Chonburi Covid-19 cases steeply rise to 127 after new clusters found at factory and migrant worker camp

[webfact]

 

By Adam Judd

 

Chonburi – The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 127 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today, May 21st, which is a major jump in cases from having 65 yesterday. Chonburi has significantly stepped up testing at industrial estates and workplaces in the province, which is a major reason cases rose due to findings in related workplaces.

 

This makes a total of 4,001 cases of Covid-19 in the current round of infections, with 965 still in medical care, with a total of sixteen recorded deaths in Chonburi since the start of this recent round of infections in early April.

 

Additionally, 3,020 people in total have now been released from medical care and fully recovered since this current wave began. 117 people were released yesterday.

 

The district-level new cases were as follows today:

 

Mueang Chonburi with 40, Si Racha 14, Banglamung (including Pattaya) 9, Phanat Nikhom 2, Sattahip 3, Ban Bueng 5, Pan Thong 52, Ko Chan 1, and one patient was transferred from another province to Chonburi for medical care.

 

The details on today’s cases given were:

A cluster from a single factory with 86 cases

A migrant worker camp cluster with 9 cases

1 close contact from a confirmed case from Bangkok

Close contacts of previous patients

In families, 15 cases

In workplaces, 9 cases

Close contact under investigation 7 cases.

 

Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/21/chonburi-covid-19-cases-steeply-rise-to-127-after-new-clusters-found-at-factory-and-migrant-worker-camp/

 

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[colinneil]

Interesting to see if Danderman123 comments on this thread.

He has been spouting off for many days how the virus is past its peak.

[Excel]

26 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Interesting to see if Danderman123 comments on this thread.

He has been spouting off for many days how the virus is past its peak.

That's why he is on my ignore list. Not sure why he is still on here with his misleading and erroneous comments.

However they continue to find "new clusters".  All they are actually finding is additional people infected due to poor numbers of tests and non existent random testing.  Of course if you go to say one tiny area in one province and find a few infected they will call it a cluster. When in actual fact had they had done nationwide random testing  as they were advised to do then no doubt those clusters may well have become a lot more than just an isolated cluster.

[morrobay]

29 minutes ago, Excel said:

.  All they are actually finding is additional people infected due to poor numbers of tests

 

 

And again and again: in crowded indoor, indoor/outdoor poorly ventilated environments with multiple and prolonged exposures. And among groups that have various risk factors.

[pvdb]

25 minutes ago, morrobay said:

And again and again: in crowded indoor, indoor/outdoor poorly ventilated environments with multiple and prolonged exposures. And among groups that have various risk factors.

i call irresponsible behaviour from those factory managers if one find 86 cases and not act upon this... no offense for migrants but all people know how they cluster together

[sandyf]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Interesting to see if Danderman123 comments on this thread.

He has been spouting off for many days how the virus is past its peak.

If you want to think that 127 is greater than 153 that is up to you.

[bkk6060]

Happy seeing the number, but hard to believe Pattaya at 9.

There are a bunch of these worker camps here now building condos and hotels.

The living conditions look very poor so who knows until they test more.

I do seem them going into 7-11's, buying street food, etc so it is not like they are restricted.

[sandyf]

2 minutes ago, pvdb said:

i call irresponsible behaviour from those factory managers if one find 86 cases and not act upon this... no offense for migrants but all people know how they cluster together

Not just factories. In the first large increase of 141 on April 10th nearly 100 were out of the Flintstones Pub, fairly predictable that was going to cause problems. At least with a factory there is some knowledge on who the people are.

Entertainment venues have been a root problem all along, the boxing stadium saga now a distant memory.

[RobMuir]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Interesting to see if Danderman123 comments on this thread.

He has been spouting off for many days how the virus is past its peak.

Well I hope he is right. And I am sure you hope that also Colin. You would like to be proven wrong surely.

 

This headline sounds bad, because that's how headline writers write,  but in reality it is only 60 extra people.

 

This English covid strain had huge fast growth in the UK, in Europe and the USA where an extra 60 cases would not have even been noticed and where they counted in tens of thousands, not in tens.

 

Reading your comments it appears you want to see the numbers go up so you can be proven right, but I know you wouldn't really want that, would you?

 

No deaths are good but for a large province 16 deaths, all of who had underlying health issues or were 80+ years old, over 18 months is a very good result.

Don't you think?

 

 

 

[RobMuir]

10 minutes ago, sandyf said:

If you want to think that 127 is greater than 153 that is up to you.

Please don't let facts get in the way of Thai bashing ranters.

They will have nothing to do all day. They might actually feel content, or even worse, happy.

[Leaver]

I suspect testing stops when the amount of positive cases equals the amount of beds available in the field hospitals.  

 

Edited May 21, 2021 by Leaver

[sandyf]

13 minutes ago, RobMuir said:

This headline sounds bad, because that's how headline writers write,  but in reality it is only 60 extra people.

This English covid strain had huge fast growth in the UK, in Europe and the USA where an extra 60 cases would not have even been noticed and where they counted in tens of thousands, not in tens.

 

Exactly. From April 9th to 10th there was a jump of 107, a lot more than today but forgotten by the media. Since 1st April about 4000 cases in 50 days, about 80/day. the level today is less than 6 weeks ago so fair to say a plateau, hopefully tomorrow is no different.

[Susco]

24 minutes ago, sandyf said:

If you want to think that 127 is greater than 153 that is up to you.

 

It is almost double of the 65 cases the day before, which was already a doubling of the 39 cases the day before that..

 

Bit strange to me that they found the lowest infections ever, just the day before the decision was made if restrictions in Chonburi would eased or not. Since that day the numbers have started increasing every day but 1.

 

Maybe they "forgot" to test on the 15th.

 

Don't worry, your 153 number will come to a location near you soon again

[sandyf]

11 minutes ago, Susco said:

Don't worry, your 153 number will come to a location near you soon again

Without a doubt if they do not keep the pubs shut.

The heart of the first big cluster was the Flintstones Pub, not far away.

[Susco]

2 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Without a doubt if they do not keep the pubs shut.

The heart of the first big cluster was the Flintstones Pub, not far away.

 

The majority of todays number is from a single factory. That are not migrant workers, but people with a family that go home every day, and have a social life.

 

And if you believe that there is only 1 factory infected, then you live in dreamworld, it is just 1 factory that has been tested, out of hundreds if not thousands.

 

Those 86 workers have in the meantime already infected hundreds more, or do you think they all got infected yesterday at 9am?

[Leaver]

24 minutes ago, sandyf said:

If you want to think that 127 is greater than 153 that is up to you.

 

127 is 3.25 times greater than the 39 reported on Wednesday.  

 

Rubbery figures aside, based on this small amount of data, the curve is on the way up.  

[cclub75]

2 hours ago, morrobay said:

And again and again: in crowded indoor, indoor/outdoor poorly ventilated environments with multiple and prolonged exposures. And among groups that have various risk factors.

 

Indeed.

 

And let's not forget regarding the infected at national level... among the 42 246 "still being treated in hospitals" (source Thai PBS)... 1 213 are "severe cases"... and among those  1 213, only 405 are on ventilators (ICUs).

 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2021 by cclub75

[Ireland32]

Why is BKK not locked down , just spreading to Pattaya 

[Deli]

These worker's camps have a density like a prison, with the difference tha tit would be easy to resolve this - IF - there wouldn't be the greed of their employers but some humanity.

Same in factories. Why not working in shifts with less people per shift and more room for everybody? But no, they continue working shoulder on shoulder and who knows how many illegal workers who sneaked in without being tested are in the line ?

If the local Government really wants to stop it, they must to look into these little details.

[sandyf]

5 hours ago, Susco said:

 

The majority of todays number is from a single factory. That are not migrant workers, but people with a family that go home every day, and have a social life.

 

And if you believe that there is only 1 factory infected, then you live in dreamworld, it is just 1 factory that has been tested, out of hundreds if not thousands.

 

Those 86 workers have in the meantime already infected hundreds more, or do you think they all got infected yesterday at 9am?

You should refrain from posting false information. I never said or implied anything like you have posted. A post that is insulting and as such breaches forum rules.

"And if you believe that there is only 1 factory infected, then you live in dreamworld,"

 

You are perfectly free to believe the Chonburi problems did not arise from the 100 or so cases found in the Flintstones Pub on the 9th April.

 

[sandyf]

5 hours ago, Leaver said:

127 is 3.25 times greater than the 39 reported on Wednesday.  

But less than the 141 reported on 10th April.

Of course you are free to choose the ups whenever you want, been several over the last 6 weeks to choose from, with as many downs.

According to the experts, cases have exponentially risen from 141 on the 10th of April to 127 on 21st May, or wasn't that the term used most of April.

[Leaver]

7 hours ago, sandyf said:

But less than the 141 reported on 10th April.

Of course you are free to choose the ups whenever you want, been several over the last 6 weeks to choose from, with as many downs.

According to the experts, cases have exponentially risen from 141 on the 10th of April to 127 on 21st May, or wasn't that the term used most of April.

 

How many close contacts would the 127 infected people have? 

 

I'm thinking, maybe, 10 each, minimum, and how many close contacts would those 10 close contacts have etc etc?   

[Jeffr2]

20 hours ago, Susco said:

 

The majority of todays number is from a single factory. That are not migrant workers, but people with a family that go home every day, and have a social life.

 

And if you believe that there is only 1 factory infected, then you live in dreamworld, it is just 1 factory that has been tested, out of hundreds if not thousands.

 

Those 86 workers have in the meantime already infected hundreds more, or do you think they all got infected yesterday at 9am?

Well put.  As the article states, it's actually 2 migrant camps, and they are out mass testing more camps.  Guaranteed they'll find more cases.  They just don't do enough testing to find all the cases.

 

And now?  The Indian variant is here.  Firmly, with several dozen cases found in Bangkok.  Scary.

 

 

[hotchilli]

23 hours ago, webfact said:

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 127 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today, May 21st, which is a major jump in cases from having 65 yesterday. Chonburi has significantly stepped up testing at industrial estates and workplaces in the province, which is a major reason cases rose due to findings in related workplaces.

Seek and you will find, the more testing the more the numbers go up... daily numbers are a fraction of what is walking around the streets.

[BestB]

Selfish of me to say but wohooo Pattaya , only 9 cases

[Jeffr2]

11 minutes ago, BestB said:

Selfish of me to say but wohooo Pattaya , only 9 cases

That they know of!  Guaranteed, it's many times that.

[Jeffr2]

For @Sheryl

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/21/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask#who-covid-deaths-excess

 

Deaths from Covid-19 and Covid-related causes are likely to be two to three times the number that countries have recorded in their official data, the World Health Organization said on Friday.

 

Some six to eight million people may have now died from Covid-19 or its effects since the start of the pandemic, compared with 3.4 million deaths recorded in countries’ official reporting, Dr. Samira Asma, assistant director of the W.H.O.’s data division, told reporters.

 

The W.H.O. also estimates that at least three million people may have died from Covid-19 in 2020, compared with 1.8 million recorded in official data, the W.H.O. reported in annual statistics released on Friday.

Edited May 22, 2021 by Jeffr2

[NaamGin]

One thing that bothers me about the spikes in "cases" of covid is that they never report how many of these people are asymptomatic... Many people have already built the antibodies against the virus, yet still test positive for the virus... Many people report that they had no idea that they had the virus as they demonstrate no symptoms and have no fever... 

[Jeffr2]

46 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

One thing that bothers me about the spikes in "cases" of covid is that they never report how many of these people are asymptomatic... Many people have already built the antibodies against the virus, yet still test positive for the virus... Many people report that they had no idea that they had the virus as they demonstrate no symptoms and have no fever... 

And thus, the problem with this virus.  You can have NO symptoms and be spreading it around to your family and friends.  Who might get sick, end up in the hospital, or die.  You can even get the virus if you're fully vaccinated, and spread it around.

[NaamGin]

14 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

And thus, the problem with this virus.  You can have NO symptoms and be spreading it around to your family and friends.  Who might get sick, end up in the hospital, or die.  You can even get the virus if you're fully vaccinated, and spread it around.

 

There is still a debate on whether asymptomatic transfer of this virus is actually taking place... For the sake of discussion, let's say that asymptomatic transfer does take place and people who have this virus and do not show symptoms can transfer it to other people... How is this virus different than every other virus that the populace has experienced throughout history? The most vulnerable segment of society for covid19 are the elderly that have other co-morbidities...  The same can be said for every respiratory illness through history... If you examine the cause of death for many elderly people you will find what actually kills them in the end is pneumonia, even if they have other illnesses that led them to being hospitalized... 

 

This is the first time in history that the entire planet has been locked down for the sake of preventing the transfer of a respiratory illness Instead of protecting those most susceptible to this virus and by all estimation it has not worked because the virus continues to spread... The impact to global economies and the livelihoods of people everywhere has been impacted due to the draconian measures to stop it's spread... And all for a virus which has a 99.9% survival rate if you do catch it... 

 

Your final sentence is quite telling, is a vaccine actually a vaccine when it does not prevent you from catching the virus and transmitting it to others?