ThailandRyan Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 48 minutes ago, stevenl said: Maybe. But 81 is far less than I expected, so if this holds it is not too bad at all. They only reported 67 yesterday, which was only Thai numbers and buried the over 1000 new cases of migrants at the bottom. They have been separating out the numbers and not truly reporting them as one total. Who knows how many migrants tested positive today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said: Better look again, it says nothing about the others being Migrants. Yes it does. Total 81. It breaks it down into 9 from ASQ Hotels 37 From local transmission 35 from migrants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeall Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Chivas said: Out of control now Expect complete lockdown by month end across the Country Will it stop those stupid load bikes going up and down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, smutcakes said: Yes it does. Total 81. It breaks it down into 9 from ASQ Hotels 37 From local transmission 35 from migrants Just saw the update that shows what your saying. Prior to 1pm they did not elaborate on those migrant workers, but then there are probably numbers they have not reported yet as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreverlomsak Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Virt said: I don't think so. Numbers of positives way to low to justify a nationwide lockdown. The PM has stated there will be no national lockdown, as I implied elsewhere there will be 76 provincial lockdowns instead, then the PM can stand up and say a national lockdown was not necessary but local lockdowns were as judged by the local governors. Not his fault. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said: Covid-19 Infected Situation Reports (Thailand) (moph.go.th) As easy done as asked for That map and the figures related to it don't appear to be up to date...nor does the map itself actually show Samut Sakhon as being RED. The RED provinces on that map in the central area are shown as BKK, Samuk Prakan and Chonburi. Samut Sakhon is shown there as WHITE. Edited December 25, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 The BKK Post today is saying: 8,810 people tested in Samut Sakhon. 1,308 (15%) were positive. Of those, about 500 were admitted to hospitals. The others quarantined only. Of the 81 new cases the government officially announced, the breakdown the Post has is: 37 local infections, 35 migrant workers and nine quarantined arrivals. And at least 26 of the 37 local infections have been linked to the Samut Sakhon outbreak. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 One of the more direct references to the fact that the govt. simply isn't reporting most of the CV cases from Samut Sakhon thus far, as per Khaosod English on Wednesday: https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/12/23/govt-virus-tally-now-excludes-figures-from-samut-sakhon/ Gov’t Virus Tally Now Excludes Figures From Samut Sakhon "Center spokesman Taweesin Visanuyothin did not say why the latest update from the province was excluded in the briefing, though he said it will be reported at a later time. “We’re not going to report the number of cases we found during active case-finding operations among the migrant workers. It now stands at zero at the moment,” Taweesin said. “There are a number of reasons we have to discuss further.” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunFred Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 If they can keep the CORONA virus rolling, they can justify nearly any violation of human rights. A boon for the government. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, bermondburi said: And no news of any more migrants testing positive in SS either. About half of that 81 are migrant workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, dcnx said: 81 that they found. Those who haven’t been found are still out there spreading if. Those 81 who have been found have already spread it. 81 found means several hundred actual infections, if not into the 1000s. There is data on this where a certain amount of infections are expected per every 1 that’s found. Show that data please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) I think even this government is hesitant to order a Nationwide Lockdown. Few places in the world that had multiple lockdowns have been “able to contain” the virus. I was wondering how do you contain a virus? The common cold is a virus and it has never been contained and certainly Influenza comes around every year and kills. The only truly successful countries to actually contain in some ways have been Taiwan and New Zealand. Both countries are island nations and do not have land borders. One can only assess based upon the published numbers(if you believe them or not) and the current numbers do not support a nationwide lockdown. The economy is on life support and a nationwide lockdown even for a month could be the death blow. When I traveled in the past I often used the McDonalds and Starbucks index to see how the local economy was. I went into a Starbucks the yesterday at 1030 and I was the only customer there and it was kind of weird as I drank my green tea latte. Also, I went into a local McDonald for my annual pancakes(for some reason I like McD pancakes) and eggs and i was the only customer for 45 minutes. I have never experienced solo dining in either place. Edited December 25, 2020 by sqwakvfr Grammar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daithi85 Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Chivas said: Out of control now Expect complete lockdown by month end across the Country Ohhh stop with the doom and gloom... I bet your Christmas day will be fun. Not.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 3 hours ago, 4reaL said: It will be exponentially spreading now if the incubation period really is 10 to 14 days from the initial cases in Mae Sai and Maha Chai. It's not, it would be rare for someone to 'incubate' it for that long, very rare. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, dcnx said: I saw one piece of data where they suggest that for every 1 found infection there are 10 others. That's not data, that's pure, unscientific speculation by whoever 'they' are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: I went into a Starbucks the yesterday at 1030 and I was the only customer there and it was kind of weird as I drank my green tea latte. Also, I went into a local McDonald for my annual pancakes(for some reason I like McD pancakes) and eggs and i was the only customer for 45 minutes. I have never experienced solo dining in either place. There must be simply awesome bandwidth on their free wi-fi these days, no? Edited December 25, 2020 by NanLaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 5 hours ago, bermondburi said: Messes up their position in the league table. What a bummer - new face strategy needed...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The RED provinces on that map in the central area are shown as BKK, Samuk Prakan and Chonburi. Samut Sakhon is shown there as WHITE. That's why I was asking is there somewhere to see up to date Zoning info, as what the local schools and the local tambon authorities are spreading is different to what I understand to be the situation, and also what I see with my own eyes, e.g. schools have stated that an annual market / fair (26th to 2nd) is cancelled but the stall holders are still arriving and setting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Good news...the number of daily positive cases continues to decline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Good news...the number of daily positive cases continues to decline. That is what they wish you to believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nout Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Chivas said: Out of control now Expect complete lockdown by month end across the Country What do you mean by a complete lockdown? Were you here for the last one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Susco Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 53 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Good news...the number of daily positive cases continues to decline. And there was me thinking that 81 was an increase over the 67 reported yesterday 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Susco said: And there was me thinking that 81 was an increase over the 67 reported yesterday Maybe I should have said the number of new infections continues to be low...and isn't increasing exponentially ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder26 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 9 hours ago, foreverlomsak said: The PM has stated there will be no national lockdown, as I implied elsewhere there will be 76 provincial lockdowns instead, then the PM can stand up and say a national lockdown was not necessary but local lockdowns were as judged by the local governors. Not his fault. Spot on. That's where it is heading. There are more and more restrictions issued everyday by various provinces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiujunn Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 8 hours ago, sqwakvfr said: The only truly successful countries to actually contain in some ways have been Taiwan and New Zealand Vietnam. Actually had a second wave and was able to contain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder26 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Good news...the number of daily positive cases continues to decline. It declined from yesterday only! I bet it will go up tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Those posting above here do realize, I hope, that the government simply isn't reporting masses of cases in Samut Sakhon as yet in their daily briefings... for reasons that remain as yet unexplained... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Those posting above here do realize, I hope, that the government simply isn't reporting masses of cases in Samut Sakhon as yet in their daily briefings... for reasons that remain as yet unexplained... Because they are afraid to panic the rest of the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Those posting above here do realize, I hope, that the government simply isn't reporting masses of cases in Samut Sakhon as yet in their daily briefings... for reasons that remain as yet unexplained... How do you know they are not reporting all cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DavisH said: How do you know they are not reporting all cases? Because it's been stated in the news. See below: "Since Sunday, more than 1,000 migrant workers have tested positive for the virus, along with Thais working or living near the seafood market, which supplies much of the country. ... Health authorities on Thursday confirmed 67 new cases, bringing the nation’s total to 5,829 including 60 deaths. New cases among migrant workers were not reported on Wednesday and Thursday, with the explanation that they were being rechecked." https://apnews.com/article/international-news-public-health-myanmar-coronavirus-pandemic-prayuth-chan-ocha-a9d6b62d04316ae59a459380a934b245 Kinda hard to have 1200+ people test positive, only be reporting 60-80 new cases per day. Edited December 25, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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