I wonder if the government will ever realize that the farangs were the ones keeping this city going.  Visa requirements are still not very friendly.

Its the same (if not worse) on the West Coast of Phuket. almost all businesses are closed (most not just temporary closures). 

Thai Government are doing close to nothing to help support the Thai's in this area.....Most have lost their jobs....many have packed up and gone back to their provinces (but the ones who cant even afford to leave have been left to their own devices to try and survive. Very sad to hear the stories from the local Thai's. 

20 hours ago, Leaver said:

The realization that the vaccination of farang in their home country is not the only part of reviving tourism to Thailand. 

 

The vaccine has to roll out across Thailand also, before vaccinated farang will be allowed to visit, and obviously Thai's here don't have confidence in their government to expedite that.  

Thailand say 5 million vaccines available every month free of charge to Thai starting June.. 70 million people ... two doses .. with the best will in the world that's 28 months for everyone to be vaccinated with 2 doses ..IF everything goes as planned

but why rent price is going up ?!

5555 Thai are Thai forever...

 

No matter how bad we may think the situation is now, it is going to get a lot worse before two MAJOR contributors are dealt out of the equation. Quarantine has to go, and I'm not going to even mention the other ????

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you have enough money to last the rest of your life, do you really still need to 'invest'?

 

 

 

Avarice:

Avarice is a more formal word than greed. It suggests a desire to accumulate more and more wealth; and also to hold on to what one has accumulated, hence also suggesting miserliness. It is almost always associated with money and possessions and is not used for food. ... Greed is a less formal and more general word than avarice.

 

https://learnodo-newtonic.com/avarice-vs-greed-difference-between-the-two-synonyms

 

37 minutes ago, tonysilly said:

Back to the Villages!!?? Stupid!! Not everyone in Pattaya lives in Huts and are rice farmers.  1st Pattaya, then Samui, soon all the tourist places will be a thing of the past.   Be careful Patong and Krabi 

Most Thais do live in villages, although many have leccy and water.

 

Shame about Patts. But then; shame about a lot of things around the world.

 

I am blessed to be in Isaan. Trees everywhere. Dirt roads. Clean air. Nice people. Dog packs a bit of a downer, and once the rains start, have to look out for snakes. Is there a better place to live than Isaan?

3 hours ago, Ventenio said:

in most countries, I don't get approached by someone wanting sex for money.......maybe once in a few decades!!!  

 

here.....at least every 10 minutes.......everyone.   everyone.  it's an everyday thing, no question

 

you see it everyday

 

everyday

 

every store there might be a lady who says "hi" and then later asks for money for sex.  

What utter nonsense.

Year by year for the last 20 years Thais have shown an increase in cocky behavior towards foreigners.  And right before the pandemic such behavior was pretty bad in some areas where has a lot of tourism.  
 

Maybe it’s about to sink in that they are not much without tourists money and successful export businesses to  these same foreigner countries. Rice bags alone can’t fill up the bank. 

3 hours ago, Ventenio said:

in most countries, I don't get approached by someone wanting sex for money.......maybe once in a few decades!!!  

here.....at least every 10 minutes.......everyone.   everyone.  it's an everyday thing, no question

you see it everyday

everyday

every store there might be a lady who says "hi" and then later asks for money for sex.  

In Saigon I was approached every day, sitting in the park, in the coffee shops, just walking down the road.

In Cambodia, I was approached nearly every time I went out the door.

In Chiang Mai never, unless I was in hooker street (Loi Kro or MoonMuang Soi 1/2).

Pattaya, again not unless I was walking down one of the hooker streets.

Bangkok, not even once, ever.

 

I guess it depends where you live, and what sort of streets you walk down.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

In Saigon I was approached every day, sitting in the park, in the coffee shops, just walking down the road.

In Cambodia, I was approached nearly every time I went out the door.

In Chiang Mai never, unless I was in hooker street (Loi Kro or MoonMuand Soi 1/2).

Pattaya, again not unless I was walking down one of the hooker streets.

 

I guess it depends where you live, and what sort of streets you walk down.

I'm about to be happily married - but if sh-t hits the fan, at least your very informative post will point me in the right direction! Thanks ????

22 hours ago, anchadian said:

Once covid-19 has been completed eradicated, Pattaya's 'family resort' will return back to its glory days.

 

Trust you don't mind waiting several years.

 

I would say up to 10 years. That is a guess on the optimistic side.

 

 

1 minute ago, ripstanley said:

I would say up to 10 years. That is a guess on the optimistic side. 

 

Being so cheerful keeps you going! ????

maiby a good lime to buy something there ????. 

20 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

When will the Soi 6 creeps leave for good?

Mate, the hookers will never leave. Easy money.

A real shame for the good people of Thailand.

The people do not deserve what is happening.

The Kingdom will, of course, recover eventually.

The only worry is the Chinese investors being allowed to buy The Kingdom from under the nose of the people.

Thailand was a fantastic tourist destination for the whole world, however, the influx and influence of the Chinese money will not be in the favour of the people or The Kingdom.

11 hours ago, mikebell said:

Agreed.  I am looking to rent (a house) long-term.  It should be a buyers' market but daily I see ludicrous prices being asked. Rather than suffer a loss of 'face', landlords would suffer months of no income.

The reason is that there is a different feel to things here.  It takes the bank years for foreclose if they do.

There is  no holding fee of any real kind and of course you can shut off the utilities and not worry about the place.  

 

The smart money for those that can is just to mothball the place and then in a couple of years when the market comes back wither sell or rent.

 

As long as there is no bank on your assets then you really have no loss.

22 hours ago, Leaver said:

The realization that the vaccination of farang in their home country is not the only part of reviving tourism to Thailand. 

 

The vaccine has to roll out across Thailand also, before vaccinated farang will be allowed to visit, and obviously Thai's here don't have confidence in their government to expedite that.  

Why would vaccinated tourist want to come to a country of unvaccinated locals? 

2 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

Why would vaccinated tourist want to come to a country of unvaccinated locals? 

Why would they not?

If the tourist is vaccinated why would they care?

What is the problem with self-quarantine? 

– It’s enforceable by both manual and modern means
– It has an immediate impact on the economy with a limited danger of spreading of the virus
– It can be rolled out to select groups: the Retired, Employed, Educator, etc
– It’s a Win/Win for the Government, the unemployed locals and the disgruntled foreigner

I have not heard a legitimate objection or discussion. This should be questioned, addressed, analyzed.

10 hours ago, Surelynot said:

I know....I feel stupid not making a serious effort to drive him down......but we are in now....it is very nice and we are settled for a year.

They are already suffering and you want to kick them when their down.   Way to go to sport

23 hours ago, anchadian said:

Once covid-19 has been completed eradicated, Pattaya's 'family resort' will return back to its glory days.

 

Trust you don't mind waiting several years.

 

at least they can clean it up. sdn wi ll not havesewer over flow anymore.

 

and may be the good days will roll back.. these girls can return back with good price all night and not send their grand mother to lay on their back.

 

well the Farang in Bangkok with all their international money will have to just stay home

 

Just now, the green light said:

at least they can clean it up. and will not have sewer over flow anymore.

 

and may be the good days will roll back.. these girls can return back with good price all night and not send their grand mother to lay on their back.

 

well the Farang in Bangkok with all their international money will have to just stay home

 

 

2 hours ago, MadMuhammad said:

And just like that they’ll be back again. Non story 

 

I do really hope so for all involved ...

23 hours ago, YetAnother said:

not to worry ; TAT has them coming back next month in the millions

Pattaya has always been "the ripoff farang city"  Farangs did not mind as long as they can be well entertained.

 

Even before the pandemic the bars used to be filled with old ladies. the young ladies are gone because they wanted younger clientele.  Now they are desperate, hope they can come back and realize who has money. Restaurant well already poor quality and expensive.  So no loss to patttaya there between the old grand ma working the bars, poor quality restaurant.. May be the city can be improved and thai people come back with a different prospect towards farangs.

 

The only people who have money in thailand now are the farangs

 

'The Tourism Authority of Thailand is an organization of Thailand under the Ministry of Tourism and Sports.' 

 

And the army, the real power in the country, take absolutely no notice of them, or any other Govt bureacracy

2 hours ago, WhyamIhere said:

I wonder if the government will ever realize that the farangs were the ones keeping this city going.  Visa requirements are still not very friendly.

Falang keeping the city going?

is that why 80 percent of the business are closed?

nothing there but old broke cheap Charlie’s, that why they want the Chinese back!

This Pandemie has made a lot of people more "Inventive".
I know personally a few girls who used to work in a beer bar in Pattaya before the Pandemie.
When tourist were low and the bar closed, she came back to Issaan to help in the family farm.
They started a "Cam show" in which they offered nude movies and playing with toys.
Some of them offered also a "Cam show" with a girlfriend or a boyfriend.
After a month, they made more money than with working in the beer bars in Pattaya and be far from their family.
And, best of all, they did not need to sleep with a smelly old farang for 1,500 Baht.
Now, they have a good income and don't think to go back to that <deleted>hole.

The same with the food sellers.
They came back to Issaan and opened an online food store.
A lot of them publish their food in Facebook.
They make a lot of money and don't need an expensive infrastructure.
A phone and a kitchen and they can make money. 

Many things have changed with Covid-19 and some have changed for the better.

9 hours ago, popabear said:

Me, Im waiting to leave a locked up Australia .????     Regards,,,,Popa

It surely lives up to its origins as a convict colony for all the British scum that was exited in an earlier version of brexited.

17 minutes ago, the green light said:

the young ladies are gone because they wanted younger clientele.

Would have to disagree,

The younger ladies are gone because they all know how to use Thaifriendly, WeChat, Line, BeeTalk, et al and would prefer not to sit in scummy bars as unpaid wait staff where everyone can see how they are earning their money.