Durian and Alcohol-Beware!

[fangless]

She Who Must Be Obeyed (SWMBO) brought home some durian last night and proceeded to eat some.  When I asked where was mine I was told quite emphatically that I could not have any until breakfast time as I was drinking beer and that it was dangerous to eat Durian whilst drinking.

I assumed this was some old wives tale but this morning I turned to Mr Google and lo and behold there appears to be an element of truth in her assertion.

Has anyone ever heard of this before or suffered any side effects when combining the two?

 

Is It Safe to Drink Alcohol After Eating Durian? Here's What We Found Out - WORLD OF BUZZ

 

 

 

 

Edited June 2, 2021 by fangless

[KhunBENQ]

Like the cartoon ????

Heard about it but thought it was much exaggerated?

 

[DavidH555]

I've heard there is some truth to it.

There is an amazing page on Instagram called "durianwriter" . 

[bermondburi]

There was a study done by a Japanese university into this years ago. And whilst it's true that there is an enzyme present in durian that inhibits the body's ability to break down alcohol, you would have to be consuming alcohol in high concentrations, and at a rapid pace before it became dangerous. So unless you're knocking back neat spirits at rapid pace, which let's face it, could be dangerous anyway, then you've got nothing to worry about.

 

Thais who don't know any better have bought into the idea that any alcohol and durian is lethal and will kill you. 

 

I'm living proof that it won't. The disgusting, and I really do mean disgusting here, smelly s h **Ts on the toilet the next day, after a few beers and 3 or 4 pieces of durian will certainly come close though!! 

 

Some horrendous smelling poos. 

 

 

[chicowoodduck]

Just another bit of fake news so your bride can drink more....????

[fittobethaied]

It's absolutely true! About 30 years ago when I used to be a heavy drinker, I combined durian with several whiskeys and soda, and the next day I woke up sicker than I have even been in my life. It was only then that I was told I shouldn't have mixed the two. My current wife says the same thing, but since I no longer drink alcohol, I don't have to worry!

[Cake Monster]

Any Fruit combined with Alcohol will be a problem.

The Sugars that are omni-present in all Fruits will turn into Alcohol in the Gut while being digested.

Remember Fruit Punches ?

[Lacessit]

On 6/3/2021 at 1:58 AM, bermondburi said:

 

Some horrendous smelling poos. 

 

 

TMI.

I can imagine red wine and durian would be a disgusting combination.

One of the most dangerous medications to take with alcohol is paracetamol, found in most painkillers here. Can cause acute liver damage.

[Falcon]

The OP’s wife is correct. Alcohol and durian do not mix as the durian on top of alcohol creates a very bad and often deadly form of gas in the stomach and can trigger many side effects. Over the years, I have seen and heard of quite a few deaths caused by consuming the 2 together.

[BenDeCosta]

 

2 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

It's absolutely true! About 30 years ago when I used to be a heavy drinker, I combined durian with several whiskeys and soda, and the next day I woke up sicker than I have even been in my life. It was only then that I was told I shouldn't have mixed the two. My current wife says the same thing, but since I no longer drink alcohol, I don't have to worry!

 

One day I went jet-skiing, and later that day I had a headache. So jet-skiing causes headaches by your logic.

 

Thai people believe all kinds of rubbish. They turn their phones off when it's raining, they believe in ghosts and black magic, they think that eating durian and drinking a beer will kill you, they think that if their product isn't selling, then they need to raise the price to make up for a lack of customers. It's because all of the money the government provides for education vanishes into thin air.

Edited June 4, 2021 by BenDeCosta

[internationalism]

even just eating durian in excess will make us sick.

mixed with poisons, as pure alcohol is, is risky.

you won't know, until you try on yourself.

probably in the morning, so you will have time to run to hospital in emergency

[BenDeCosta]

7 minutes ago, internationalism said:

even just eating durian in excess will make us sick.

mixed with poisons, as pure alcohol is, is risky.

you won't know, until you try on yourself.

probably in the morning, so you will have time to run to hospital in emergency

 

I drunk a dozen pints of beer then eaten a very toxic looking lamb donner kebab, and apart from being hungover, I always survived. I doubt that durian is any worse than a late-night donner kebab.

 

But by some of the logic touted here, it was the donner kebab that made my hangover worse, not the gallons of booze.

Edited June 4, 2021 by BenDeCosta

[internationalism]

you can get sick from eating durian in excess. Contain sulphur or such.

Possibly causing body to stop metabolise alcohol, so it accumulates. Similar to disulfiram effect in pharmocology 

[BenDeCosta]

5 minutes ago, internationalism said:

you can get sick from eating durian in excess. Contain sulphur or such.

Possibly causing body to stop metabolise alcohol, so it accumulates. Similar to disulfiram effect in pharmocology 

 

The sulphurous compounds in durian are not comparable to disulfiram at all. Maybe enough to cause some skin-flushing or additional nausea, but unless you're talking about a lot of durian and a lot of alcohol, it's not something that you need to worry about.

 

You can eat a few pieces of durian and then go out and have a few beers, and you'll be fine, I know because I've done it.

Edited June 4, 2021 by BenDeCosta

[internationalism]

good to know. Just distant comparison. Probably not worth trying. Might take away pleasure of eating and pleasure of drinking

[BenDeCosta]

2 minutes ago, internationalism said:

good to know. Just distant comparison. Probably not worth trying. Might take away pleasure of eating and pleasure of drinking

 

Well, I don't get any pleasure from eating durian, nor do I get any pleasure from drinking Thai beers.

[jack71]

On 6/3/2021 at 1:58 AM, bermondburi said:

There was a study done by a Japanese university into this years ago. And whilst it's true that there is an enzyme present in durian that inhibits the body's ability to break down alcohol, you would have to be consuming alcohol in high concentrations, and at a rapid pace before it became dangerous. So unless you're knocking back neat spirits at rapid pace, which let's face it, could be dangerous anyway, then you've got nothing to worry about.

 

Thais who don't know any better have bought into the idea that any alcohol and durian is lethal and will kill you. 

 

I'm living proof that it won't. The disgusting, and I really do mean disgusting here, smelly s h **Ts on the toilet the next day, after a few beers and 3 or 4 pieces of durian will certainly come close though!! 

 

Some horrendous smelling poos. 

 

 

You're a classy guy

[elliss]

1 hour ago, BenDeCosta said:

 

Well, I don't get any pleasure from eating durian, nor do I get any pleasure from drinking Thai beers.

 

      Wow , great news .

      You are a kindler ?.

[GreasyFingers]

On 6/2/2021 at 8:05 AM, fangless said:

Has anyone ever heard of this before or suffered any side effects when combining the two?

Typical wife suggestion so they can keep the durian to themselves. Every time I have beer and the wife has durian she tells me. Not that they go together but have never had any adverse affect having both.

[bermondburi]

Too many people here seem to believe everything their wives say. Because they're right about everything right??????????

 

How about being a man and saying to the wife, you know what, I'll just try a bit and see how I feel. 

 

Grow some!

[SiSePuede419]

Alcohol is the World's Most Dangerous Drug because the "recreational" dosage typically consumed by Alcoholics is very, very close to the fatal dosage.

 

I used to live near a University that was famous for its party, drinking scene.

 

Almost every year one or two people died after drinking "games". ????

[fangless]

52 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

Too many people here seem to believe everything their wives say. Because they're right about everything right??????????

 

How about being a man and saying to the wife, you know what, I'll just try a bit and see how I feel. 

 

Grow some!

 

I suggest you actually read my OP in full, especially the bit about Mr. Google, and not just the headline!

 

Edited June 4, 2021 by fangless

[fangless]

4 hours ago, internationalism said:

even just eating durian in excess will make us sick.

mixed with poisons, as pure alcohol is, is risky.

you won't know, until you try on yourself.

probably in the morning, so you will have time to run to hospital in emergency

Have you been experimenting with an excess of Durian and alcohol by any chance before that post?

[internationalism]

4 minutes ago, fangless said:

Have you been experimenting with an excess of Durian and alcohol by any chance before that post?

no, but it's you, who wanted to know and ask questions.

I did give you reply and also advised to try experiment

[fangless]

36 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Alcohol is the World's Most Dangerous Drug because the "recreational" dosage typically consumed by Alcoholics is very, very close to the fatal dosage.

 

I used to live near a University that was famous for its party, drinking scene.

 

Almost every year one or two people died after drinking "games". ????

I have never drunk a "game"! what does it taste like?

 

 

 

[natway09]

There is some truth in the chemistry

Beer is not too bad with a little durian, but I would advise to be careful drinking too much gin

[clivebaxter]

No foreigner in their right mind would want to eat durian anyway

[partington]

7 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

Any Fruit combined with Alcohol will be a problem.

The Sugars that are omni-present in all Fruits will turn into Alcohol in the Gut while being digested.

Remember Fruit Punches ?

Biochemically this is nonsense. Humans do not possess enzymes that can turn sugar into alcohol, this is what yeasts do!

 

A medical condition does exist where some people have an abnormally high level of certain yeasts or abnormal bacteria in their small intestine, sometimes as a result of very prolonged  treatment with certain antibiotics.

 

This condition is incredibly rare, so that in  a study of the condition in the US, the authors considered themselves lucky to have been able to accumulate as many as 28 patients from the entire country (see  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6475837/).

 

This extreme rarity means the idea that fruit will be converted to alcohol in your gut applies to nearly no-one, and should not be taken seriously!

[DTL2014]

i think the problem will arise when the beer makes you burp...because you will get to enjoy the durian aroma a second time - think farting out your mouth