Vehicle Transfer with No Engine Number

[dennisgb45]

I am purchasing an older Jeep vehicle from another farang.  He is the original owner. When we took it to the inspection station to transfer title, we discovered that the engine ID tag was not on the engine.  We can't locate the engine ID. Yes, it is part of the VIN, however that is not good enough for Thai DMV. They need to see a tag or stamp on the engine block. There must be some way around this situation. Has anybody ever encountered this? If so, the remedy is???? Thanks.

[jvs]

There are options i think,but not many.

You may have to swap engines if there is no number to be found,when was the last time

they checked the engine number?(When the current owner bought it?)

 

 

[chickenslegs]

The engine number will be stamped into the block.

Have you tried googling "where is the engine number on my (insert make/model/year)"?

[Kwasaki]

I take it you have blue book so that will have the engine number.

Then find an engineering shop who will make up a plate for him.  

[Ralf001]

A set of number punches from hardwarehouse is not very expensive at all.

[ramrod711]

 https://www.facebook.com/groups/172159467467438/

 

Classic cars of Lanna may be able to help. Some of the guys have had to transplant engines to keep cars on the road. One fellow got a certificate from Maejo University engineering program. Can't hurt to try, and you may meet some good people.

[pedro01]

Walk away.

 

Or think of it like this:

- What's the best that can happen?

- What's the worst that can happen?

[Liverpool Lou]

23 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

The engine number will be stamped into the block.

Have you tried googling "where is the engine number on my (insert make/model/year)"?

And, if it has been removed, as seems to be the case, he should be asking the question, "why was it removed?".

[Liverpool Lou]

22 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I take it you have blue book so that will have the engine number.

Then find an engineering shop who will make up a plate for him.  

What if the engine is not the original, it's ok to make up a plate with an engine number that may not be the correct one, is it?  I'm sure that would be illegal.

 

Aren't engine numbers generally stamped into the block, not on a screwed/riveted-on plate?

Edited April 29, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What if the engine is not the original, it's ok to make up a plate with an engine number that may not be the correct one, is it?  I'm sure that would be illegal.

 

Aren't engine numbers generally stamped into the block, not on a screwed/riveted-on plate?

Not always, as usual OP's ask questions without much info because he said with no number on the engine I'm assuming its an old ex-army jeep and they had plates mounted and it's probably fell off. There's a few Willy's jeeps in our village.

I reckon they should see the DLT boss guy if it has a blue book. 

[Liverpool Lou]

10 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I'm assuming its an old ex-army jeep and they had plates mounted and it's probably fell off.

Aren't engine numbers generally stamped into the block, not on a screwed/riveted-on plate?

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Aren't engine numbers generally stamped into the block, not on a screwed/riveted-on plate?

No not on old war time jeeps.

[northsouthdevide]

Its up to the owner of the jeep to find a solution, not the buyer.

If the owner stamps a number onto the engine, then sells the jeep, then the buyer has done nothing wrong.

That's assuming that the jeep is 100% legitimate, otherwise, just look for a model that has its paperwork in order.

[Yellowtail]

18 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Not always, as usual OP's ask questions without much info because he said with no number on the engine I'm assuming its an old ex-army jeep and they had plates mounted and it's probably fell off. There's a few Willy's jeeps in our village.

I reckon they should see the DLT boss guy if it has a blue book. 

 

Give the OP is buying from the original owner it's a good bet it's not a Willys or any ex-army jeep.

 

I think the OP should do a little research to determine:

   1. Is it the original engine

   2. Where is the engine number(s) located that the particular engine he has.

 

 

 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Give the OP is buying from the original owner it's a good bet it's not a Willys or any ex-army jeep.

 

I think the OP should do a little research to determine:

   1. Is it the original engine

   2. Where is the engine number(s) located that the particular engine he has.

 

We don't know what it is I'm just assuming things from what the OP's has posted.

Has it got a blue book ? --- What make is it ? --- Has the jeep been taxed and insured ? ---  more info wanted.

Edited April 30, 2021 by Kwasaki

[Liverpool Lou]

17 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

22 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Aren't engine numbers generally stamped into the block, not on a screwed/riveted-on plate?

No not on old war time jeeps.

He said he's buying it from the original owner and has not mentioned that it's a WWII vehicle so there's practically no chance that it's that old.

 

It's be nice if he came back to clarify, though.

Edited April 30, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[AlfHuy]

On 4/28/2021 at 3:54 PM, Ralf001 said:

A set of number punches from hardwarehouse is not very expensive at all.

I did that but now, it's leaking oil everywhere.

Is that normal?????

[Ralf001]

16 minutes ago, AlfHuy said:

I did that but now, it's leaking oil everywhere.

Is that normal?????

 

Prolly shoulda used a smaller hammer !!

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's be nice if he came back to clarify, though.

Yeah agree would be of interest to know.

 

There's quite a few American ex-army jeeps knocking about around locally where we live. 

[alacrity]

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He said he's buying it from the original owner and has not mentioned that it's a WWII vehicle so there's practically no chance that it's that old.

 

It's be nice if he came back to clarify, though.

Probably, meant the original owner "from the time of 'original' registration in Thailand. Not the US (gov't). So, the engine number registered, should match what's on the motor fitted to the vehicle.

 

Fitting a different/new motor would require a witnessed ' transfer of numbers at a DLT. A process which includes a 're-stamp' of a crate motor with the original number. Basically, that's the process. I intend to change a motor in a truck and that's what I've been told, to legally facilitate the swap.

I've also been told of agents, whom can facilitate a suitable result of such problematic issues.

 

I avoid such solutions and would purchase the Op's stated vehicle, only with the caveat, that the current owner, resolves the (registration) issue first.