wensiensheng Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, RobMuir said: No, Phuket has vaccinated a higher percentage of people than my country by far. Vaccinated people generally are not tested. The testing numbers are not that important, it is the death numbers. They are doing quite well. That’s an interesting stat although without knowing your country it’s hard to draw any conclusion. do you have the numbers for people who have received both jabs in Phuket by any chance and what the percentage is of the population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Excel said: But there are some morons in Thailand who are so arrogant that they think it is exactly what they should do. Totally lost the plot of reality me thinks They should take the lead from “down under” Oz, panic stations state by state with a handful of new cases. Difference is of course..they’re pussy states! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fex Bluse Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, RobMuir said: Have to say they, while not doing a perfect job, have seemed to have struck a reasonable balance with this Alpha British strain. Similar population to the UK but only about 1% of the deaths from this strain compared to the UK which has the advantage of being an island. No deaths would be ideal, but 43 isn't too bad compared to the worst day in the UK which was 1,800 plus which is worse than the total for the entire time in Thailand. The vast majority of Thais who have succumb were old or overweight. Let's hope they keep the numbers low and have success with the vaccine roll out and things can start getting back to relatively normal again. I have some investments you may be interested in. Guaranteed 20% or higher returns. I have charts to prove it. Let me know if interested 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: I have some investments you may be interested in. Guaranteed 20% or higher returns. I have charts to prove it. Let me know if interested I can guess where you are from. Poor attempt at a deflection mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, RobMuir said: I can guess where you are from. Poor attempt at a deflection mate. Not sure how that is relevant. Anyway, no sour feelings. Just having a bit of fun. We're on the same team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobMuir Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: That’s an interesting stat although without knowing your country it’s hard to draw any conclusion. do you have the numbers for people who have received both jabs in Phuket by any chance and what the percentage is of the population? I don't have the exact numbers but almost all 60+ year olds I know in Phuket have had at least one, and many are going for their second next week. All health workers have already been done. They are on track to have 70% done by August. Sino for over 60s and AZ for under. Australia has only vaccinated 2.5% so far. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Try harder, you only managed to add the reference to the UK 3 times and British once. You can do much better than that give it a go!! What do you want me and billions of others to call the Kent UK strain? The Spanish flu? It is what it is. Burying your head in the sand won't help. I see you don't object to the Indian strain, so I don't think you are from India, or the South African or Brazilian strain, but only the British strain being talked about. Let me guess. Anyway it is the English strain as the Thais call it, that is causing all the deaths here. How does that make you feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, RobMuir said: I don't have the exact numbers but almost all 60+ year olds I know in Phuket have had at least one, and many are going for their second next week. All health workers have already been done. They are on track to have 70% done by August. Sino for over 60s and AZ for under. Australia has only vaccinated 2.5% so far. Hmm, I appreciate your anecdotal evidence, but I must be honest and say that it is less than convincing. For instance, I am in Phuket, over 60 but despite making enquiries at various hospitals, government offices, I can find no process for me to register for a jab, let alone get one. I assume I am not the only farang over 60 here, and further assume that they also haven’t found a process for obtaining a jab either. So there’s that. and then there is the government numbers released just a week ago (sorry, I don’t have a link, so be skeptical if you wish) which stated that just 21% of the island population had had two jabs. I haven’t seen updated figures since then, so I read into that that the numbers haven’t risen much, and thats for the simple reason that they have focused on giving first jabs for everybody, so that they can claim those people as “vaccinated”. don’t get me wrong, a lot of Thai people have had their first jab in Phuket and a lot of working foreigners also. When the government says they have given first jabs to 50% of the population, I think there is more than a grain of truth to that, although the definition of “population” is unclear given Phuket’s block of non phuket registered Thai workers. however, the suggestion that nearly 70% of the Phuket population has been fully vaccinated with two jabs, just does not stand up to scrutiny. Hence the reason why even the government does not claim it to be so. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhacsyn Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: That’s an interesting stat although without knowing your country it’s hard to draw any conclusion. do you have the numbers for people who have received both jabs in Phuket by any chance and what the percentage is of the population? As of yesterday, it is just over 98,000 for two jabs and just over 322,000 for first jabs. Numbers in the link below which is from Phuket News so I hope it's ok to post it here ????. https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-governor-asks-ministries-for-help-80284.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Olmate said: They should take the lead from “down under” Oz, panic stations state by state with a handful of new cases. Difference is of course..they’re pussy states! Australia’s problem is that they are stuck in the “find a few cases, lockdown” mode. It’s effective and has got them very good results to date and is to be applauded. But it’s not a long term solution and eventually you have to break out of that syndrome. if only there was a vaccine ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Rhacsyn said: As of yesterday, it is just over 98,000 for two jabs and just over 322,000 for first jabs. Numbers in the link below which is from Phuket News so I hope it's ok to post it here ????. https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-governor-asks-ministries-for-help-80284.php Perfect. Thanks Rhacsyn. so 20% ish for fully vaccinated isn’t far off the mark still. People getting their first jab is starting to lose momentum it seems. Not sure if that’s because of lack of vaccine or lack of people willing to have the jab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalong circle Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: Perfect. Thanks Rhacsyn. so 20% ish for fully vaccinated isn’t far off the mark still. People getting their first jab is starting to lose momentum it seems. Not sure if that’s because of lack of vaccine or lack of people willing to have the jab. Lack of vaccine. Thai people working around me still wait after being registered more than 3 weeks ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Schools might open on Monday. That should keep the show going for some time. Not in dark red zones they are not. July at the earliest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, RobMuir said: What do you want me and billions of others to call the Kent UK strain? The Spanish flu? It is what it is. Burying your head in the sand won't help. I see you don't object to the Indian strain, so I don't think you are from India, or the South African or Brazilian strain, but only the British strain being talked about. Let me guess. Anyway it is the English strain as the Thais call it, that is causing all the deaths here. How does that make you feel? I really don't care what you call it, I'm amused by your post count that contains reference to it that's all....lol. My head's not in the sand however, I use it too but surprisingly have no need to do so more than is relevant to the actual post. How normal people use it really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: Perfect. Thanks Rhacsyn. so 20% ish for fully vaccinated isn’t far off the mark still. People getting their first jab is starting to lose momentum it seems. Not sure if that’s because of lack of vaccine or lack of people willing to have the jab. I wouldn't be surprised to see some vaccine disappear from official channels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, RobMuir said: I don't have the exact numbers but almost all 60+ year olds I know in Phuket have had at least one, and many are going for their second next week. All health workers have already been done. They are on track to have 70% done by August. Sino for over 60s and AZ for under. Australia has only vaccinated 2.5% so far. Australia has vaccinated over 16% of its population with at least one dose so far. How you can compare Australia to Phuket anyway? In what way is that of any relevance. Thailand and Australia stats in the chart below just for you. In Phuket they have only just started vaccinating the over 60's this week and thats only for the Thai population. Before that it was a complete free for all, any Thai could make an appointment and most did not even bother, just turn up at one of the centers and get a jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lemonltr Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, RobMuir said: What do you want me and billions of others to call the Kent UK strain? The Spanish flu? It is what it is. Burying your head in the sand won't help. I see you don't object to the Indian strain, so I don't think you are from India, or the South African or Brazilian strain, but only the British strain being talked about. Let me guess. Anyway it is the English strain as the Thais call it, that is causing all the deaths here. How does that make you feel? In the UK the Kent (uk) strain has been overwhelmed by the Indian strain and is now 80% of cases and causing concern. It is bound to do the same in Thailand. Cases up from average 2000 daily to 7000 yesterday. Daily tests around 800.000 but 1.2000.000 one day recently. Normally single figure deaths. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, RobMuir said: Similar population to the UK but only about 1% of the deaths from this strain compared to the UK which has the advantage of being an island. Yes, mate well done Thailand - now they just have to worry about the 1000% more road deaths than the UK each year. 100,000 die in the UK in a once in a lifetime pandemic , whilst the same number die in thailand every 4 years through stupidity ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, DavisH said: Not in dark red zones they are not. July at the earliest. We should find out soon. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001858?fbclid=IwAR01qESDfNWHlZSwQ6i40FYFdPLdUnNkMMLzV7nnm3xCfIeIYG08XE3MGOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lemonltr said: In the UK the Kent (uk) strain has been overwhelmed by the Indian strain and is now 80% of cases and causing concern. It is bound to do the same in Thailand. Cases up from average 2000 daily to 7000 yesterday. Daily tests around 800.000 but 1.2000.000 one day recently. Normally single figure deaths. Currently they say that the Indian strain is responsible for 6% of all cases in Thailand with the remaining being the UK strain, however that was with a sample size of just over 3,000 tests. If they did some surge/mass testing here then I'm pretty sure that figure would be much higher now. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarraMarra Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Excel said: Don't need to open. Whist expats working here and those with family may need to return I doubt that many tourists will wish to come to a country where not only their governments have warned against travel, but where it is easy to see that the virus is running amok with no clear signs of it abatting, nor government concerns about understanding true numbers manifested in their sorry state of poor testing numbers Got it in one Excel less testing low covid results. Your average joe Thai will be told Numbers are down the figures show you ? what they won't say is wer'e not testing as many as we should do. Sthey will believe the propaganda pumped out but hey the forecast is millions of Tourists soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: I wouldn't be surprised to see some vaccine disappear from official channels. I've seen it disappear from the old and vulnerable list and go straight to the air hostess and hospitality workers and the vaccinate Phuket lists. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 Vaccination Rollout Since 7th June 2021: DAY 1: 416,847 doses DAY 2: 472,128 doses DAY 3: 336,674 doses TOTAL: 1,225,649 9th June: 1st Dose: Sinovac 62,291 | AstraZeneca 231,428 2nd Dose: Sinovac 37,453 | AstraZeneca 5,502 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1402862411955118083 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 No new clusters have been reported in Bangkok in the past 24 hours. Of the 70 currently active ones, 22 are in worker camps, 16 around markets and shopping centres, 15 at businesses and factories, and 14 in communities. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1402865409196318723 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post champers Posted June 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: No new clusters have been reported in Bangkok in the past 24 hours. Of the 70 currently active ones, 22 are in worker camps, 16 around markets and shopping centres, 15 at businesses and factories, and 14 in communities. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1402865409196318723 Clusters' last stand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, RobMuir said: 1 hour ago, RobMuir said: What do you want me and billions of others to call the Kent UK strain? The Spanish flu? It is what it is. Burying your head in the sand won't help. I see you don't object to the Indian strain, so I don't think you are from India, or the South African or Brazilian strain, but only the British strain being talked about. Let me guess. Anyway it is the English strain as the Thais call it, that is causing all the deaths here. How does that make you feel? What about the Thai strain, the Thai authorities objected to it been called that, saying it came from Egypt. It's where it was discovered by sequencing, in Thailand. The Kent strain was discovered in Kent, could have originated anywhere, possibly Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Vaccination Rollout Since 7th June 2021: DAY 1: 416,847 doses DAY 2: 472,128 doses DAY 3: 336,674 doses TOTAL: 1,225,649 9th June: 1st Dose: Sinovac 62,291 | AstraZeneca 231,428 2nd Dose: Sinovac 37,453 | AstraZeneca 5,502 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1402862411955118083 Interesting. Higher numbers than I expected, so a well done on that. Helped by the focus on the big vaccination sites in Bangkok I suspect. But it leads to the next problem,. What happens when the vaccine runs out in three days time? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: No new clusters have been reported in Bangkok in the past 24 hours. Of the 70 currently active ones, 22 are in worker camps, 16 around markets and shopping centres, 15 at businesses and factories, and 14 in communities. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1402865409196318723 I think the cluster thing is done and dusted. They don’t want to find any more, so won’t. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Sadly it is going to get worse - in terms of the number of reported deaths - before it gets better, despite the vaccine rollout. It will be mid September/early October before the numbers start coming down. One month from now the numbers of daily dead will be in the region of 125 -150 and this will continue - maybe with a slight rise - through August and into early September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sunderland said: Sadly it is going to get worse - in terms of the number of reported deaths - before it gets better, despite the vaccine rollout. It will be mid September/early October before the numbers start coming down. One month from now the numbers of daily dead will be in the region of 125 -150 and this will continue - maybe with a slight rise - through August and into early September. You provide no justification for your wildly inflated numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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