Why the winners in Georgia runoffs might not be known for days

[Berkshire]

While I'd prefer the Dems to win--and especially since the Rep candidates appear to be real slimeballs--it wouldn't bother me if the Rep's won.  It would actually help Biden to keep the extreme left wing of the party in check.  For example, I don't agree that student loans should be forgiven.  Those of us responsible folks managed to pay off our loans and it would be a slap in the face to let others get off scot free.  Besides, where would the money come from?  That's just one issue that I don't agree with the Bernie wing. 

 

But the most important part is done....that is, getting Trump the freak out of the WH.   

[welovesundaysatspace]

With c. 90% of votes counted and the remaining votes coming from Democratic strongholds, the NYT times forecasts a “pretty likely” (95%) Warnock win and a “quite likely” (91%) Ossoff win. Let’s hope they’re right: 
 

“Republicans continue to hold a narrow lead in the tabulated vote, but Democrats are increasingly clear favorites to win both races for Senate. Over the last hour, Republicans have failed to outperform expectations in relatively Republican areas, leaving them at the mercy of the overwhelmingly Democratic votes that remain in the Atlanta area. To prevail, the Republicans will have to outperform our expectations in these remaining votes by a significant margin, and in the case of Kelly Loeffler an implausible margin. They haven't outperformed our expectations much of anywhere tonight.”

 

Meanwhile, Trump and his lot have started their predictable attempts to discredit and steal this race as well. Sore losers those ... wannabe totalitarians. 
 

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by onthedarkside
name calling reference removed

[Jeffr2]

Looking very good!!!!!!!!!

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/results-georgia-runoffs.html

[J Town]

The REAL people to look to are oddsmakers, and they ALL predict both Democrats to win.

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, J Town said:

The REAL people to look to are oddsmakers, and they ALL predict both Democrats to win.

Its extremely close. Only a few votes difference for trump to decide if its fair or a fraud.

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Its extremely close. Only a few votes difference for trump to decide if its fair or a fraud.

He’s already starting to write down how many votes they need to find him: 354. No, now it’s 576. Wait, I need 871. 
 

Pathetic loser. 

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

He’s already starting to write down how many votes they need to find him: 354. No, now it’s 576. Wait, I need 871. 
 

Pathetic loser. 

Post of the day!!!! LOL

[Sujo]

If the dems are in front at the end of the night i will wait for trump to tweet saying stop the count. I wont wait long though.

[shdmn]

Looks like Dems won at least one of them.  Keeping my fingers crossed on the other one.

 

17 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

He’s already starting to write down how many votes they need to find him: 354. No, now it’s 576. Wait, I need 871. 
 

Pathetic loser. 

Please stop insulting pathetic losers.  They don't want to be associated with him either. ????  

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Looks like Dems won at least one of them.  Keeping my fingers crossed on the other one.

 

Please stop insulting pathetic losers.  They don't want to be associated with him either. ????  

A huge bunch of early mail in votes haven't been counted yet.  Some 25k.  Most will vote for the dems....

 

Doubt we can call this for a day or so.  But at least one gain is great!! 2 would be incredible.

[welovesundaysatspace]

So Loeffler said she isn’t conceding, wants every legal vote to be counted, and that there’s a path to victory. Where have we heard that before? 
 

The NYT says there are 93,000 votes left to count and that Warnock's and Ossoff's estimated shares of those uncounted votes will be 77%. That'd give them each a net gain of 71,000 votes. If true, Ossoff would win by 69,000 votes (1.5%) and Warnock by 106,000 votes (2.5%), both well above the automatic recount margin (0.5%). 
 

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by welovesundaysatspace

[Jeffr2]

Warnock just did a speech saying he won!  WooHoo!!!

 

One more to go....

[Jeffr2]

a few hours ago, Perdue was up by 100,000.  Now?  A bit over 1,000....just like the Biden election.

[mtraveler]

8 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

So Loeffler said she isn’t conceding, wants every legal vote to be counted, and that there’s a path to victory. Where have we heard that before? 
 

The NYT says there are 93,000 votes left to count and that Warnock's and Ossoff's estimated shares of those uncounted votes will be 77%. That'd give them each a net gain of 71,000 votes. If true, Ossoff would win by 69,000 votes (1.5%) and Warnock by 106,000 votes (2.5%), both well above the automatic recount margin (0.5%). 
 

 

Mathematically, if Warnock and Ossoff get 77% of the vote, then their respective opponents will get 23%, meaning the net gain would be about 50,000 votes (54% margin).  I truly believe that both will win, based on where the remaining votes lie, but I think it will be less than 77%.

 

I'm just a bit disappointed that Ossoff isn't going to win by just 11,780 votes!

[Sujo]

Trump just had an air swing on the first tee.

[cmarshall]

So, the Dems get the Senate after all!  This is very good news.  Now the Dems have to deliver and promptly, especially for their black voters, or else those voters could abandon them in two years.  Biden should hit the ground like FDR in 1933 and crank out legislation as fast as they can.  Use the Defense Production Act to compel US companies to produce PPE and vaccines, call out the national guard to implement vaccinations, repair the CDC and Depts. of Ed and Justice, reform SS, implement national controls on police violence and accountability for it, statehood for D.C. and Puerto Rico, regulate the Supreme Court and reduce their appellate jurisdiction as well as add justices, etc.

 

And a Commission on Presidential Crimes.

 

And recall Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn to active duty and then court martial him for violating his oath to uphold the Constitution.

Edited January 6, 2021 by cmarshall

[J Town]

Just now, Sujo said:

Trump just had an air swing on the first tee.

Literally or figuratively?

[Jingthing]

Unfortunately its premature to call this for Ossoff. 

If he does win he will be the youngest current senator which ironically is how ancient Biden got started.

If he loses his political career should be over because that would mean he lost two of the most expensive non presidential elections in world history. First for the house and then for senate.

Maybe indelicate to mention this but being Jewish is a political liability in Georgia even among many black voters. 

But of course it would be fantastic if he prevails.

Edited January 6, 2021 by Jingthing

[Sujo]

28 minutes ago, J Town said:

Literally or figuratively?

Figuratively. Just after he choked on his trump steak and spat out his trump vodka he ordered a lawyer from trump university to sue Georgia for counting the votes correctly.

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Unfortunately its premature to call this for Ossoff. 

If he does win he will be the youngest current senator which ironically is how ancient Biden got started.

If he loses his political career should be over because that would mean he lost two of the most expensive non presidential elections in world history. First for congress and then for senate.

Maybe indelicate to mention this but being Jewish is a political liability in Georgia even among many black voters. 

But if course it would be fantastic if he prevails.

Black and Jewish senators from Georgia.

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Black and Jewish senators from Georgia.

And if it happens, a senate run by a half black, half Indian WOMAN!!!  Love it...

[J Town]

One down . . . one to go.

 

Warnock gave a speech accepting the election some time ago and MSNBC declares his victory. Ossoff also released a "I think I'm gonna win" speech and the odds are ever in his favor.

 

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by J Town
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[Jeffr2]

Ossoff now ahead by 4k.  Pretty much game over as most votes are from heavily democrat counties, that also voted for Biden.

[Sujo]

The fat lady has left the dressing room.

 

ps: i have nothing against fat ladies.

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Ossoff now ahead by 4k.  Pretty much game over as most votes are from heavily democrat counties, that also voted for Biden.

Yes its looking good but still not over. Remember the military and expat vote will be coming in for days from now and legal to count.

 

But the good news is while military leans republican expats lean democratic. So likely a wash.

 

Maybe good news for expats. We matter.

 

Also there will be a required recount. 

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Warnock called by CNN. 

 

 

https://www.ajc.com/politics/live-what-the-ajc-is-watching-during-todays-georgia-runoffs/TJFSEFBCDRCXJA4RWRIHRQKOBU/

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes its looking good but still not over. Remember the military and expat vote will be coming in for days from now and legal to count.

Im sure trump will be calling for them not to be counted. Not.

 

Trump supporters are very quiet today.

[rudi49jr]

Wonder when Trump is going to weigh in with a whole slew of deranged twitter rants that these elections were stolen? 

[Jingthing]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

Wonder when Trump is going to weigh in with a whole slew of deranged twitter rants that these elections were stolen? 

He already has!

[J Town]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Also there will be a required recount. 

 

Not in the case of Warnock, his lead is beyond the required recount percentage. Will Rep's whine about HAVING to have a recount? You can bet on it, but we know how Georgia recounts go.