I got a problem with the drink

[Toohotinbangkok]

Any one recommend a good spot for a 2 week detox? I am drinking alot more than usual lately and been getting these horrendous anxiety hangovers  where I'm next  bordering a panic attack, I wanna go some where near a beach, that's cool, and has access to a macro.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

[Johnny Mac]

I told myself that I should stop drinking, but then thought why listen to a drunk that talks to himself.

[Toohotinbangkok]

16 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

I told myself that I should stop drinking, but then thought why listen to a drunk that talks to himself.

Lulz

[Johnny Mac]

7 minutes ago, Toohotinbangkok said:

Lulz

 

Joking aside, I 'suffer' from what you get too. I don't have any real advice, except do not lay in bed for too long, you always feel better after getting up and having a shower.

[John435]

Quarantine?

[Broken Record]

 

Try this audiobook, I found it last year, on Saturday I’m one year without Alcohol.

 

Good luck. 


 

[chicowoodduck]

AA on Soi Skaw Beach Hotel is always looking for good customers....????????????

[desdeash]

Drinking isn't your problem, it's your solution. It fills your emptiness. erases that feeling inside of loneliness, molifies your fears. It's a great way to numb your feelings and hide from yourself. There's a way out, I hope you find it.

[chuang]

If feeling down gulp down a few more bottles..

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, chuang said:

If feeling down gulp down a few more bottles..

 

So many aywhole comments on this thread already...  A guy is asking for help... 

 

Why not either choose to offer help, or just stay silent ???

 

 

Op: Rehab can be expensive. Someone mentioned quarantine which isn’t a bad idea.

 

I think desdeash hit the nail on the head - easier said than done, find a hobby? 

As a starter, try going on some bike rides to the quiet areas...  

 

Make a hard and fast rule - avoid day time drinking.

If you do drink, stick to beer only, don’t hit spirits - this may help with the following day toxicity and panic issues. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

Hope Rehab

[ChrisKC]

Any kind of problem deserves some kind of plan to help mitigate and hopefully solve.

 

I am not an expert but I suggest you try something. Psychologically, this can be helpful in that you know you are aiming towards an improved situation and your stress levels will subside a little. YOU are the one that can do most and with some moral support you can achieve something modest in the short term.

 

Try to understand, by recording every time you take a drink, how much you are actually drinking and at what intervals. Do this for a week for example.

 

Then you decide that, say, each day you will NOT drink one or two of those interval drinks, thus reducing. If you can manage that, tell yourself this little plan is working

and that you have achieved. Feel a little pride, improve your self confidence, you are beating yourself - the most difficult one in the world!to beat!

 

It is a step process. When you are not drinking, your body is working towards healing itself. Help it along, give it less to deal with.

 

Success for me means achieving whatever I set out to do - however modest.

 

I know it isn't easy. But I wish you luck anyway.

 

Start today!

 

[Lacessit]

You are the only person that can decide you want to be in control of a drug, rather than the drug controlling you. No-one else can do it for you.

Drinking two glasses of water before you go to bed after drinking alcohol will help your body detox. The next step is to give your body a break by not drinking at all for one day, then extending that period. Or limiting yourself to one or two drinks.

I was a regular drinker, now I enjoy a couple of drinks on weekends, don't drink at all during the week.

Distract yourself with other activities. Hope this helps.

[Thai Dan]

On 4/7/2021 at 11:09 AM, Johnny Mac said:

I told myself that I should stop drinking, but then thought why listen to a drunk that talks to himself.

It might not be very helpful, but @Johnny Mac's joke had me laughing out loud none the less.

 

On a serious note, I quit drinking by going to a clinic/hospital in Yasothon, having consultation with an excellent doctor, getting all the tests and learning where my liver and other vitals stood, and then accepting their detox treatments for a few days.  The tests they carried out showed I was on the verge of liver problems and that convinced me to get off the juice or die an early death (I was still a hair under 50 years old then).  That was some 8 or 9 years ago and I haven't touched a drop since.

 

As @ChrisKCwrote, it is up to you.  At some point you have to realize each time you reach for a drink that if you take the drink, you harm yourself.  Nobody else can provide that motivation, only you.  The fact that you've reached out is an excellent sign.  I wish you luck.

[4MyEgo]

On 4/7/2021 at 1:33 PM, Toohotinbangkok said:

I am drinking alot more than usual lately and been getting these horrendous anxiety hangovers  where I'm next  bordering a panic attack, I wanna go some where near a beach, that's cool, and has access to a macro.

 

Sorry to say, things will only get worse unless you seek help, your probably saying yes I know that, that's why I want to go somewhere for two weeks, unfortunately I don't believe that will help, but hope I am wrong.

 

I lost my father and my brother (49) to the drink, and almost lost a really good mate to it, his case was mild, though he thought, 6 large bottles of beer a day and two bottle of red, yes per day, a dozen bottles of beer if he didn't have any red at home.

 

He saw a specialist who told him he had to sign into rehab and stay there while on medication and do some courses, he could sign out anytime he wanted to, but didn't, I think it was for a week or 2 at best, it's been 5 years now, still on the meds, only thing is, you have to be prepared to stop the drink, as he did, and I would say 99% of people wouldn't be prepared to do that, are you ?

 

It's a really ugly way to go when it gets a real hold of you, but if your not at that level, and don't want to get help or stop the drink, give it your best shot to only drink so many a day, that should be comfortable, and I'm not talking 14 bottles a day, I would think 3 bottles a day would be tops, but if you can't keep a handle on it, and don't seek help, then you know what in stall for you down the road.

 

Only talking from what I have seen with my own eyes, not to mention friends of friends that I met who are no longer here with us thanks to the drink.

 

I have one, two drinks a day, could down a few more, 3 is for when I am out but they are the small bottles, you see, I value my life after having seen the above losses, and at such young ages.

 

Cheers ????

[waynec78]

It seems many use the same words I did for many years before finally doing the best thing I ever did in my life. I went to a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous and thank God I have made one day a time since Sept 16, 1978. Yes, it is a lot of work and think of how much effort you put into your trying to hide your problem. You can look up on the internet anywhere in the world and in most cases find meetings available. The choice is always yours. Good luck and God bless

[ThaiAl]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

So many aywhole comments on this thread already...  A guy is asking for help... 

 

Why not either choose to offer help, or just stay silent ???

 

 

Op: Rehab can be expensive. Someone mentioned quarantine which isn’t a bad idea.

 

I think desdeash hit the nail on the head - easier said than done, find a hobby? 

As a starter, try going on some bike rides to the quiet areas...  

 

Make a hard and fast rule - avoid day time drinking.

If you do drink, stick to beer only, don’t hit spirits - this may help with the following day toxicity and panic issues. 

Well done with saying "just stay silent". I was asking myself also about the not serious answers!

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

Since closing our hotel, waiting for covid to phvck off, all the minibar stock is going out of date. I see it as my solemn duty to make sure it all gets drunk before the BBF date. This is a big plomplem.

[Acharn]

I'm surprised nobody else suggested it, but if you do a search on "aa bangkok" you should get a bunch of listings of meetings and telephone numbers. I would suggest going to an "open" meeting and see if you'd enjoy hanging out with the people there. If you can't stand them, I'd recommend you try one more meeting (different meeting) before you decide they're not for you. Some AA groups have a lot of what are called "Big Book Nazis," people who insist all the answers you need are in the basic AA book. The first meeting I went to was a bad experience, but I was in an Army rehab program, so had to find some group I could stand, and my second meeting was all people just like the ones I hung out with in the bars. Don't be put off by "the God stuff." Most of the AA's I've known are also recovering from some kind of religious upbringing. You may not find AA congenial, lots of people don't, but it worked wonderfully for me.

[Johnny Mac]

3 hours ago, desdeash said:

Drinking isn't your problem, it's your solution. It fills your emptiness. erases that feeling inside of loneliness, molifies your fears. It's a great way to numb your feelings and hide from yourself. There's a way out, I hope you find it.

 

Yep, that's me too, and I have ZERO problem admitting it. If I didn't drink, and I don't drink every day, I would have lost my mind years ago living here. What people do here who don't have a beer god only knows, go to temples, feed soi dogs? Damn awful, boring sweatbox this place. God's waiting room, no less.

[alien365]

What about going to a wellness hotel like Chiva Som in Hua Hin? It costs a bit but the change of atmosphere and routine might be just what you need. They have different packages like retreat or detox. 

[CharlieH]

27 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

 

Yep, that's me too, and I have ZERO problem admitting it. If I didn't drink, and I don't drink every day, I would have lost my mind years ago living here. What people do here who don't have a beer god only knows, go to temples, feed soi dogs? Damn awful, boring sweatbox this place. God's waiting room, no less.

Spend time on forums, or even Moderate them !

[Susco]

5 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Spend time on forums, or even Moderate them !

 

I thought that was the main reason why people started drinking

[CharlieH]

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

I thought that was the main reason why people started drinking

Yep, that usually follows after a few months, that or inventive chemistry ! ????

[robblok]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

So many aywhole comments on this thread already...  A guy is asking for help... 

 

Why not either choose to offer help, or just stay silent ???

 

 

Op: Rehab can be expensive. Someone mentioned quarantine which isn’t a bad idea.

 

I think desdeash hit the nail on the head - easier said than done, find a hobby? 

As a starter, try going on some bike rides to the quiet areas...  

 

Make a hard and fast rule - avoid day time drinking.

If you do drink, stick to beer only, don’t hit spirits - this may help with the following day toxicity and panic issues. 

Probably a lot of people who themselves don't want to admit they have a problem or that alcohol can be a problem so they joke when others admit to the problem. Sad really. 

[robblok]

44 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

 

Yep, that's me too, and I have ZERO problem admitting it. If I didn't drink, and I don't drink every day, I would have lost my mind years ago living here. What people do here who don't have a beer god only knows, go to temples, feed soi dogs? Damn awful, boring sweatbox this place. God's waiting room, no less.

Not everyone needs a beer.. though would be nice if cannabis would be legal. But plenty of things to do though now with lockdown even I someone who likes solitude starts to get bored.

 

Normally, going somewhere on the motorbike, working out in a gym, playing some computer games, seeing some friends. Thailand has really nice nature too. Fishing / diving stuff like that is fun too.I like it here a lot more then my own country. If its so boring why did you come here ? 

[jack71]

I remember a wellness detox resort being advertised on koh chang island last yr. You can probably find it on google. I had a problem yrs ago drinking too much socially. I got off it somehow and sometimes have a beer now and then. It tastes so good after abstaining. 

 

Good luck

[rcuthbert]

1 hour ago, Acharn said:

I'm surprised nobody else suggested it, but if you do a search on "aa bangkok" you should get a bunch of listings of meetings and telephone numbers. I would suggest going to an "open" meeting and see if you'd enjoy hanging out with the people there. If you can't stand them, I'd recommend you try one more meeting (different meeting) before you decide they're not for you. Some AA groups have a lot of what are called "Big Book Nazis," people who insist all the answers you need are in the basic AA book. The first meeting I went to was a bad experience, but I was in an Army rehab program, so had to find some group I could stand, and my second meeting was all people just like the ones I hung out with in the bars. Don't be put off by "the God stuff." Most of the AA's I've known are also recovering from some kind of religious upbringing. You may not find AA congenial, lots of people don't, but it worked wonderfully for me.

How could reading "Mien Kampf" keep people from drinking? Surely - Nazis are not permitted in AA?

[natway09]

I do not know where you are but there is a great detox/dry out clinic in Chiang Mai

& one run by Six Senses out of  Hua Hin

Charges from 1,400 to 3,500 Bht a day. That includes just about everything unless you need medication. But be warned they make you sign for a minimum of 12 days & you cannot leave or go out to buy anything. Both have a Doctor/Therapist available

[Lacessit]

13 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

 

Yep, that's me too, and I have ZERO problem admitting it. If I didn't drink, and I don't drink every day, I would have lost my mind years ago living here. What people do here who don't have a beer god only knows, go to temples, feed soi dogs? Damn awful, boring sweatbox this place. God's waiting room, no less.

Bangkok's status for me has always been a city I get through as rapidly as I can, on my way to Chiang Mai, now Chiang Rai. I don't understand why any foreigner would want to live there, except to work.

I'd probably have to start some serious drinking if I was somehow trapped there.