Eight killed in Atlanta-area shooting rampage; suspect arrested

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Sure. Massage parlors are where crime that is the topic of this thread were committed.

Outcall massage, it just something a leftist would use to "prove" that there were plenty of massage parlors employing white sex workers, when nothing of the sort has been proven. 

Clear?

In any event, the suspect committed the crimes at venues he frequented. If he hated Asians, why would he not have frequented one of the many massage parlors that employed white sex workers? 

 

Yeah and Southern slavers that had sex with their slaves weren't racists.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

Do you have the statistics on this? I would like to see it, if so. Thanks.

No but if you've been following the news its obvious.

 

https://jacksonvillefreepress.com/racially-motivated-mass-murders-multiply-and-no-solutions-are-in-site/

[onthedarkside]

 

The suspect in the spa attacks has been charged with eight counts of murder

ACWORTH, Ga. — The man who police say went on a rampage at three spas in the Atlanta area, killing eight people, was charged on Wednesday with eight counts of murder in connection with the attacks.

The brazen shootings, which took the lives of six women of Asian descent, stirred considerable outrage and fear in the Asian-American community. Investigators said they had not ruled out bias as a motivating factor even as the suspect denied such racial animus once in custody.

The suspect told the police that he had a “sexual addiction” and had carried out the shootings at the massage parlors to eliminate his “temptation,” the authorities said on Wednesday. He also said that he had frequented massage parlors in the past and launched the attacks as a form of vengeance. All but one of the victims were women, the police said.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/17/us/shooting-atlanta-acworth#the-suspect-in-the-spa-attacks-has-been-charged-with-eight-counts-of-murder

 

[onthedarkside]

Unsettling questions surround the motive behind three Atlanta-area spa shootings as Asians in the US face increased hate

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The suspect told police he believed he had a sex addiction and that he saw the spas as "a temptation ... that he wanted to eliminate," Cherokee County sheriff's Capt. Jay Baker said at Wednesday's news conference.

 

However, Atlanta Police Chief Rodney Bryant said it is still too early to know a motive behind the devastating violence.

And for Asians and Asian Americans facing increased incidents of hate in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic, the attacks and questions around their motivations only exacerbate existing fears.

 

"When we learned about this last night, we were horrified and the sinking feeling that I had was this had to be a crime related to AAPI hate. As we have learned details of the event unfold, I still believe that this is a racially-motivated crime," Georgia State House Representative Bee Nguyen told CNN on Wednesday. "In this particular case, where the victims were Asian women, we see the intersections of racism, xenophobia, and gender-based violence."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/18/us/metro-atlanta-shootings-thursday/index.html

 

[onthedarkside]

 

Georgia sheriff's official under fire for remarks on spa shootings, anti-Asian Facebook post

"Place your order while they last," Capt. Jay Baker wrote above a photo of two T-shirts that said "Covid 19 IMPORTED VIRUS FROM CHY-NA."

A Georgia sheriff's spokesperson who came under fire Wednesday for statements he made about the suspect in the Atlanta-area spa shootings, which killed eight people, including six women of Asian descent, previously shared an anti-Asian post on Facebook.

At a news conference Wednesday, Capt. Jay Baker, a spokesman for the Cherokee County Sheriff's Office, said that Robert Aaron Long, who has been charged with eight counts of murder, "was pretty much fed up and kind of at the end of his rope" and that Tuesday "was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did."

The comments were criticized as inappropriate and insensitive to the victims.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-sheriff-s-official-under-fire-remarks-spa-shootings-anti-n1261359

 

[Yellowtail]

So what Christion church was this guy attending regularly? 

 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

So what Christion church was this guy attending regularly? 

 

He had been very active at the Crabapple First Baptist Church in Milton, Georgia (Southern Baptist) but I don't know his recent attendance record. 

The online presence of that church is now blocked, presumably their action. 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Some interesting background on his supposed self labeling as a sex addict. When I first heard that my immediate response was it sounds like religious mania. Whether there is really such a thing as sex addiction is debatable, but apparently it is generally not associated with violence. 

'Sex addiction’ cited by Atlanta shooting suspect is not an official diagnosis, doubted by some experts - The Washington Post

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The Atlanta suspect isn’t the first to blame ‘sex addiction’ for heinous crimes. But scientists are dubious.

 

[ExpatOK]

So now as more information is coming out, it is apparent that the crimes were a result of the suspect's inability to deal with his sex addiction. 

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

So now as more information is coming out, it is apparent that the crimes were a result of the suspect's inability to deal with his sex addiction. 

If you take the victim blaming mass murderer's word for it.

Better not.

Atlanta killings are about race, gender and class -- not just one narrative - The Washington Post

 

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‘It’s race, class and gender together’: Why the Atlanta killings aren’t just about one thing

 

[Credo]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

If you take the victim blaming mass murderer's word for it.

Better not.

Atlanta killings are about race, gender and class -- not just one narrative - The Washington Post

I wonder how many strip joints he drove by to get to the massage parlor with Asian women?

 

[pegman]

I hope the church and pastor that filled this guy's head full of nonsense like "temptation" are fully investigated.  If there is a case to be made for incitement of violence the people responsible should be charged and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. 

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, Credo said:

I wonder how many strip joints he drove by to get to the massage parlor with Asian women?

 

Hmmm, should we go on a shooting rampage at a "massage" parlor full of defenseless young women or a strip club full of GIs and rednecks, that's a tough one. 

[Jeffr2]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Hmmm, should we go on a shooting rampage at a "massage" parlor full of defenseless young women or a strip club full of GIs and rednecks, that's a tough one. 

Yeah, proves what a disgusting individual he was.  Misogynist and racist.  A horrible individual who supposedly was religious.   Right....

https://www.vox.com/22336317/atlanta-georgia-shootings-racism-misogyny-targeting-asian-women

The Atlanta shootings can’t be divorced from racism and misogyny

The suspect has claimed that these attacks weren’t racially motivated even though they predominantly targeted women of Asian descent.

[Scott]

This was  previously posted and this is the final warning:

Continue referring to the victims as prostitutes or sex workers will earn a suspension unless/until there is a credible source for such information.  I somehow doubt the man who was reportedly shot was a sex worker.  

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, pegman said:

I hope the church and pastor that filled this guy's head full of nonsense like "temptation" are fully investigated.  If there is a case to be made for incitement of violence the people responsible should be charged and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. 

Good luck with that. I reckon the number of people that have been badly psychologically damaged by hell and brimstone style religion is well beyond the realistic scope of lawsuits.

[pegman]

43 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Good luck with that. I reckon the number of people that have been badly psychologically damaged by hell and brimstone style religion is well beyond the realistic scope of lawsuits.

Yeah, I know what you mean but it would be nice. The harm done by religions of all sorts is  immeasurable. 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, pegman said:

Yeah, I know what you mean but it would be nice. The harm done by religions of all sorts is  immeasurable. 

Particularly when you are attempting to measure it against all they good they have done....

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Yeah, proves what a disgusting individual he was.  Misogynist and racist.  A horrible individual who supposedly was religious.   Right....

https://www.vox.com/22336317/atlanta-georgia-shootings-racism-misogyny-targeting-asian-women

The Atlanta shootings can’t be divorced from racism and misogyny

The suspect has claimed that these attacks weren’t racially motivated even though they predominantly targeted women of Asian descent.

It's pretty easy to see that the actions of this nut job and the posts here are split between those who deny that his actions have anything to do with the "right/Conservative" including those who use racism as a tool, versus those who support the recent government change and are not supporters of such practices.

I made a reference to it in a previous post about how this idiot looked similar to others of right-wing persuasion, using the word "cult" as a clue.

Race hate crimes, especially against those of Asian origins have been on the increase and IMO a lot of that was driven by the racist rhetoric prevalent throughout the period of the last administration.    

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3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Hmmm, should we go on a shooting rampage at a "massage" parlor full of defenseless young women or a strip club full of GIs and rednecks, that's a tough one. 

"defenseless young women" who just happened to be Asian?

And why do you think it makes sense to compare a massage parlor to a strip club?

[Jingthing]

43 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Particularly when you are attempting to measure it against all they good they have done....

Nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition!

[Yellowtail]

39 minutes ago, placeholder said:

"defenseless young women" who just happened to be Asian?

And why do you think it makes sense to compare a massage parlor to a strip club?

I did not make that comparison, that comparison was made by a SOMEONE claiming that had the perpetrator not been specifically targeting Asians, they would have stopped at one other many strip-clubs in Atlanta. 

I was merely pointing out how ridiculous the comparison was.

We good?

 

Edited March 19, 2021 by Yellowtail
correction

[Yellowtail]

30 minutes ago, xylophone said:

It's pretty easy to see that the actions of this nut job and the posts here are split between those who deny that his actions have anything to do with the "right/Conservative" including those who use racism as a tool, versus those who support the recent government change and are not supporters of such practices.

I made a reference to it in a previous post about how this idiot looked similar to others of right-wing persuasion, using the word "cult" as a clue.

Race hate crimes, especially against those of Asian origins have been on the increase and IMO a lot of that was driven by the racist rhetoric prevalent throughout the period of the last administration.    

Yes, the left is blaming the right, the the right is blaming the perpetrator.

There is nothing new about the the rising crime rate against Asians, it's just not been widely reported as the reporting has previously not been useful to the left. 

The left claiming the right uses race as a tool, that's a good one. You get that form Vox? 

[Jeffr2]

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, the left is blaming the right, the the right is blaming the perpetrator.

There is nothing new about the the rising crime rate against Asians, it's just not been widely reported as the reporting has previously not been useful to the left. 

The left claiming the right uses race as a tool, that's a good one. You get that form Vox? 

Hate crimes against Asians have risen dramatically over the past year.  Calling the virus WuFlu, etc, made things worse. 

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, the left is blaming the right, the the right is blaming the perpetrator.

There is nothing new about the the rising crime rate against Asians, it's just not been widely reported as the reporting has previously not been useful to the left. 

The left claiming the right uses race as a tool, that's a good one. You get that form Vox? 

It started to spike significantly as a direct result of the former president guy's hateful anti Asian rhetoric.  That was new 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

Hate crimes against Asians have risen dramatically over the past year.  Calling the virus WuFlu, etc, made things worse. 

Do you have any data that supports that claim, and that support the ideal the it was because or Trump's rhetoric?

I don't mean an opinion piece, or conclusion drawn by  an "investigative" reporter, but some actual data?

In any event, once political groups start tracking "hate" crimes they have to go up. 

Should not ALL violent assault crimes be considered "hate" crimes or only those perpetuated by whites?  

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Hate crimes against Asians have risen dramatically over the past year.  Calling the virus WuFlu, etc, made things worse. 

Huge blame on the Rep Party encouragement to their lawmakers to use that vile language.  

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-memo-republican-campaigns-to-attack-china-for-covid-19-2020-4

[Bluespunk]

10 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

So now as more information is coming out, it is apparent that the crimes were a result of the suspect's inability to deal with his sex addiction. 

At least that is what this scumbag piece of <deleted> wants the world to believe. 

[Jeffr2]

10 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have any data that supports that claim, and that support the ideal the it was because or Trump's rhetoric?

I don't mean an opinion piece, or conclusion drawn by  an "investigative" reporter, but some actual data?

In any event, once political groups start tracking "hate" crimes they have to go up. 

Should not ALL violent assault crimes be considered "hate" crimes or only those perpetuated by whites?  

Yes, I posted it previously.

[Yellowtail]

10 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Huge blame on the Rep Party encouragement to their lawmakers to use that vile language.  

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-memo-republican-campaigns-to-attack-china-for-covid-19-2020-4

How does attacking China (a county) translate to hostility against Asians living in the US?

Edited March 19, 2021 by onthedarkside
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