US expats plead for vaccine help in viral Thailand

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, mberbae said:

Most posts have missed the point entirely.

The US Government is NOT vaccinating US

Citizens in Thailand for the Simple reason it

has NOT been given permission to do so by

the Thai Government. My Australian neighbor

was told the Same when she called Her Embassy

in Bangkok last week.

Only the CHINESE have been allowed to vaccinate

its citizens here.

 

 

Has the U.S. government actually asked Thailand for such a thing?  I think not.

 

Has the U.S. government donated to Thailand the vaccines that would be used for such a program. I think not.

 

Is there any reason Thailand would deny a request from the U.S. government for something it's already granted permission to China for? I think not.

 

Edited May 31, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

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9 minutes ago, Ginner said:

What is it about Americans, they usually expect/demand countries to bend over backwards to accommodate them. I am registered for the vaccine in Thailand, I will wait until I'm called forward to receive the jab. I'm not going to demand the Brit Embassy vaccinate me. Have the same problem with Americans teaching in Thailand, only their way is the correct way and demand everyone knows it.

Well, actually Thailand should welcome Americans getting vaccinated by their own country. That takes the burden off Thailand and increases the number of people who are vaccinated and resistant to covid-19.

[atpeace]

Funny, how angry people get when you add American or US.  Simple minded people.  This thread is on fire because US is in the Title.  Calm down haters we aren't really that important.  Being insecure is no fun and hope you move past it.

 

Americans have a large embassy here and most just want to discus the possibly of getting vaccinated at the our embassy.  Hell, I've stated many time that I can wait patiently to get the jab here in Thailand.  The next hater then tells me to go home??? Why, I just stated I can wait...  My feeling are hurt.

[AndyFoxy]

22 minutes ago, Ginner said:

What is it about Americans, they usually expect/demand countries to bend over backwards to accommodate them. I am registered for the vaccine in Thailand, I will wait until I'm called forward to receive the jab. I'm not going to demand the Brit Embassy vaccinate me. Have the same problem with Americans teaching in Thailand, only their way is the correct way and demand everyone knows it.

It's okay. I like Americans.. But not the woke kind.

 If it wasn't for Americans, I probably wouldn't be vaxxed by now. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ibtg68]

I spent my whole career working for local government back in the US and one thing I learned was not to rely on the government to take care of anybody or anything other than itself. 

[thesetat2013]

12 hours ago, nattaya09 said:

There's no shortage in the US. I had my choice of Pfizer, Moderna or J&J at the corner pharmacy last week without waiting. It would seem the embassy's should be getting sufficient supply to provide to the citizens abroad.

Just remember.. the American government has quoted saying they will send 100s of thousand of doses to other countries free.. yet they refuse to send one dose to any american not in the USA at this time. A big slap on the face at how China takes care of its people compared to the USA. But in the end.. nothing will be changed to help those americans on Thai soil. 

[ExpatOne]

As an American, I’m not pleading for anything. I know the US only wants our tax dollars with giving us anything in return. (Also known as a scam or robbery)

[bunnydrops]

What? You want the west to follow a socialist country like China and take care of its people? Come on, us westerners and grab those bootstraps and start lifting. ????

[Toscano]

All foreigners living in Thailand have been offered vaccination . Americans are no different to anyone else , they can wait their turn with the rest of us . Why is it that Americans raise the ire by seeing themselves as exclusively special , they are spoiled brats , fly home if you don't feel safe in Thailand . 

[Blumpie]

1 minute ago, Toscano said:

All foreigners living in Thailand have been offered vaccination . Americans are no different to anyone else , they can wait their turn with the rest of us . Why is it that Americans raise the ire by seeing themselves as exclusively special , they are spoiled brats , fly home if you don't feel safe in Thailand . 

That's all that one can pretty much do.

Thankfully at the G7 they are talking about the strategy of getting everyone on the planet inoculated by the end of 2022.  Doable, but very ambitious and would take a lot of work.  I"m sorry to say but third world countries would come first, now second world like Thailand.  

There's only one way out of this.  Lockdowns or vaccinations.  If vaccinations are absent then what's the other choice?  

[mtls2005]

2 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

If the embassy were to violate the countries sovereignty and smuggle in the vaccine through diplomatic pouch, she does not even know if there is any that would handle the required cryogenic storage temperatures required for such vaccines.

 

This is all gibberish.

 

Embassy staff have already been vaccinated with Pfizer, which the Embassy had delivered from the U.S.

 

Yes, we understand that the Embassy cannot adminster vaccines. The U.S. could donate vaccines to Thailand, with the provision that a portion are administered by Thai facilities to Americans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

14 minutes ago, Toscano said:

All foreigners living in Thailand have been offered vaccination...

 

Yes, with potentially unavailable vaccines from unspecified/unknown locations that are being promised to become available at some unknown/unspecified future dates.

 

Ya, that makes me feel so much better knowing just what's going on....

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

20 minutes ago, Toscano said:

 Americans are no different to anyone else , they can wait their turn with the rest of us .

 

So I presume you'd be saying the same thing to the entire Chinese nationals population in Thailand that is already being vaccinated by the Thai government with Chinese donated vaccines?

Edited May 31, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

49 minutes ago, ibtg68 said:

I spent my whole career working for local government back in the US and one thing I learned was not to rely on the government to take care of anybody or anything other than itself. 

 

So perhaps you'd like to explain just who it's been that organized and executed vaccination efforts that thus far in the U.S. have managed to fully vaccinate 40 percent of the entire country's population... as opposed to the less than 2 percent thus far in Thailand.

 

I too worked in government in the U.S. for many years, and while not perfect by any means, the institutions certainly have the capacity to do good and effective work, depending on what kinds of leadership (on the competence to incompetence scale) are pulling the strings at any given time.

[bkkcanuck8]

18 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

This is all gibberish.

 

Embassy staff have already been vaccinated with Pfizer, which the Embassy had delivered from the U.S.

 

Yes, we understand that the Embassy cannot adminster vaccines. The U.S. could donate vaccines to Thailand, with the provision that a portion are administered by Thai facilities to Americans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was the conversation I had with my sister, while she was waiting for vaccination while on posting (which was available at home).  People are pretending that all the government has to do is send it to the Embassy without regards to local sovereignty...  and yes, it could all be resolved by negotiating with authorities...  BTW, she has now finally received the vaccination (required before travelling back and forth from HQ and a new posting). The embassy does not have any facilities to store, and administer the vaccine without without local approval.   The country has a duty to make sure their staff are vaccinated as it is the government that posts them and the job requires (in many cases) contact with locals (otherwise they could just work remotely from their home country). 

 

Expats that have travel can wait their turn locally... They have chosen to live here, in Thailand's jurisdiction...  I am not against foreign aid/help... so if the US wants to offer help in the way of vaccine supplies to help Thailand catch up to the US in their vaccination program, I am sure Thailand would show their gratitude... but sending supplies over just to vaccinate American citizens while ignoring the wider community... if I were in government, I would not implement such a program.  You can wait.

Edited May 31, 2021 by bkkcanuck8

[sqwakvfr]

Can we stop this now.  The US Embassy will not vaccinate anyone of us.

 

 

Edited May 31, 2021 by sqwakvfr

[oslooskar]

6 hours ago, starky said:

So could refusing the free vaccine the Thai government is offering you. Beggars can't be choosers.

Apparently you have me confused with someone else because no one has offered me a vaccine, free or otherwise.

[oslooskar]

3 hours ago, Thomas J said:

No question the mindset was better 70 years ago when Americans didn't think they were "entitled" to everything. 

As if such feelings of entitlement never existed in the British Empire.

[Joinaman]

Any yanks here in Thailand died from this Covid yet ?

[malibukid]

4 hours ago, gearbox said:

If you are not happy with Thailand and the Thai government you can phone your embassy and request regime change. After all they are experts in election rigging, subversion and regime changes, not in vaccinations. Let them do what they do best ????

as of today 40% of the U.S. population has been vaccinated.  yes i know that there has been nearly 600k deaths in the U.S., but le'ts stay on point here.  their vaccination rollout has been a success.  Thailand by comparison has been an inept failure 

Edited May 31, 2021 by malibukid

[phills2k1]

1 hour ago, AndyFoxy said:

It's okay. I like Americans.. But not the woke kind.

 If it wasn't for Americans, I probably wouldn't be vaxxed by now.

 

You mean people with empathy and understanding towards others

 

The only good thing to come from the trump era is that people like you ALWAYS make yourselves known

[phills2k1]

Is it possible for someone to start a new topic with this article?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/22/britons-left-stranded-by-japans-slow-vaccine-rollout

 

"Briton Expats Frustrated London Isn't Helping with Vaccines"

 

Thanks

[AndyFoxy]

7 minutes ago, phills2k1 said:

You mean people with empathy and understanding towards others

 

The only good thing to come from the trump era is that people like you ALWAYS make yourselves known

Oh dear, looks like shattered white fragility.

And a racist as well.

Apologise for your white privilege boy.

Edited May 31, 2021 by AndyFoxy

[AndyFoxy]

12 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

I'm sorry to hear that. I guess they have much lower expectations of their government.

No,,,,,they just don’t live in Pixiedustland

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1 hour ago, Toscano said:

All foreigners living in Thailand have been offered vaccination . Americans are no different to anyone else , they can wait their turn with the rest of us . Why is it that Americans raise the ire by seeing themselves as exclusively special , they are spoiled brats , fly home if you don't feel safe in Thailand . 

What does Americans wanting to get vaccines from their government have to do with you? Ya'd think other people would be sensible enough to realize that if Americans are getting vaccinated from their government, they won't be competing with others for the vaccines that are available here. What's more, they would be getting more effective vaccines that will help reduce transmission faster.

Your attitude and others like it remind me of a little Russian parable. It goes like this:

God appears before a farmer and tells him he'll give the farmer anything he wants, but he'll give his neighbor twice as much. The farmer thinks about it a bit and says to God, "Make me blind in one eye."

[malibukid]

4 hours ago, mberbae said:

Most posts have missed the point entirely.

The US Government is NOT vaccinating US

Citizens in Thailand for the Simple reason it

has NOT been given permission to do so by

the Thai Government. My Australian neighbor

was told the Same when she called Her Embassy

in Bangkok last week.

Only the CHINESE have been allowed to vaccinate

its citizens here.

ha, shows you where Thailand's priorities lie. oiseaux d'une plume

Edited May 31, 2021 by malibukid

[phills2k1]

US expats aren't looking to jump any line. When a "Thai first" policy was announced, almost every single one on here and that I know was OK with it.

 

This is only even a topic of conversation because of the government not allowing ALL expats to purchase vaccines private hospitals until much later this year. You know, something that almost every expat here has taken issue with.  THAT should be the focus

 

But sure, if it's easier for the people who are "anti-woke" and others to be so sensitive that they take issue with people desiring help from the embassy of the country that they've paid heavy taxes to for however many years, then so be it

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1 hour ago, AndyFoxy said:

It's okay. I like Americans.. But not the woke kind.

 If it wasn't for Americans, I probably wouldn't be vaxxed by now. 

I like most people except the ones obsessed with whether others are woke or not.

[AndyFoxy]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I like most people except the ones obsessed with whether others are woke or not.

And those who obsess over those those who are obsessed whether others are woke or not.

[phills2k1]

4 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Oh dear, looks like shattered white fragility.

And a racist as well.

Apologise for your white privilege boy.

These are actually words you typed and submitted

 

And what's amazing is, you have no idea how you look to others. In fact, you think you crushed it