blackcab Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 A post attempting to bypass the profanity filter has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 10 cabinet members are also foregoing 3 months of salaries for #COVID19 relief, following PM @prayutofficial ’s announcement, incl. Dep-PM Prawit, Transport Min Saksayam, Chaiwut, Ed. Min Trinuch, ThaiMiniCult Ittipol, Labor Min Suchat and Dep-Agri. Min Thammanat https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1413388829369638913 Yes, where's Auntin in this list? Edited July 9, 2021 by anchadian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, aBigSmile said: There's no other solution than natural herd immunity. The vaccines are mildly effective against the Delta variant and likely useless again the Epsilon. It's only a matter time before more potent variants emerge, as they react and mutate to break though the vaccine. Humanity should quit inoculation at once, protect anyone over a certain age, and the let the disease rage among the young and strong. In a year or two, it'll be behind us. Nice to know that you are another one who is ok with a mass genocide by a virus that can be downgraded in severity by a vaccination. Great, then tell all of your aged loved ones good bye and those youngsters who do unhealthy things and make poor choices, then add in all of those with a medical issue and what are you left with....approximately 5% of the world current population. Now thats a race to extinction. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150608081753.htm#:~:text=Over 95% of the world's,than five ailments -- ScienceDaily 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, aBigSmile said: There's no other solution than natural herd immunity. The vaccines are mildly effective against the Delta variant and likely useless again the Epsilon. It's only a matter time before more potent variants emerge, as they react and mutate to break though the vaccine. Humanity should quit inoculation at once, protect anyone over a certain age, and the let the disease rage among the young and strong. In a year or two, it'll be behind us. Mildly effective? In the USA now, 99.5 percent of all persons hospitalized for covid19 are unvaccinated. The Delta variant is the dominant strain in the USA. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: Yes, if it were the case, herd immunity here we come. Doubt it will happen, there will always be a sick buffalo somewhere 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Surelynot Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, aBigSmile said: There's no other solution than natural herd immunity. The vaccines are mildly effective against the Delta variant and likely useless again the Epsilon. It's only a matter time before more potent variants emerge, as they react and mutate to break though the vaccine. Humanity should quit inoculation at once, protect anyone over a certain age, and the let the disease rage among the young and strong. In a year or two, it'll be behind us. So no one should ever have received a vaccination against............ Smallpox Polio Diptheria Rubella Measles etc Struggling to follow your logic.....or is it the plague logic......allow 1/3 of the population to die? Edited July 9, 2021 by Surelynot 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Must have been back in early April when Dr Sophon Iamsirithaworn predicted More than 28,000 people could be infected by COVID-19 per day, or Dr Yong predicting 10,000 a day or The Public Health Ministry predicting over 9,000 a day. Those doom mongers you mean? Actually, no. I posted here in early May that the Doom and Gloomers here were predicting 10,000 new cases a day. The response from the Doom and Gloomers was denial that such a prediction was made here. In fact, when I pressed you about your prediction of the future of the epidemic, you declined to make a prediction, other than it would be bad. When I asked you what that meant, you explained the consequences of 2,000+ cases a day, many sick people, deaths down the road, but nothing about any significant increases in case levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Surelynot said: Don't forget the rain can wash the virus away....remember the Songkran 2020 promises? Ahh, right. And that’s why they spray planes with water when they arrive at the airport. prayut had the right idea when he ordered the artificial rain making to be done for the chemical factory fire then. Edited July 9, 2021 by wensiensheng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, aBigSmile said: There's no other solution than natural herd immunity. The vaccines are mildly effective against the Delta variant and likely useless again the Epsilon. It's only a matter time before more potent variants emerge, as they react and mutate to break though the vaccine. Humanity should quit inoculation at once, protect anyone over a certain age, and the let the disease rage among the young and strong. In a year or two, it'll be behind us. How do you achieve herd immunity with a virus that mutates every month or so? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, anchadian said: 10 cabinet members are also foregoing 3 months of salaries for #COVID19 relief, following PM @prayutofficial ’s announcement, incl. Dep-PM Prawit, Transport Min Saksayam, Chaiwut, Ed. Min Trinuch, ThaiMiniCult Ittipol, Labor Min Suchat and Dep-Agri. Min Thammanat https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1413388829369638913 Yes, where's Auntin in this list? Noo ( หนู) has make so great job so he want to keep hes salary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, anchadian said: 10 cabinet members are also foregoing 3 months of salaries for #COVID19 relief, following PM 3 months of brown envelopes would help far more...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, aBigSmile said: There's no other solution than natural herd immunity. The vaccines are mildly effective against the Delta variant and likely useless again the Epsilon. It's only a matter time before more potent variants emerge, as they react and mutate to break though the vaccine. Humanity should quit inoculation at once, protect anyone over a certain age, and the let the disease rage among the young and strong. In a year or two, it'll be behind us. You do know the year is 2021, not some time in the 15th century, right? vaccines are very effective against hospitalization and death and if more potent strains emerge, I would bet that revised vaccines will be produced. your solution of protect everyone over a certain age? I think it was UK that initially tried that. They gave up once a bunch of people in old folks homes started dying. Unless……..are you suggesting that they be protected with VACCINES? Edited July 9, 2021 by wensiensheng 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) UPDATE: @oc_ccsa will announce the new #COVID19 measures at 4pm BK today (Friday). Quote Tweet วันนี้(9 ก.ค. 64) เวลา 16.00 น. ศบค. จะมีการแถลงข่าวอย่างเป็นทางการ เพื่อชี้แจงเกี่ยวกับข้อกำหนดและมาตรการบริหารสถานการณ์ ทางช่อง NBT และเพจ LiveNBT2HD หรือติดตามการสรุปมาตรการสำคัญได้ทางทวิตเตอร์ @oc_ccsa #โควิด19วันนี้ #โควิด19 https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1413394273588842502 You can follow it live at around 1600 hrs at https://www.facebook.com/LiveNBT2HD/live_videos/ Edited July 9, 2021 by anchadian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Actually, no. I posted here in early May that the Doom and Gloomers here were predicting 10,000 new cases a day. The response from the Doom and Gloomers was denial that such a prediction was made here. In fact, when I pressed you about your prediction of the future of the epidemic, you declined to make a prediction, other than it would be bad. When I asked you what that meant, you explained the consequences of 2,000+ cases a day, many sick people, deaths down the road, but nothing about any significant increases in case levels. So my post contained quotes from early April from those doctors that were also posted on here at the time. I posted them and have them in my history from then. You then are talking about other doom and gloomers aside from these doctors above then. Thats fine go ahead and quote them, I'm sure they will be fine with being in the same camp as the doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Bangkok and adjoining provinces -- 4,754 cases 4 Southern provinces -- 617 cases Other 67 provinces -- 3,604 Prison cases -- 278 https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/361016455516685 Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: How do you achieve herd immunity with a virus that mutates every month or so? Who is now Doom and Gloomer!? Your txt say there is nothing what can do! Everybody get covid again! Even have get vaccine or have had it already! Sorry i was not 100% immune to you , i try better next time! My system fail me was only 99.9 % immune your txt! Edited July 9, 2021 by 2 is 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, placeholder said: First off, you claimed that Sinovac was ineffective in treating the alpha variant. Studies based on large scale inoculations from Uruguay and Indonesia show in fact that it was very effective in lowering hospitalizations and deaths from the alpha variant. Where do you get your misinformaton from? Sinovac, Pfizer/BioNtech COVID-19 vaccines prove highly effective in Uruguay -government Uruguay on Tuesday released real-world data on the impact of Sinovac Biotech's (SVA.O) COVID-19 vaccine among its population that showed it was over 90% effective in preventing intensive care admissions and deaths. The shot reduced deaths by 95% and intensive care admissions by 92%, and also showed 61% efficacy in cutting coronavirus infections, the government said. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/sinovac-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccines-prove-highly-effective-uruguay-2021-06-08/ Indonesia study finds China's Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine effective in medical staff China's Sinovac Biotech COVID-19 vaccine was 98% effective at preventing death and 96% effective at preventing hospitalisation among a group of inoculated Indonesian medical staff, a study conducted by the country's health ministry has found. The findings were based on data from 120,000 healthcare workers in Jakarta who had received the vaccine between January and March this year, lead researcher and health official Pandji Dhewantara told a briefing on Wednesday. Phase 3 trials of the vaccine, called CoronaVac, have produced varying results globally, but Pandji said the study found it also prevented symptomatic COVID-19 in 94% of the group. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/indonesia-study-finds-chinas-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-effective-medical-staff-2021-05-12/ The Hong Kong study you cited was not an epidemiological study at all. So what's your point in bringing it up? It says nothing one way or the other about whether or not the Sinovac vaccine lowers hospitalizations and deaths. There have as yet been no epidemiological studies released on how well Sinovac protects vaccinated persons afflicted with the Delta variant from hospitalizations and deaths vs. unvaccinated persons. That it doesn't work as well as Biontech, Moderna, and other vaccines isn't in dispute. But your assertion that it doesn't work at all isn't grounded in the facts as currently known. First of all you need to stop making up what i said to appear less fooiish after being shown you are wrong. Point was and is, Sinovac efficiency against Alpha is just above acceptable threshold and all the countries that used it, ended up with huge outbreaks, hospitalizations and death after having used it. Its efficiency against Delta is even less, making it below acceptable threshold, ie useless. Fact that Sinovac is not releasing the data makes it even less reliable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, aBigSmile said: There's no other solution than natural herd immunity. The vaccines are mildly effective against the Delta variant and likely useless again the Epsilon. It's only a matter time before more potent variants emerge, as they react and mutate to break though the vaccine. Humanity should quit inoculation at once, protect anyone over a certain age, and the let the disease rage among the young and strong. In a year or two, it'll be behind us. What makes you think it can't also learn to bypass human immunity? Of course it can. It's been shown that stronger vaccines can produce a better immune response than natural immunity. So all you accomplish is more spread, more mutations, and more death. That's one reason Russian and Chinese disinformation like this idea. Yes, there is a link: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/russia-china-sow-disinformation-undermine-trust-western-vaccines-eu-report-says-2021-04-28/ Edited July 9, 2021 by rabas 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Vaccinations update for the day: https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/361019852183012 Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) In addition to setting a new record high for daily COVID cases of 9,276, Thailand on Friday also reported pandemic record high levels of hospitalized COVID patients, those in critical condition, and those requiring ventilators to breathe: --74,895 hospitalized vs 69,619 yesterday --2,685 in critical condition vs 2,564 yesterday --701 of those requiring ventilators to breathe vs 698 yesterday The number of COVID patients hospitalized in critical condition has now increased daily for the past 20 days in a row, setting a new record high each time. The number of critical patients requiring ventilators to breathe has set new daily records for the past four days in a row. All of the above stats reported Friday are roughly double what the same numbers were in the second and third weeks of June. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/361105312174466/?type=3 Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: How do you achieve herd immunity with a virus that mutates every month or so? It took just over 5 hours to completely contradict yourself from a previous post. Edited July 9, 2021 by Bkk Brian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Vaccinations update for the day: https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/361019852183012 Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (July 9, 2021) . About 4.8 percent of the population is fully vaccinated. 8,800,155 (+305,925) people have received the first dose, while 3,175,841 (+50,453) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #ฉีดวัคซีน #COVID19 #Thailand #KE https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1413400351437299713 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Long lines of people queued up to receive free Covid-19 tests at Mahanak Market in Bangkok’s Dusit district on Friday https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1413395029100466177 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, rabas said: What makes you think it can't also learn to bypass human immunity? Surely it is a virus.... not really capable of learning anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: So my post contained quotes from early April from those doctors that were also posted on here at the time. I posted them and have them in my history from then. You then are talking about other doom and gloomers aside from these doctors above then. Thats fine go ahead and quote them, I'm sure they will be fine with being in the same camp as the doctors. We predicted doom and gloom and it's now here in abundance.He's just jealous as he said the clusters were being contained and they weren't.He also said the numbers were declining which they did about every second day.The Delta variant was predicted to come from India and it did, it arrived from or just after the Thonglor incident at the start of April some predicted it would was going exponential he disagreed but it went exponential anyway.Some think exponential means going vertical straight away but it takes time to build up a critical mass now that has been established we can see the vertical nature of the growth. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Long lines of people queued up to receive free Covid-19 tests at Mahanak Market in Bangkok’s Dusit district on Friday https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1413395029100466177 Why do people do this? Is it because they are feeling sick? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said: Why do people do this? Is it because they are feeling sick? Yes, or someone they have been near to tested positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, brewsterbudgen said: Why do people do this? Is it because they are feeling sick? I'm not so sure where you live in Bangkok but if near enough you may want to ask them. My guess is they feel the need to be tested because of feeling sick, or family members have covid, or they've been in a high risk environment where others have it. At least 11.38% of them will have it according to statistics published over a week ago and so that figure will now be far higher. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2 is 1 Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Why do people do this? Is it because they are feeling sick? No they want free bucket! What you think!? People go line to get test coz its so fun! Edited July 9, 2021 by 2 is 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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