shdmn Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gumballl said: Exactly! What kind of proof is needed. I have a wonderful computer and a printer, and I can easily manufacture proof that I've been vaccinated. I may even start a business. Best of luck with that. Risk prison and permaban from the country all just so you can avoid a quick jab in your arm? Sounds like a brilliant plan....???? Edited January 28, 2021 by shdmn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Gumballl said: Exactly! What kind of proof is needed. I have a wonderful computer and a printer, and I can easily manufacture proof that I've been vaccinated. I may even start a business. ..and some people still wonder why Immigration think Farangs are a bunch of conniving shisters.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 hours ago, webfact said: new campaign set to launch in 3Q2021. So, the earliest inoculated tourists can start arriving will be July 2021 (3Q) - also note below:- 8 hours ago, webfact said: have started talks with agencies in potential markets, such as China, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 hours ago, GeorgeCross said: awesome! we have a 100% effective vaccine now? damn i must have missed the news.. or are we just opening up another big can of worms?! The warm welcome will feature flame throwers. Any residual virus will be eliminated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: There are several things wrong with this plan. First, I've seen no estimates of a billion people vaccinated by June. Second, and maybe most important, vaccinated people can still be infected with the virus and spread it to others (they themselves just don't get sick with COVID-19 disease). This is particularly important to what will likely be a mostly unvaccinated Thai host population. And third, there is no proof for how long vaccinations are effective. These are just a few reasons off the top of my head and there are probably more. Yes, i agree. Until entire Thai population vaccinated can't see this going ahead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunkarl Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 They are discussing it... Same as they have been discussing shorter quarantine for many months. All they can do is talk. I'll believe it when I see it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro1Expat Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Very nice provided you have the facility to get the vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble Tumble Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, ChakaKhan said: Set up nurses at all 7-11s in LOS and it will be done in record time! First 100 get a Doraemon sticker...vaccine can also be paid for with stamp books from 7-11 purchases ???? that made me chuckle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Cake Monster said: No Government in the World is going to allow its Nationals to travel to any Country which does not have a comprehensive, sustained and proven vaccination program in place. Whether they have been Vaccinated against Covid or not. Mainly because upon return to their Homelands, they may well be carriers of the Virus back from the Vacation Country. And Thailand is way behind the curve on any Vaccination program Well actually, some governments in Europe have already removed the quarantine requirements upon return for vaccinated people, regardless of where they come back from, and more will follow shortly. Edited January 28, 2021 by lkv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, lkv said: Well actually, some governments in Europe have already removed the quarantine requirements upon return for vaccinated people, regardless of where they come back from, and more will follow shortly. source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lkv Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, oldhippy said: source ? https://www.traveller.com.au/covid19-vaccines-and-travel-the-countries-opening-borders-to-vaccinated-tourists-h1tlgv 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, lkv said: https://www.traveller.com.au/covid19-vaccines-and-travel-the-countries-opening-borders-to-vaccinated-tourists-h1tlgv Thank you for the link. I guess it has to start somewhere - so why not in the Seychelles...... We have a long way to go though, and until a large % will be vaccinated, airlines are not going to fly half empty airplanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albaby Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 hours ago, ezzra said: Good thinking Thailand, as i will be vaccinated in Oz soon and coming not have to dread the thoughts of being cooped up in a Thai hotel eating fried rice and chicken 3 times a day, being tested and prodded and pay good money on top it, so again, the sooner the better... Optimistic old mate. Still looks like months to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 hours ago, wordchild said: one big issue here is , what about kids? they cant get vaccinated. ie Will families with kids still have to quarantine? Including those of us who live in Thailand and may wish to travel abroad and then return to Thailand? Or will it be sufficient just for the adult members of the family to have been vaccinated? No families will come unless this is resolved. Single adult males only. Just like the old days! Certainly there will be followup trials for children since recent variants are infecting them at a higher rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guderian Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 There's a decent article in today's Times on the theme of if and when large-scale foreign tourism might resume. For those hoping for a rapid return of normality, like TAT, it's not encouraging reading. The Times has a paywall, so I downloaded the relevant page as a PDF file and attached it here. The_Times(2021-01-28)_page25.pdf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placnx Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: I wonder if all the vaccine passports and certificates will be registered in some central database by those who administer the vaccine and then maybe border control officials and other designated officials will have access to the database to verify anyone's vaccine status. All these countries proposing their own vaccination "passports" are just desperately flailing about. The digital WHO card is the ultimate solution, plus national vaccination databases and a mirrored database of data on the vaccines. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 hours ago, NorthernRyland said: Why do we want to vaccinate kids? They're basically immune and in fact I think COVID is less dangerous for under 18's than flu is. Regrettably kids are not immune. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 hours ago, hotchilli said: India produce around 60% of the worlds vaccines, don't know why Thailand didn't look to them a long time ago. Even India cannot produce enough vaccine for the whole world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 hours ago, DaLa said: That is what the plan should be and should be the WHO’s role. However given that agreements between countries can take years to finalise and not all countries will join, I can with almost certainty say that it will be nearly impossible to implement. Think of countries that hold databases already and the error rates, add the logistical problems of maintaining a record of even half the worlds population. WHO or certain capable countries could help countries with low digital capability, so Singapore could take care of any Asian countries that needed help, while South Africa could do the same for Sub-Saharan countries, and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Interesting opinion that he has written in regards to the future of travel. He does make some valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Problem for me is I can get the vaccination in the U.K. along with my Thai partner, we are currently stuck here, we have a 5 year old son, the vaccination hasn’t been approved for under 16s. Would be allowed to enter Thailand if he wasn’t vaccinated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
provan69 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I am from Australia, we have had no cases of the virus for a while now and my area has not had a case since the start of the pandemic. I have my girlfriend of 4 years and 4 months living in a North East town who I haven't seen for 14 months. I wish and prey that we can be together soon as we are not getting any younger and I miss her very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 For those making predictions one, one way or another, It is important to remember that the situation is fluid, and that can change , depending on vaccine availability , efficacy, and viruses mutations. Any predictions made now, are based on current information and as information changes so could predictions. As far as the quarantine is concerned, it does not have to be all or nothing, based on conditions, before it is eliminated , it could be reduced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Why? "WHO officials warned there is no guarantee that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent people from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and transmitting it to other people." World Health Organization. Coronavirus disease (COVID-2019) Press Briefings: Dec. 28, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, connda said: Why? "WHO officials warned there is no guarantee that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent people from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and transmitting it to other people." World Health Organization. Coronavirus disease (COVID-2019) Press Briefings: Dec. 28, 2020 There is no quarantine that a piano being hoisted up a building will not fall on you and end your life in a musical cacophony yet you walk on the sidewalk every day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lkv Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, connda said: Why? Because the vaccines greatly reduce the chance of infection, and there is no such thing as reducing it to zero. This virus will be circulating for years to come and the world needs to get moving. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shdmn Posted January 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, placnx said: All these countries proposing their own vaccination "passports" are just desperately flailing about. The digital WHO card is the ultimate solution, plus national vaccination databases and a mirrored database of data on the vaccines. IATA is also pushing an electronic solution. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, lkv said: Because the vaccines greatly reduce the chance of infection, and there is no such thing as reducing it to zero. This virus will be circulating for years to come and the world needs to get moving. No different from the flu which will always be with us vaccines have to be altered year on year to combat new strains. We might even need an annual Covid19 jab possibly possibly combined with the flu jab. The idea of waiting for Covid to be eradicated isn’t going to happen, there now has to plans put in place with out quarantine or tourism will disappear globally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, shdmn said: IATA is also pushing an electronic solution. Absolutely right. all that the "Vaccine passport" is , it's a certificate that everyone involved can trust. Any trusted organization that can collect that information from the pertinent agencies in each country in the world and provide it in a centralized database. Otherwise how is Thailand to know that a receipt from youbetistan is real. IATA is a trusted organization, with recourses in every country and an interest in making travel easier and safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDinosaw Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 18 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: Perhaps someone should teach them what tautology means. It's not tautological - it's to welcome back those people who have already been to Thailand twice before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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