I hope someone goes on a Thai language site and tells people to just stay home if you are not majorly sick..

or a-symtomatic.

and definately DON'T get tested.

 

This would have a few good effects:

 

1. Stop the spread.

AND, Others wont get infected when you go out to get tested.

 

2. If there is no data, then authorities are less likely to react stupidly, with restrictions that hurt MORE healthy  people than those who are sick 

(ie the other 99% of us who want to live life)

 

3. Then authorities will be forced to just manage it and get on with life

IF/when there is no more constant spreading of fear and panic.

 

I predict many people in several countries will soon get sick of all this B.S,  and realise if they dont get tested they wont be feeding this idiotic reaction thats destroying lives everywhere.

6 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

If Thailand has hopes of being in the tourist bubble with countries like NZ, Aus, Singapore & Vietnam

it will have to lift its game and forget about immediate intra country tourism and tighten up its approach to restricting travel and spread of the virus at home. Short term gain appears to be at the fore front of Thailand's  bureaucracy rather than taking a solid stand on restricting the spread of the virus.

 

Those bubbles just popped.

6 hours ago, Cadan said:

Finally arrived. No way to stop the spreading now. Just can pray that we get enough vaccines on time before the big numbers start to roll in. So much time was lost and not enough orders placed

for vaccination. It does not take a lot of IQ to have ordered the ONE shot Johnson vaccine with August arrival and we would be done by end September. No no we have to produce it locally and make a few bucks.... the greed evening during  this pandemic is overwhelming... 

"the greed evening during  this pandemic is overwhelming...".  How right you are, between the unelected "PM" and the hospitals, they must be making a fortune. I hope Karma bites them up the backside. 

3 hours ago, nickmondo said:

i totally agree with the comment about the bars

here in Hua Hin, I do not go in the bars, for the simple reason that nobody is wearing a mask.

nobody, staff or patrons.

no social distancing, nothing.

one bar owner is always asking me to come in her bar, and I explain why to her.

she says i worry to much..........ok.......lets see who is right.

Falang think too mutt!????

A year ago, the priority was protecting the country against Covid, no matter what. The government got itself vaccinated. This year, the priority is the economy, no matter what.

9 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

9%!!! Given the rate at which the virus has spread in other countries, that's a very worrying figure.

Saw the BBC news..UK been averaging just over 3000 cases daily in the past few weeks and 20 deaths.Just on 30 million vaccinated(once)6 million had their 2nd one, outdoor drinking from next Monday,then gyms and hairdressers open.This will be interesting to compare when people get out again over there and mix..Will cases skyrocket again or will the vaccine have done its job?Dare I say it..could the numbers even be higher than 9% overall in Thailand as there are no mass testing in other parts of the country on a daily basis.As for Songkran..hate to think!

The US now has a surplus of Covid shots. Instead of the rush to give them to Mexico or Canada, why doesn't the US government actually work for its own citizens and provide vaccinations to Americans in places such as Thailand, where we can't get it at all?

 

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2021/04/06/covid-19-vaccine-surplus-should-go-mexico-first/4807375001/

I always thought the notion that thailand was covid free was bs. Hopoefully this just means its long been endemic and their wont be a wave of hospilisations.

1 hour ago, Tonypandy said:

Compared to other countries that have had waves this is a ripple. 

I have this horrible horrible feeling that what is slowly becoming UK's past, is going to be Thailand's future with regard to numbers of infections.

I so hope I'm wrong, but look at Brazil for what happens when a leadership is in denial.  Usually my glass is half-full but with this, well.......

7 minutes ago, VBF said:

I have this horrible horrible feeling that what is slowly becoming UK's past, is going to be Thailand's future with regard to numbers of infections.

I so hope I'm wrong, but look at Brazil for what happens when a leadership is in denial.  Usually my glass is half-full but with this, well.......

Brazil?! Look at Sweden, when a country was in denial?

7 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Look at Sweden when a country was in denial?

Yep, terrible compared to its Scandinavian neighbours. Thailand doesn't want to make that mistake.

4 minutes ago, DJBenz said:

Yep, terrible compared to its Scandinavian neighbours. Thailand doesn't want to make that mistake.

Sweden thought they didn't need to bother with lockdowns and all that mullarky. Everything was tickety-boo, then they were hit just the same as many other countries.

3 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Sweden thought they didn't need to bother with lockdowns and all that mullarky. Everything was tickety-boo, then they were hit just the same as many other countries.

I know, I was agreeing with you. ????

 

They were in a slightly better situation than we were in the UK, mainly due to lower population density, but compared to their neighbours in Norway, Finland and Denmark who did lock down, they had comparatively awful results.

2 minutes ago, DJBenz said:

I know, I was agreeing with you. ????

 

They were in a slightly better situation than we were in the UK, mainly due to lower population density, but compared to their neighbours in Norway, Finland and Denmark who did lock down, they had comparatively awful results.

Very true, it's a bigger country, and they have a population not much bigger than that of London or NYC.

  

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

If they have AZ vaccines, which are provided at cost (or maybe free), how many are being administered for profit by private medicine?

 

az and sinovac are free for thai and not available for foreigners, but because there is a large stock, all now in provincial and city hospitals, there is a probability of some being stolen and appearing on the black market (as in many countries).

6 hours ago, Miami007 said:

Why would they even test  the 91% who are negative? What is the basis to go to the site?

Sorry, I don't follow you on that - how is it possible to know that 91% are negative if they are not tested?

 

When a big enough sample is tested, it gives an indication as to the greater population within that area. However, with Covid, 9% can very quickly become 18%, 36% .........................

59 minutes ago, longway said:

I always thought the notion that thailand was covid free was bs. Hopoefully this just means its long been endemic and their wont be a wave of hospilisations.

The medical officials never said we were covid free.  They always said the virus was lurking out there.  It was.

 

If cases rise, so will hospitalizations.  Just like in every other country in the world.

5 hours ago, Bkktodd said:

The ones in quarantine are tested multiple times. They are not the problem.  

They may not be the problem but given Thailand's reaction to the virus last year, if things get bad it would not surprise me if they closed the borders again.

 

My fears regarding my travel are also because of the UK's proposed 'traffic light' system for international travel - where Thailand will be on the list of countries is currently unknown but the UK government has stated that it will depend on:

 

The overall rate of infections in a particular country.

 

The prevalence of variants.

 

The % of the population vaccinated.

 

At a guess, Thailand may currently just scrape through as a 'Green Light' country - they appear to have done well in combating the virus and the prevalence of variants is low. However, the vaccination rollout is yet to start in any meaningful way.  I think its more likely that Thailand will fall into the Amber group but if this really is a 'third wave' - they may be given a 'Red Light'. Hence my concerns - after waiting over a year.

They've done very well up to now.

Covid protection fatigue, more likely than long term lurking infections.

Let's hope they can minimise this wave in the coming weeks. 

8 hours ago, jossthaifarang said:

I think it's time we all just carried on about our business, if you need to get tested to find out you have it then how bad is it really? Is it worth closing down the world?

As someone said..."A vaccine so safe you have to be forced to take it, against a virus so deadly, you have to get tested to know if you have it."

1 hour ago, internationalism said:

  

 

az and sinovac are free for thai and not available for foreigners, but because there is a large stock, all now in provincial and city hospitals, there is a probability of some being stolen and appearing on the black market (as in many countries).

What a load of nonsense.

Reported Conspiracy nonsense removed.

On 4/6/2021 at 4:40 PM, Meat Pie 47 said:

Third wave? When was the first and second wave?

 

 

Do a bit of research please. 

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2041495/what-the-new-wave-of-covid-could-mean

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2047919/ministry-confident-second-wave-will-end-this-month

 

3 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

They may not be the problem but given Thailand's reaction to the virus last year, if things get bad it would not surprise me if they closed the borders again.

 

My fears regarding my travel are also because of the UK's proposed 'traffic light' system for international travel - where Thailand will be on the list of countries is currently unknown but the UK government has stated that it will depend on:

 

The overall rate of infections in a particular country.

 

The prevalence of variants.

 

The % of the population vaccinated.

 

At a guess, Thailand may currently just scrape through as a 'Green Light' country - they appear to have done well in combating the virus and the prevalence of variants is low. However, the vaccination rollout is yet to start in any meaningful way.  I think its more likely that Thailand will fall into the Amber group but if this really is a 'third wave' - they may be given a 'Red Light'. Hence my concerns - after waiting over a year.

Same here....we in UK cannot (legally) travel until May 17 anyway (and more likely 21 June) and a helluva lot can change in that time. IF, repeat IF the Thailand figures don't rocket after Songkran, the picture MAY look a little rosier.

 

As I've said before...we wait and see...... ????

2 hours ago, katana said:

As someone said..."A vaccine so safe you have to be forced to take it, against a virus so deadly, you have to get tested to know if you have it."

Have you actually heard of Asymptomatic Transmission........?

13 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Indeed true, I was taken to a bar the other night by some Thai friends [one had a birthday].

No checks at the door, no temp test, no sanitiser, no name taking and inside I was one of a minority wearing a mask.

Complete lack of understanding, yet if like Thong Lor this area had an outbreak, the bars would be the first to cry out.

 

Apathy is the word cos not too long ago everyone would do a temperature check and sign in and out at shopping malls but of late I often see a group of Thai folk entering say a Big C and just swiping their hands over the temperature scanner at best , no signing in with phone contact and the Big C near where I stay did once have a staff member at the store entry to ensure everyone complied with the entry rules but that all stopped a couple of months ago .  Shopping trolley handles were disinfected but not any more . Many people not wearing masks and those that do have many with their nose exposed or hanging round their throats . Social distancing ?  not happening .

15 hours ago, cedel said:

Of course, they barely tested as since 1 year they claimed to be covid-free !!! But virus was there..only not declared probably

in denial

 

17 hours ago, jossthaifarang said:

I think it's time we all just carried on about our business, if you need to get tested to find out you have it then how bad is it really? Is it worth closing down the world?

The Philippines is suffering through the worst lock-down in the world -- and it is doing nothing for the rising numbers.

 

 

Cant avoid a pandemic, only adapt and live through then as it subsides and mutates those left will live with it ...We still live with all the various and previous  pandemic strains throughout history today  they all burned out and mutated to less dangerous versions and this one will be just the same and burn out in time. These vaccines that are based on older strains  stay behind the curve of mutations all the time.

 

They are already admitting vaccines  will need never ending tweaks but really its  only mass natural herd immunity and antibodies in the majority as strains mutate to less  dangerous that will end it and nothing else.  Get on with your life best as possible

While most of the world is slowly returning to normal including the most heavily impacted countries like the U.S, UK and China.  Thailand which was slightly impacted and virtually closed, is now concerned about alleged clusters and possible renewed restrictions.  Where did the clusters allegedly come from. Did the quarantine not work ? Did they destroy their economy only to become one of the last nations on the planet to recover