swissie Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Great! According to the WHO, in Europe (as a whole) the incident-rates are on the rise again. Thanks to the reckless uncontrolled "re-opening" madness. At least we know now: It's not the meek nor the capitalists that will inherit the world. It's the global brotherhood of Idiots that will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 But we have vaccines... You can't shut down forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cclub75 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Really ? Where ? In France, hospitals, ICU services, icidence rate... all numbers are going down. Source : https://dashboard.covid19.data.gouv.fr The madness is to focus on fake "positive cases" with PCR tests with absurd CT settings. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: But we have vaccines... You can't shut down forever. The speed of administered vaccinations can appearantly not keep up with the speed that "re-opening" fanatics display. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissie Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, cclub75 said: Really ? Where ? In France, hospitals, ICU services, icidence rate... all numbers are going down. Source : https://dashboard.covid19.data.gouv.fr The madness is to focus on fake "positive cases" with PCR tests with absurd CT settings. I wrote: In Europe "as a whole". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) Some might say the Euro 2020 football tourney is a superspreader event. St Petersburg tomorrow where cases have shot up recently and three 60,000 crowds in 6 days in London at Wembley Stadium. More haste, less speed? Edited July 1, 2021 by champers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 that's pandemic, new waves every few months, for some few years. what is important is not infection cases, but serious illness and deaths it's causing. I suppose we are still away from "devastating", as MERS and SARS can be described. There are some 15 different vax available already now and some promising medications 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 I'm so afraid. Shut everything down until we have zero covid. It's the only way to save the planet. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patong2021 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said: But we have vaccines... You can't shut down forever. Really? Most of the world does not. Can you easily access vaccine in Thailand? And with the vaccines that are available how many are shown effective against new more infectious variants? Thailand has been using China sourced vaccine which is not as effective as new MRNA vaccines are. Now I see that Oxford vaccine will need to be 3X dosed for 50+ year olds to give adequate protection. Yes, some have access to vaccines, but as long as countries will allow high risk people to enter and mix with others, we will face catastrophic lockdowns. Look at Australia now, all because some people did not follow procedures and taxi driver refused to wear mask and was not vaccinated. No I do not argue for shutdown, but until vaccine is in people, no need to be stupid and to make new explosion of infections. Go slow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: Really? Most of the world does not. Can you easily access vaccine in Thailand? And with the vaccines that are available how many are shown effective against new more infectious variants? Thailand has been using China sourced vaccine which is not as effective as new MRNA vaccines are. Now I see that Oxford vaccine will need to be 3X dosed for 50+ year olds to give adequate protection. Yes, some have access to vaccines, but as long as countries will allow high risk people to enter and mix with others, we will face catastrophic lockdowns. Look at Australia now, all because some people did not follow procedures and taxi driver refused to wear mask and was not vaccinated. No I do not argue for shutdown, but until vaccine is in people, no need to be stupid and to make new explosion of infections. Go slow. The UK will be an interesting case. The plan to "fully open" looks politically unstoppable yet cases are rising. The vaccine rollout has been successful but there are still some sounding caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiam110 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 hours ago, connda said: I'm so afraid. Shut everything down until we have zero covid. It's the only way to save the planet. Tuu, I thought we discussed you'd keep off thaivisa whilst running government? Did the site name change confuse you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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