Popular Post webfact Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 An entrepreneur in the making! Charming 10 year old making 400 baht a day selling veg to help her gran Picture: Sanook It is an all too familiar story in Thailand - children being looked after by grandparents after a husband and wife split up. But that is not worrying ten year old Suphannika Nuatklang or "Baiyok" a P4 pupil at Don Wai School in Korat who lives with her gran and younger brother. After school and at weekends she rides her tricycle to sell her grandmother's organically grown vegetables at the PTT gas station nearby. She is clearly an entrepreneur in the making because she astutely realised the number of customers would be big and they would have a sharp eye for quality veg at good prices. She told Sanook that she is getting daily sales of between 300 and 400 baht and the money goes to her gran to help with the household expenses. Baiyok that means jade is certainly a gem! Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-02-15 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 7 2
Popular Post Crossy Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 Good on ya gal!! Keep it up. 12 1 "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
Popular Post worgeordie Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 Did the same when I was a kid, my brother and i used to take barrow around the houses ,sometimes selling potatoes ,firewood, and eggs,but not for the family,just to earn money for ourselves work hard and save,you can retire early. regards Worgeordie 6 1
Popular Post Tarteso Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 Definition of Child labour; Child exploitation, therefore, is the work that children carry out within the framework of an economic production system. ... The phenomenon can have serious consequences for the development of minors, since it affects the enjoyment of their rights. 3 3 3
Popular Post JeffersLos Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 I suppose the father is away working, so he can send money back to his children. 2 2
Tarteso Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, worgeordie said: Did the same when I was a kid, my brother and i used to take barrow around the houses ,sometimes selling potatoes ,firewood, and eggs,but not for the family,just to earn money for ourselves work hard and save,you can retire early. regards Worgeordie Then..would be necessary to specify and assess risks, I think it is not the same. Who is safer, you? Me mowing lawn or a Gem near a gas station (in Thailand). waiting for a treasure hunter ? ZERO tolerance in this case. 1 2
Popular Post timendres Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Tarteso said: Definition of Child labour; Child exploitation, therefore, is the work that children carry out within the framework of an economic production system. ... The phenomenon can have serious consequences for the development of minors, since it affects the enjoyment of their rights. This girl is not being exploited. And she is enjoying her right to support her family, which gives her a sense of pride. And with her experience, she will likely someday be the boss of the losers that sit at home playing on their phones learning nothing. 15 1
Tarteso Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, timendres said: This girl is not being exploited. False 13 minutes ago, timendres said: she is enjoying her right False 14 minutes ago, timendres said: losers that sit at home playing on their phones learning nothing. Absolutely agree. Read UN Children's Rights. 2 2
Popular Post Mike Rodik Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 in other countries, this would be CHILD LABOR 5 1 1
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 She could easily get a ministerial role by tomorrow well done ???? 3
kingofthemountain Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 In a ''normal world'' to support her gran with the daily expenses should be the duty of the father and mother. I don't see any mention in the article of them sending money on a regular basis. It's where the main problem is. Duty and responsabilities, something rarely at work in Thailand. Tarteso is right in his posts, it's not a good thing to see a 10 yo child at work she should be learning school stuff or enjoying her free time playing with the others childs, that's what the child are supposed to do. Being a young girl looking for some money on the parking of a gasoline station it's obvious she is actually under a very high risk, what could possibly go wrong if a kind ''gentleman'' offer to her 5000 bhts just for a walk together in the woods? 2 1
Venom Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 That's more than 711 pays an adult mother of 3 children! Go girl! 2
Popular Post youreavinalaff Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: enjoying her free time Where did she say she isn't? 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: Being a young girl looking for some money on the parking of a gasoline station it's obvious she is actually under a very high risk, what could possibly go wrong if a kind ''gentleman'' offer to her 5000 bhts just for a walk together in the woods? Do you live in Issan? If you do you will understand the way of life. The story does mention "petrol station nearby". Likely most of the other stalls and stall holders are known to the girl. Many of them doing the same as she is, selling locally grown or produced product. She will be among those that know her and will be looking out for her. Stories like these don't just fall in the lap of journalists. It would likely have been reported by someone local who was as proud of this girl as her family, particularly grandmother, are. This is a lovely story of a youngster doing a good thing to give something back to her grandmother. A "thank you" to someone she cares for. 1 2
kingofthemountain Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Venom said: That's more than 711 pays an adult mother of 3 children! Go girl! Yes go girl, go !!! in 5 years she should be old enough to earn 10X this amount in a Thai karaoke pfffff seriously guys......???? i sometimes really hope you are some sort of irresponsible teen and not a parent of a child. (I know i am dreaming) 1 1
Popular Post Venom Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: Yes go girl, go !!! in 5 years she should be old enough to earn 10X this amount in a Thai karaoke pfffff seriously guys......???? i sometimes really hope you are some sort of irresponsible teen and not a parent of a child. (I know i am dreaming) I had a lemonade stand when I was her age. At this rate she will own your karaoke bar and you will be working for her! ???? 4 1
Popular Post NanLaew Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said: In a ''normal world'' to support her gran with the daily expenses should be the duty of the father and mother. I don't see any mention in the article of them sending money on a regular basis. It's where the main problem is. Duty and responsabilities, something rarely at work in Thailand. Tarteso is right in his posts, it's not a good thing to see a 10 yo child at work she should be learning school stuff or enjoying her free time playing with the others childs, that's what the child are supposed to do. Being a young girl looking for some money on the parking of a gasoline station it's obvious she is actually under a very high risk, what could possibly go wrong if a kind ''gentleman'' offer to her 5000 bhts just for a walk together in the woods? Is there any mention in the article that the girls mother and father are NOT sending money home to support grandma and their kids? Is there? No. It's that all-knowing 'Thai's make bad parents' judgement call again. The main problem is with woke foreigners, most of whom have forsaken their own nanny states for their own personal nirvana in Thailand. Then they get all upset when something 'ugly' shatters their home-spun illusion of being a holier than thou goody goody living in paradise. @Tarteso like yourself, is fully entitled to misguided notions of what constitutes child labor. There's no mention or suggestion of this girl working "within the framework of an economic production system". Absolutely none! As for you and @Tarteso both banging on about her easily becoming the victim of a sexual predator, that's just plain creepy. 3
kingofthemountain Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Where did she say she isn't? Do you live in Issan? If you do you will understand the way of life. The story does mention "petrol station nearby". Likely most of the other stalls and stall holders are known to the girl. Many of them doing the same as she is, selling locally grown or produced product. She will be among those that know her and will be looking out for her. Stories like these don't just fall in the lap of journalists. It would likely have been reported by someone local who was as proud of this girl as her family, particularly grandmother, are. This is a lovely story of a youngster doing a good thing to give something back to her grandmother. A "thank you" to someone she cares for. All over the world, in Thailand, in Issan or whatever they are the child loves to play unfortunately a lot of them haven't the choice. Because of the adults failures Work is an adult occupation, She is actually working and it should be an adult doing the job. Giving enough money to the grandmother to rise the child is the parents of the child duty. Putting this duty on this young girl shoulders is wrong in every way. it really surprise me you fall to see this point. Now let me tell you a real and sad story about a small village, not in Issan but in a rural area in the north where i lived during 5 years. A young 12 yo girl was selling vegetables and some stuff door to door in the village A small village with less than 1000 people, where everybody know everybody and where they are supposed to looking out for her. One day it was discovered that the girl was selling not only vegetables,but also some manual services to the lonely old men in their houses. Of course the profits for her were more interesting than few hundred of baht when she was lucky. And his family was happy that she was bringing more money at home. I suppose you are still ok with this way of doing things? After all she was proud to help her family. What a lovely story isn't it? 3
Popular Post NanLaew Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: Yes go girl, go !!! in 5 years she should be old enough to earn 10X this amount in a Thai karaoke pfffff seriously guys......???? i sometimes really hope you are some sort of irresponsible teen and not a parent of a child. (I know i am dreaming) Oh wow... and there's that creepy sexual vibe again. @kingofthemountain reckons that all young Thai girls who are not cared for directly by their parents will be molested in gas station parking lots and end up working karaoke shacks. I can hardly wait for the next thrilling episode where she gets on the bus to Pattaya. 3
kingofthemountain Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Is there any mention in the article that the girls mother and father are NOT sending money home to support grandma and their kids? Is there? No. It's that all-knowing 'Thai's make bad parents' judgement call again. The main problem is with woke foreigners, most of whom have forsaken their own nanny states for their own personal nirvana in Thailand. Then they get all upset when something 'ugly' shatters their home-spun illusion of being a holier than thou goody goody living in paradise. @Tarteso like yourself, is fully entitled to misguided notions of what constitutes child labor. There's no mention or suggestion of this girl working "within the framework of an economic production system". Absolutely none! As for you and @Tarteso both banging on about her easily becoming the victim of a sexual predator, that's just plain creepy. please read my post above if you don't understant the point i can not help you 2
Popular Post NanLaew Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: Now let me tell you a real and sad story about a small village, not in Issan but in a rural area in the north where i lived during 5 years. A young 12 yo girl was selling vegetables and some stuff door to door in the village A small village with less than 1000 people, where everybody know everybody and where they are supposed to looking out for her. One day it was discovered that the girl was selling not only vegetables,but also some manual services to the lonely old men in their houses. Please, please, PLEASE for the love of Mike, give up on peddling this tripe. 4
Popular Post youreavinalaff Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: All over the world, in Thailand, in Issan or whatever they are the child loves to play unfortunately a lot of them haven't the choice. Because of the adults failures Work is an adult occupation, She is actually working and it should be an adult doing the job. Giving enough money to the grandmother to rise the child is the parents of the child duty. Putting this duty on this young girl shoulders is wrong in every way. it really surprise me you fall to see this point. Now let me tell you a real and sad story about a small village, not in Issan but in a rural area in the north where i lived during 5 years. A young 12 yo girl was selling vegetables and some stuff door to door in the village A small village with less than 1000 people, where everybody know everybody and where they are supposed to looking out for her. One day it was discovered that the girl was selling not only vegetables,but also some manual services to the lonely old men in their houses. Of course the profits for her were more interesting than few hundred of baht when she was lucky. And his family was happy that she was bringing more money at home. I suppose you are still ok with this way of doing things? After all she was proud to help her family. What a lovely story isn't it? So, you have seen one sad story and label all others the same. You also only " heard" this story. It would be interesting to see the news report about what happened to the bad old men and the girls parents. You mention the parents. We don't know about them, do we? Perfectly plausible that they have passed away. It's perfectly plausible that the girl and her grandmother would be living in absolute poverty if it weren't for their get up and go attitude. Good luck to both of them. 3
kingofthemountain Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Is there any mention in the article that the girls mother and father are NOT sending money home to support grandma and their kids? Is there? No. It's that all-knowing 'Thai's make bad parents' judgement call again. You should learn to read better from the OP article: ''She told Sanook that she is getting daily sales of between 300 and 400 baht and the money goes to her gran to help with the household expenses. '' if the parents were sending money home enough money to support grandma and their kids the daily 300\400 bahts from the little girl work shouldn't be required 1
jak2002003 Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Venom said: I had a lemonade stand when I was her age. At this rate she will own your karaoke bar and you will be working for her! ???? Was it every day and weekends all year long outside a petrol station in the heat..... out of desperation to get enough money for your grandparents and you to get food to eat and survive? Or was it a few times to get money for yourself to buy junk untill you got bored and stopped and went back home to a big dinner and modern house? 2
youreavinalaff Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, jak2002003 said: Was it every day and weekends all year long Was it? The story I mean.
Popular Post BostonRob2 Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 47 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said: It's not a good news story and it's not thai bashing, it's just common sense if you were the father of a 10 yo child and if she was forced to work to earn money to pay the domestic expenses, you should be red with shame to not be responsible enough to do what is your most basic duty to give a financial support to your family This is not your child's duty, you don't understand that ? She is not being forced, she is being helpful in her freetime and is learning a valuable life skill. I have encouraged such activity in my own children at similar ages and they have learned valuable lessons. As I wistfully look out of my window in Boston I see snowflakes, yet it is not snowing. 3
kingofthemountain Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: You also only " heard" this story. It would be interesting to see the news report about what happened to the bad old men and the girls parents. obviously you do a lot of assumptions without knowing nothing it was not only ''heard'', the story was never in the news for your information nothing at all happened to the old men (They were some dozens of culprits) nor to the girls parents. The only one to be punished was the girl, send in a disciplanary camp where she was supposed to learn how to behave better. And a lot of faces saved all other the village. Sad but true. 1
Gecko123 Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 I fully applaud her entrepreneurial spirit, but a gas station is far from an ideal environment for a pre-teen girl to be in, especially without any type of adult supervision. The constant flow of traffic and transient nature of gas stations carries an increased risk of abduction, public rest rooms are occasionally used as venues for sexual assaults, there's the risk of being hit by traffic (especially by backing trucks and buses), and elevated carcinogen levels from petrochemicals and exhaust fumes. I think she should seriously consider looking for a safer environment (even if it means lower sales), and, at a minimum, establish a "buddy system" relationship with another vendor. She should also walk - rather than ride - her bicycle while on the gas station premises, and under absolutely no circumstances work after dark. 1
sherwood Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 No way is she making 400 baht a day, even if she is growing the veg herself. Good for her but by jebus, just no way. Anyone else here sell veg direct from the farm gate? I call it community service. 1
Popular Post NanLaew Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 5:09 PM, Gecko123 said: I fully applaud her entrepreneurial spirit, but a gas station is far from an ideal environment for a pre-teen girl to be in, especially without any type of adult supervision. The constant flow of traffic and transient nature of gas stations carries an increased risk of abduction, public rest rooms are occasionally used as venues for sexual assaults, there's the risk of being hit by traffic (especially by backing trucks and buses), and elevated carcinogen levels from petrochemicals and exhaust fumes. I think she should consider looking for a safer environment (even if it means lower sales), and, at a minimum, establish a "buddy system" relationship with another vendor. She should also walk - rather than ride - her bicycle while on the gas station premises, and under absolutely no circumstances work after dark. OMG! Another one ,<removed> I guess you haven't a clue about how many people work in an around a PTT forecourt. It's probably a helluva lot safer than pitching a stall on a back road or even on the main street of her village. I bet she's already got her "buddy system" well honed by now but regardless, not everyone is Gary bloody Glitter you know. 3
Popular Post RubbaJohnny Posted February 15, 2021 Popular Post Posted February 15, 2021 Tough crowd I started work at 10 and progressed from paper rounds, car cleans to really hard adult work by 14, did me no harm and I kept all the cash for bikes , music and later dates. Good luck to the kid better than some multi national selling spryaed crops or GMO stuff in plastic wrappers out of an aircon mall with min wage. Lo tech , clean, healthy exercise while half the boys in Thailand gross out on screens. Of course taking 300 a day is not all profit , I guess she be lucky to pocket a few bucks , but the lessons about work ethic, dealing worth people is invaluable 3
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