Brexiteer, who would have been happy with no deal, on the face of it, it looks like Boris has done an amazing job. Even Farage has shown support for it https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-boris-johnson-brexit-trade-deal-b1778616.html Well done Boris for standing the ground for us The deal will make our country poorer and weaker, strangle businesses with red tape, put some sectors at existential risk reduce the opportunities of our young people, and leave us forever haggling over the huge areas of our economic arrangements that are not covered. Edited December 24, 2020 by Surelynot 1 1 2 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Hi from France Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 Well the good news is Boris sold out Scottish fishing quotas to limit the impact of Brexit on the English automotive industry. 1 5 Link to comment
Popular Post Surelynot Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 Just now, Hi from France said: Well the good news is Boris sold out Scottish fishing quotas to limit the impact of Brexit on the English automotive industry. ...and Scotland's seed potatoes.......the chips are down for them. 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Meat Pie 47 Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 Link to comment
Popular Post bartender100 Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 Got a feeling the remainers are going to be well annoyed that the majority of leavers are very happy with the deal 2 1 Link to comment
darksidedog Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 At this point I really don't care that much if it turns out well or not.There is a deal in place, which will be a hell of a lot better than there not being one in a few days. We have made our bed and now must find out if it is comfortable and worth the trouble. Or if the salesman lied to us. Pound and Euro should rise (both up today already about 2.5% before the announcement), which is good for us Expats. Time will tell who did better out of the whole disaster. Most happy that it is finally actually done though TBH. 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Surelynot said: The deal will make our country poorer and weaker, strangle businesses with red tape, put some sectors at existential risk reduce the opportunities of our young people, and leave us forever haggling over the huge areas of our economic arrangements that are not covered. Well the pound will get more baht at the moment so some here on TV will be more happy. ???? 4 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Chris.B Posted December 24, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said: You left out the sour grapes... 1 8 Link to comment
Muzzique Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Surelynot said: The deal will make our country poorer and weaker, strangle businesses with red tape, put some sectors at existential risk reduce the opportunities of our young people, and leave us forever haggling over the huge areas of our economic arrangements that are not covered. So what's new? 2 Link to comment
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Surelynot said: The deal will make our country poorer and weaker, strangle businesses with red tape, put some sectors at existential risk reduce the opportunities of our young people, and leave us forever haggling over the huge areas of our economic arrangements that are not covered. Where are copy/pasting this defeatist rubbish from? You've used it in two threads at least already ????♂️ Edit: Ahhh, I found it. Alastair Campbell. Good neutral source then ???? Edited December 24, 2020 by CG1 Blue 1 3 Link to comment
Susco Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Well the pound will get more baht at the moment so some here on TV will be more happy. ???? To sum it up, many of the Brexiteers will not be forced to return to their country. Link to comment
GrandPapillon Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Boring caved in... However, the UK looks to have given ground on fishing rights, and secured little succour for the services sector. Boris did the ultimate sacrifice to save his country, by surrendering, and we should all thank him for it. We won, the EU won !!! ???? 1 2 Link to comment
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said: Boris did the ultimate sacrifice to save his country, by surrendering, and we should all thank him for it. We won, the EU won !!! ???? Now picturing you in a straight jacket rocking back and forth on your chair... 8 Link to comment
Popular Post samsensam Posted December 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Boring caved in... However, the UK looks to have given ground on fishing rights, and secured little succour for the services sector. er, yea... and the eu gave ground as well, its called negotiation and compromise, that's how these thing work. duh. 4 Link to comment
vinny41 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said: Boris did the ultimate sacrifice to save his country, by surrendering, and we should all thank him for it. We won, the EU won !!! ???? The Irish ( EU country don't agree with you) Irish fishing industry will be disappointed by Brexit deal, Taoiseach says https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-fishing-industry-will-be-disappointed-by-brexit-deal-taoiseach-says-1.4445321?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fireland%2Firish-news%2Firish-fishing-industry-will-be-disappointed-by-brexit-deal-taoiseach-says-1.4445321 Link to comment
Chivas Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, bartender100 said: As a hard Brexiteer, who would have been happy with no deal, on the face of it, it looks like Boris has done an amazing job. Even Farage has shown support for it https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-boris-johnson-brexit-trade-deal-b1778616.html Well done Boris for standing the ground for us You gotta be on a wind up !! Wait till they start dissecting this trade deal on Boxing day.....the knives are are already out for the buffoon Johnson 1 1 Link to comment
Chris.B Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Chivas said: You gotta be on a wind up !! Wait till they start dissecting this trade deal on Boxing day.....the knives are are already out for the buffoon Johnson Whoa, the sour grapes are out tonight. 1 Link to comment
lanng khao Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Hi from France said: Well the good news is Boris sold out Scottish fishing quotas to limit the impact of Brexit on the English automotive industry. That's Pollack's... Link to comment
CorpusChristie Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, GrandPapillon said: Boris did the ultimate sacrifice to save his country, by surrendering, and we should all thank him for it. We won, the EU won !!! ???? Yeah...............Congratulations ???? 1 Link to comment
Hi from France Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, vinny41 said: The Irish ( EU country don't agree with you) Irish fishing industry will be disappointed by Brexit deal, Taoiseach says https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-fishing-industry-will-be-disappointed-by-brexit-deal-taoiseach-says-1.4445321?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fireland%2Firish-news%2Firish-fishing-industry-will-be-disappointed-by-brexit-deal-taoiseach-says-1.4445321 There's no good Brexit for Ireland, countries closer to the UK are the hardest hit. Now, Dublin got his share of the London banks and other financial services. And there's no way Ireland blocks the deal. Link to comment
Hi from France Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) I'm surprised, the Brits lost the single energy market? So why did the Brits loose 75% of fishing in their EEZ for? . Edited December 24, 2020 by Hi from France Link to comment
KhaoNiaw Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) The UK decided not to continue in Erasmus. That's a shame. Politically, I don't mind Brexit. On the economics, I think it's crazy not to be part of the EEA. At a personal level, it's a shame that my kids now can't go to universities in Europe without paying fees. What happened to EHIC? Has that also gone? Edited December 24, 2020 by KhaoNiaw 1 Link to comment
baansgr Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hi from France said: and the UK lost Euratom That's a plus..not a lose Link to comment
Hi from France Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said: The UK decided not to continue in Erasmus. That's a shame. Politically, I don't mind Brexit. On the economics, I think it's crazy not to be part of the EEA. At a personal level, it's a shame that my kids now can't go to universities in Europe without paying fees. What happened to EHIC? Has that also gone? this is huge loss and for British universities as well. I was an Erasmus student! now the UK was less and less attractive because of sky-high fees of £9000/year and more, even for British students 1 Link to comment
Hi from France Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, baansgr said: That's a plus..not a lose have you got any competence on the matter? Link to comment
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