Government provides ฿2.8bn to private and public agencies to develop COVID-19 vaccines

[Excel]

13 minutes ago, smi11ie said:

Would love to analyse how exactly that money will be spent but I aleady know.  Some lucky peeps are going shopping at cartier.

And the real top people may be putting a bid in for Cartier

[realfunster]

6 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Anucha said that the funding for Siam Bioscience will be returned to the government in the form of vaccines, equivalent to the amount of funding it receives from the taxpayer."

 

Glad you added that clarification, as I was about to spit feathers !

[realfunster]

6 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Anucha said that the funding for Siam Bioscience will be returned to the government in the form of vaccines, equivalent to the amount of funding it receives from the taxpayer."

 

Glad you added that clarification, as I was about to spit feathers !

[trainman34014]

Nice way to set up a new Trough !

[sathornlover]

1 hour ago, KiaSurean said:

What's the point of spending so much money whe Thailand is so far behind the vaccine race? Isn't it better to use the money for those lower income earners affected by the pandemic and spend it to hasten the vaccination pace? 

 

At first glance, it makes no sense at all.

First of all, one wonders who will volunteer for the necessary 3 trial phases for the supposedly three promising vaccine candidates?
Or are these trials to be conducted exclusively in the overcrowded Thai prisons?

The first vaccine is supposed to be ready in 2022/23 at the earliest, if at all.
By then, however, the whole world will presumably be swimming in an abundance of advanced vaccines, perhaps even in pill form, or even better, the pandemic will be under control.

 

In this situation, who will be interested in a product of this kind "made in Thailand"?

 

But this investment fits well with the so-called "selfsufficent" ideology propagated in this country. For one thing, this and other stories can better conceal the failure to procure sufficient vaccines and appeal to national pride, thus incidentally filling some stuffed pockets even more, and that alone should be worth 2.8 billion bath to the Thais.

 

 

 

 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He said that the government has now set aside an additional 995 million baht for the National Vaccine Institute, to be distributed to three agencies, to make preparations for technology transfer in the production of COVID-19.

No R&D then just buy in the recipe?

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, ICELANDMAN said:

Why did I read the same public announcement a year ago?

As we're talking about vaccines lets call this a  "booster" last years money has been used up.

[kimamey]

1 hour ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Hello posters. Any tips for cleaning coffee out of PC keyboards?

No but given the frequency of government announcements about making Thailand the hub of something or other may I suggest making drinking coffee and reading Thaivisa entirely separate activities. 

 

There's nothing wrong with investing in the manufacture of vaccines but there are always questions regarding where the money ends up and is it about vaccines or a nice government announce announcement. 

[placnx]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Now they have decided to invest to " research, development and production" isn't a bit too late for that? isn't there like a dozen other international companies that has the vaccine already and thie products are or can be be available with one phone call?... and you wonder why people in Thailand still getting sick by the thousands and dozens dying on a daily basis...

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-peril-of-not-vaccinating-the-world
In this article I found the following quote:

And a group from the University of Pennsylvania, which pioneered some of the earliest and most consequential work on mRNA, is working with Chulalongkorn University, in Bangkok, to build a vaccine-manufacturing facility.

 

Does anybody know about this? 

[nahkit]

6 hours ago, Excel said:

Of those one third live in Isan which the government has no wish to help so that leaves 39 million.

 

You know what they, "there's many a true word spoken in jest".

[placnx]

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

Developing a Thai vaccine sounds like a waste of money to me. Too late and probably not on par with what's already available.

 

It would be better to make a deal to produce Pfizer or Moderna locally. Even for that, they're a bit late to the game.

Given that world production, mainly by pharma, is not being expanded enough to cover the world in the next pandemic, it's advisable for countries like Thailand which have the technical capability to acquire know how given some time, to have their own production capacity.

 

Some think that 1) this pandemic will remain for a few years, then become endemic; 2) a new pandemic could come as soon as 6 years.

[Lemonltr]

13 minutes ago, placnx said:

Given that world production, mainly by pharma, is not being expanded enough to cover the world in the next pandemic, it's advisable for countries like Thailand which have the technical capability to acquire know how given some time, to have their own production capacity.

 

Some think that 1) this pandemic will remain for a few years, then become endemic; 2) a new pandemic could come as soon as 6 years.

You'd be surprised at the amount of new production plants yet to produce. Uk have new plants Valneva in Scotland, Novavax in NE England, GKN/Curevax (MRNA) and others. Governments world wide got a shock. Novavax has no plants of its own so has made many production deals worldwide. Many new vaccines are at Stage 3. Try googling Fierce Pharma for daily info. 

[grain]

It's always some grand delusional idea set well into the future. How about using some of that money to do something NOW, like getting vaccines into the arms of everybody in Thailand. 

[placnx]

1 hour ago, Lemonltr said:

You'd be surprised at the amount of new production plants yet to produce. Uk have new plants Valneva in Scotland, Novavax in NE England, GKN/Curevax (MRNA) and others. Governments world wide got a shock. Novavax has no plants of its own so has made many production deals worldwide. Many new vaccines are at Stage 3. Try googling Fierce Pharma for daily info. 

I realize that by next year some time, the whole world should be covered. It has taken too long to get this far. In the future it would be sensible not to repeat the Pfizer situation where their around 180 ingredients come from around 17 countries. It would be better to have production of ingredients in-country. This would avoid vaccine nationalism blocks on sharing ingredients.

 

After an assessment of the facilities available, governments in the major countries should determine how much additional capacity is needed to produce enough vaccine for their own populations in a two-month run so that the total private + public capacity can then be directed to vaccinating the world.

[Srikcir]

9 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Anucha said that the funding for Siam Bioscience will be returned to the government in the form of vaccines, equivalent to the amount of funding it receives from the taxpayer."

The Price Tags on the COVID-19 Vaccines

https://www.managedhealthcareexecutive.com/view/the-price-tags-on-the-covid-19-vaccines

March 15, 2021

• "South Africa, for example, reportedly paid $5.25 per dose for the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine in January, more than twice the price of $2.15 per dose paid by the European Union (EU), according to a report in BMJ.
• The contribution governments have made toward vaccine research is the explanation for the price differences.
• AstraZeneca said its U.S. deal would not make a profit."

[Graemej100]

WHY?????

[Surelynot]

Just now, Graemej100 said:

WHY?????

HUB

[beaufoy]

On 6/6/2021 at 1:33 PM, Surelynot said:

HUB

If usa admit that they were making a virus to kill innocent people and it escaped from the china lab by way of a dirty Chinese worker. Then the USA and china could admit what was added to the virus in order to help new variants develop then the people making the vaccine would have enough info to make a good vaccine