Thailand reports another fall in new COVID-19 infections

 

 

Thailand reported 490 new coronavirus cases on Saturday.

 

Nearly all of the new cases were again discovered during testing of migrant workers at quarantine facilities and hospitals in Samut Sakhon.

 

Of the new cases, 412 were discovered in Samut Sakhon via active contact tracing, while 67  were so-called ‘walk-ins’ discovered from people reporting to hospital. 11 cases were imported from people entering quarantine.

 

Thailand’s Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) also reported that 943 people were discharged from hospital having made a full recovery.

 

6,781 people remain in hospital or held in a migrant worker quarantine centre. No new deaths were  reported

Saturday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 23,135, with 79 deaths. 
 

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 Instant success from the low testing of 2000 tests per day and the incarceration of migrants which  A Nut In says are to blame for the second wave.

It's working!  

 

... for now.  Let's see what B.1.1.7 does when it gets here.

2 minutes ago, rabas said:

It's working!  

 

... for now.  Let's see what B.1.1.7 does when it gets here.

 

 

Well, that UK variant won't hit the streets here if the government maintain their quarantine programme.

36 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

while 67  were so-called ‘walk-ins’ discovered from people reporting to hospital.

That to me is just more evidence it is widely in the population and just not been tested for 

8 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Well, that UK variant won't hit the streets here if the government maintain their quarantine programme.

The same quarantine program that was in place when the second wave happened? People sneaking over the border can easily bring in the UK variant or others.

41 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

67  were so-called ‘walk-ins’ discovered from people reporting to hospital.

Which hospitals and where, or was it only in Samut Sakhon

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Which hospitals and where, or was it only in Samut Sakhon

Per Richard Barrow:

 

Bangkok 23
Tak 2
Songkhram 1
Phetchaburi 1
Samut Sakhon 40

 

 

7 minutes ago, Ohyesuare said:

The same quarantine program that was in place when the second wave happened? People sneaking over the border can easily bring in the UK variant or others.

 

 

Not so far..........

12 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

That to me is just more evidence it is widely in the population and just not been tested for 

Of further interest to me is WHERE were these people located ..............!!!

3 minutes ago, KhunG said:

Per Richard Barrow:

 

Bangkok 23
Tak 2
Songkhram 1
Phetchaburi 1
Samut Sakhon 40

 

 

So if they have that many walk ins in Bangkok, why are they not testing proactively here.  Would be nice to have some idea of where and when these folks were infected.  It might just keep the misses and I from going to certain places.  We walked 12km yesterday evening and visited many locales from Sathon to Sukhumvit and a few malls and side sois getting fruit from some of the vendors on the street.

12 minutes ago, Ohyesuare said:

The same quarantine program that was in place when the second wave happened? People sneaking over the border can easily bring in the UK variant or others.

 

It is all about probabilities.  Nothing can stop everything.  But the more you do, the less there is.

 

And they did not do enough on the Burmese border before the second wave.

 

12 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So if they have that many walk ins in Bangkok, why are they not testing proactively here.  Would be nice to have some idea of where and when these folks were infected.  It might just keep the misses and I from going to certain places.  We walked 12km yesterday evening and visited many locales from Sathon to Sukhumvit and a few malls and side sois getting fruit from some of the vendors on the street.

23 out of 10 million

18 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So if they have that many walk ins in Bangkok, why are they not testing proactively here.  Would be nice to have some idea of where and when these folks were infected.  It might just keep the misses and I from going to certain places.  We walked 12km yesterday evening and visited many locales from Sathon to Sukhumvit and a few malls and side sois getting fruit from some of the vendors on the street.

 

They are testing all contacts of identified cases.

 

The rate of positivity in Bangkok is way too low to make random mass testing remotely worthwhile.

 

The population of Bangkok is 11 million. 23 cases is not at all a  lot.

13 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

23 out of 10 million

It is a constant number testing positive as a walk-in in Bangkok apparently, so what can that tell you if its ignored.  It is here, but many choose to stay in and not get treatment due to mild symptoms and it goes away?, many asymptomatic?, or maybe many more who just do not want to pay the cost of the test and then the hospital or State isolation facilities, and if they are Thai well then maybe they don't want to loose work and money.  Many scared folks.  If the testing was free, and isolation could be done outside of a facility instead of being locked in, like in Samut Sakhon, we might see either an easing of cases as treatment could be undertaken, or increased numbers.  One shall never know, as the Government is playing this very close to the vest as well as the obtaining and procurement of Vaccines.

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I've noticed there are no reports of any of the reported walk ins having infected anybody or where they may have infected or any details that might inform the public of what's actually happening or that might be of benefit to the public except how good they are at stopping the virus.

 

 

 

Thailand has excellent epidemiologists and they closely examine each identified case and trace all contacts.  Public announcements are made whenever it appears there may have been transmission at a public venue.

 

23 cases in a city of 11 million....most of the world would love to have that level of infection.  In New York City, about 5,000 new cases a day and about the same number in hospital at a given time.

If only the air pollution would kill the virus.

8 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

 

 

Thailand has excellent epidemiologists and they closely examine each identified case and trace all contacts.  Public announcements are made whenever it appears there may have been transmission at a public venue.

 

23 cases in a city of 11 million....most of the world would love to have that level of infection.  In New York City, about 5,000 new cases a day and about the same number in hospital at a given time.

Apparently it is of a major concern Sheryl as public officials are ramping up proactive screening in six districts after a large number cases have now been confirmed.  Those districts in western Bangkok they are now testing pro-actively in are the following districts (Bang Kae, Phasi Charoen, Bang Khunthian, Chom Thong, Nong Khaem and Bang Bon).  It might be connected to factories here in Bangkok but they are checking.  Phasi Charoen is getting close to the downtown Area, and near where the GF and I go on some days and really isn't that far from the Asiatique Area and the backside of the Sathon District where we live.  So it is concerning.

52 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So if they have that many walk ins in Bangkok, why are they not testing proactively here.  Would be nice to have some idea of where and when these folks were infected.  It might just keep the misses and I from going to certain places.  We walked 12km yesterday evening and visited many locales from Sathon to Sukhumvit and a few malls and side sois getting fruit from some of the vendors on the street.

You're asking for trouble going on 12km walks in the evening.

 

Be sensible.

The same day they report that the military is prepping for 100,000 field hospital beds.

 

 

I don't get the daily field hospital updates and case updates, while cases seem to be going down, field hospital beds are going up, a lot!

Just bad planning or have govt decided to wait and see what happens?

22 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Apparently it is of a major concern Sheryl as public officials are ramping up proactive screening in six districts after a large number cases have now been confirmed.  Those districts in western Bangkok they are now testing pro-actively in are the following districts (Bang Kae, Phasi Charoen, Bang Khunthian, Chom Thong, Nong Khaem and Bang Bon).  It might be connected to factories here in Bangkok but they are checking.  Phasi Charoen is getting close to the downtown Area, and near where the GF and I go on some days and really isn't that far from the Asiatique Area and the backside of the Sathon District where we live.  So it is concerning.

Looks like its going to be the next hotspot. Just published in the Nation

 

54 Covid-19 cases found in Bangkok after proactive testing in factories

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30402321?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=internal_referral

 

 

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Well, that UK variant won't hit the streets here if the government maintain their quarantine programme.

Yes, been reading up about the UK variant as found the timing interesting, here are a few facts that might cause one to think a little bit.

 

Health officials, politicians and the media around the world turned their focus on the variant right after the publication of three theoretical-modeling papers on B.1.1.7, the one originating in the U.K. None of the three papers was checked over for accuracy by objective observers – a process called ‘peer review', nonetheless, all three were portrayed as solid science. So yet again no checking allowed.

 

So who was behind this new modelling? Why our old friend Neil Ferguson, the UK government has relied on his mathematical modeling for many years, despite his work turning out to be highly inaccurate time after time. In fact this insider has rarely gotten anything right. He  also supposedly stepped down from his government-advisory role last May after being caught secretly meeting with his gik during lock downs, but was then quietly restored to positions of influence. Funny how some get a free pass while the public gets arrested.

 

In the one paper published the authors state in the last section of their paper that “It is important to remember that our maps define biochemical phenotypes of the RBD, not how these phenotypes relate to viral fitness. There are many complexities in the relationship between biochemical phenotypes of yeast-displayed RBD and viral fitness.”

Translation: Just because our experiments showed that the presence of N501Y or other changes in the RBD seems to make the RBD bind tighter to the ACE2 receptor, we don’t know whether any of these changes make the virus more transmissible. 

 

So is it more dangerous? Maybe, but no one actually knows. It is all 100% conjecture.

1 minute ago, Rancid said:

So is it more dangerous? Maybe, but no one actually knows. It is all 100% conjecture.

Similar to your whole post

Come on those cynical boys & girls .… IMHO Thailand has been doing a really good job .… I'm certainly happy to be up here in Chiangmai rather than in most other countries in the world.

 

Give the authorities some Kudos on what they have been doing.

 

 

32 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Apparently it is of a major concern Sheryl as public officials are ramping up proactive screening in six districts after a large number cases have now been confirmed.  Those districts in western Bangkok they are now testing pro-actively in are the following districts (Bang Kae, Phasi Charoen, Bang Khunthian, Chom Thong, Nong Khaem and Bang Bon).  It might be connected to factories here in Bangkok but they are checking.  Phasi Charoen is getting close to the downtown Area, and near where the GF and I go on some days and really isn't that far from the Asiatique Area and the backside of the Sathon District where we live.  So it is concerning.

 

It is connected to factories and it is at factories that they are checking.

30 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

 

 

Thailand has excellent epidemiologists and they closely examine each identified case and trace all contacts.  Public announcements are made whenever it appears there may have been transmission at a public venue.

 

23 cases in a city of 11 million....most of the world would love to have that level of infection.  In New York City, about 5,000 new cases a day and about the same number in hospital at a given time.

I'm not questioning Thailands level of expertise in the medical field but what are they doing that is so different to the rest of the world that make such a huge difference.As for the track ad tracing every case they have managed to track and trace the 4000 cases in the last week?

So a private venue would be excluded from such announcements such as shopping malls?There is absolutely no details give about these mystery transmissions other than they occurred in Bangkok,which begs the question why other countries give so much detail and perform so many tests and lockdowns if Thailand consistently shows that's completely unnecessary in order to prevent spread.What's your theory on why they don't publish testing numbers?

11 minutes ago, Rancid said:

Yes, been reading up about the UK variant as found the timing interesting, here are a few facts that might cause one to think a little bit.

 

Health officials, politicians and the media around the world turned their focus on the variant right after the publication of three theoretical-modeling papers on B.1.1.7, the one originating in the U.K. None of the three papers was checked over for accuracy by objective observers – a process called ‘peer review', nonetheless, all three were portrayed as solid science. So yet again no checking allowed.

 

So who was behind this new modelling? Why our old friend Neil Ferguson, the UK government has relied on his mathematical modeling for many years, despite his work turning out to be highly inaccurate time after time. In fact this insider has rarely gotten anything right. He  also supposedly stepped down from his government-advisory role last May after being caught secretly meeting with his gik during lock downs, but was then quietly restored to positions of influence. Funny how some get a free pass while the public gets arrested.

 

In the one paper published the authors state in the last section of their paper that “It is important to remember that our maps define biochemical phenotypes of the RBD, not how these phenotypes relate to viral fitness. There are many complexities in the relationship between biochemical phenotypes of yeast-displayed RBD and viral fitness.”

Translation: Just because our experiments showed that the presence of N501Y or other changes in the RBD seems to make the RBD bind tighter to the ACE2 receptor, we don’t know whether any of these changes make the virus more transmissible. 

 

So is it more dangerous? Maybe, but no one actually knows. It is all 100% conjecture.

Very unlikely. A virus wants to grow and infect as many people as possible not kill people. This nonsense about mutant virus strains is all scaremongering. Its the natural evolution of a virus to be more contagious! Everyday you see headlines saying that the new virus may not be affective against a new strain and then a few days later its confirmed it does. Thais are not suffering like other countries for whatever reasons and lets just be happy with that!

12 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I'm not questioning Thailands level of expertise in the medical field but what are they doing that is so different to the rest of the world that make such a huge difference.As for the track ad tracing every case they have managed to track and trace the 4000 cases in the last week?

So a private venue would be excluded from such announcements such as shopping malls?There is absolutely no details give about these mystery transmissions other than they occurred in Bangkok,which begs the question why other countries give so much detail and perform so many tests and lockdowns if Thailand consistently shows that's completely unnecessary in order to prevent spread.What's your theory on why they don't publish testing numbers?

without the system accepting Point Data

- the following sort of Report (the detailed one) can never come to fruition

  

Every single test/outbreak location needs to be Included, to get a Real result 

4 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

Very unlikely. A virus wants to grow and infect as many people as possible not kill people. This nonsense about mutant virus strains is all scaremongering. Its the natural evolution of a virus to be more contagious! Everyday you see headlines saying that the new virus may not be affective against a new strain and then a few days later its confirmed it does. Thais are not suffering like other countries for whatever reasons and lets just be happy with that!

Every year the UK health system gets to breaking point dealing with flues an common colds and it seems this year is no different except doing massive testing to see if those that died had a cold in the previous month.I still haven't seen any bodies lining the streets and haven't seen people keeling over on any videos since those in China what's with that?