Moonfire Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Ugly is now in Thailand, and it is going to get really bad before it starts to get better. Prayers for everyone! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: yes... except, they're still running 140,000 doses per day short of their own self-stated goal of getting 70% of the population fully vaccinated by the end of the year. And they're going to fall further and further behind with every passing day that they come up short, including on every weekend thus far when those 300K-400K dose counts drop to 100K or so. True, however I never took any notice of the "target". Think they did almost 500k on June 7. After that (due to lack of supply) and other issues they dropped the ball. Think there was a day under 80k. I would be happy with 450k every day. There is incentive and demand here for vaccination. Sadly many (farang AND Thai) are reluctant to have sinovac. If we could just just get some vaccine things could somewhat improve by year's end. Edited July 10, 2021 by DrJack54 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 5 hours ago, anchadian said: Vietnam imposes lockdown in city, as Covid cases continue to surge in Asean The ongoing surge in Covid cases across Southeast Asia continued unabated on Friday, although the number of deaths declined, collated data showed https://www.nationthailand.com/international/40003045 It's interesting to compare Thailand and Indonesia. The population of Indonesia is about 4 times larger and the daily number of case is also around 4 times higher. However, the number of deaths in Indonesia is 12 times higher. I wonder why this very large difference in death rates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonltr Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 hours ago, jacko45k said: Should be mutual considering the UK has 3x the number of daily new cases of Thailand. Most days the UK has over 1 million tests daily. Google public health england dailyreport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actonion Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I read this Lockdown is for 14 days at least ..i would like to know what happens when the lockdown ends ? there is still no Vaccine so the infection rate will carry on rising, so the lockdown should be made permanent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Current Daily COVID Vaccinations Per Capita for Select Major World Countries and ASEAN Members Thailand isn't the worst, but isn't anywhere near the best either, about on par with India, which I'm not sure is a good thing or not. [The U.S. number currently is low, because a large portion of the population there already has been fully vaccinated, and current vaccination numbers have slowed as the remaining unvaccinated population includes a lot of vaccine skeptics]. SE Asia in general is lagging behind in the current rate of per capita vaccinations. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations I just added Thailand to OWD's standard graphic below showing countries share of vaccinated population: Edited July 10, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetryxx Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Is anyone vetting these figures that are thrown around like sportscasters reporting a football match? Disgusting hyperbole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, actonion said: I read this Lockdown is for 14 days at least ..i would like to know what happens when the lockdown ends ? there is still no Vaccine so the infection rate will carry on rising, so the lockdown should be made permanent If this soft lockdown not work, they have to do more hard decision! Lockdown hole country? Curfew to hole country? Nobody know what these idiot in charge doing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lemonltr said: Most days the UK has over 1 million tests daily. Google public health england dailyreport I tend to look here, where the numbers are..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, candide said: It's interesting to compare Thailand and Indonesia. The population of Indonesia is about 4 times larger and the daily number of case is also around 4 times higher. However, the number of deaths in Indonesia is 12 times higher. I wonder why this very large difference in death rates. Could it possibly be medical treatment or maybe just alack of transparency here in Thailand like the current numbers and those lining up for tests would have you believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post actonion Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 hours ago, jacko45k said: Should be mutual considering the UK has 3x the number of daily new cases of Thailand. At least the UK are vaccinating "everyone' not just UK citizens, un like Thailand 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, DrJack54 said: So 10July .....717 ICU. What is red line # for ICU in Thailand? Here's a data point for you from last year, its in a B.P. article entitled "The Coming Storm" 16 APR 2020. At that time there were only 200 ventilators in Thailand that are suitable for Covid patients. However since then I hear the US donated many and Thailand also bought more but how many they have now? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, actonion said: At least the UK are vaccinating "everyone' not just UK citizens, un like Thailand Well Thailand has jabbed some foreigners, for free,... but done a much more efficient job of getting many many more to pay for no jab! Edited July 10, 2021 by jacko45k 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy999 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 hours ago, jacko45k said: Should be mutual considering the UK has 3x the number of daily new cases of Thailand. 3 x the daily new cases pails into insignificance when you compare the current deaths and serious/critical figures to the UK. It surprises me that Thailand has not been put on the red list yet, but no doubt some dopey tourists will still come and suffer the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Last data I saw I think it was 55% or 60% of new cases were fully vaccinated, 40 not. Hospital admissions are rising in UK too...up 55% in the last 7 days. I know it won't be near as bad as January. But if we get lucky Sunday night, and after July 19th, numbers are going to be high. Infection rates for double vaccinated under-65s are 3 times lower than in unvaccinated under-65s, demonstrating the impact of the vaccination roll out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said: No I don't trust them.Even if the predictions are correct and the reductions of 8-10 fold brings the number of deaths down to average flu levels of 0.2% of cases 100,000-150,000 cases per day will result in 200-300 deaths per day which is not your average flu season.It may be more like a bad flu season so if restrictions are required for the new levels of the reduced number of covid deaths then one would expect similar restrictions in a bad flu season which hasn't happened yet but might happen in the future if the tolerance for viral deaths is reduced but that will be for the people to decide. Somehow Javid's projections look too hopeful assuming he is dealing with a static linear relationship between infections hospitalisations and deaths. In the real world of disease control things change and these perfect correlations don't work out. Bojo and co got lucky in leaving the EU just at the right time to have an independent vaccine policy but they are still the same clowns that plunged the country into chaos last year. Bojo pushed for herd immunity, a policy that would have been catastrophic, before he got sick himself. But at least the UK government has a plan, while the Thai government is busy with infighting and jockeying for position for a an early election while looking at the virus like rabbits in headlights. Edited July 10, 2021 by Dogmatix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Infection rates for double vaccinated under-65s are 3 times lower than in unvaccinated under-65s, demonstrating the impact of the vaccination roll out Nice to see some effect on infection numbers. (Despite the fact they are rising fast!) Edited July 10, 2021 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Please provide a link to a study showing that Sinovac is ineffective against the Delta variant. I must have missed it. You should pay more attention to current affairs and what people are posting. 120 doctors dead in Indonesia fully vacced with Sinovac. Docs and I assume nurses etc to get pfizer boosters. If you do not believe this I don't care. It's what's happening. Stop being obtuse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) "Don't travel around Thailand!" A friend heading to Chiang Mai by car this morning met a checkpoint just before Nakhon Sawan - Where you going? - Chiang Mai - Okay Done https://twitter.com/StickboyBangkok/status/1413744997149511682 Edited July 10, 2021 by anchadian 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Transport by planes bus, trains, skytrains & underground (if allawed to function) should be maximum 40% loading. I went to use the skytrain as my car being serviced, took one look, forfeited my fare & walked home. Absolutely packed & the authorities just turn a blind eye Interesting to note that yesterday the UK had 35,000 new infections but still full house for Wimbeldon & Euro final with no masks required ,. Jabbed or not I believe this a little irresponsible USA yesterday new infections came in at 35,000. I dont think the world will get of the woods until hopefully February 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 A post with unsourced and unsubstantiated claims re COVID testing has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Samui & Phangan reopening: bars open, 5,000 baht Covid tests Koh Samui and the surrounding islands of Koh Phangan and Koh Tao are preparing for their Samui Plus reopening beginning July 15. The rules for the reopening are more stringent, with 3 full days of quarantine required and then 4 days of being allowed to travel only on sealed routes to specific tourist destinations before finally being allowed to travel freely and to neighbouring islands after 1 week. In contrast, some of Koh Samui’s nightlife seems to be operating unaffected by Covid-19 restrictions and may draw Phuket Sandbox tourists longing for a drink and a night out. https://thethaiger.com/news/samui/samui-phangan-reopening-bars-open-5000-baht-covid-tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Samut Sakhon has really been through the wars with the virus, for nearly 9 months since last December's major outbreak, they have never had a day below double digits. Despite those brutal bubble and seals in the factories and camps, the community spread stayed with them daily. Their governor Gov. Veerasak Vijitsaengsri caught covid and spent 42 days unconscious on a ventilator. On his release and only a few weeks ago he had to plead with central government for more vaccines after the allocation of 300,000 was cut to just 70,000. Now they are back on the frontline with rising cases 551 today. Local wet market, my closest fresh food supply (5 min walk if that), closed indefinetly. 20 cases. I teach here in SS and quite frankly schools have basically been closed for.... I'm not sure. Most of the year and half of December last year. It's really getting difficult to remember. It's tragic. I expect closed for many more months to come. Those at the top should hold their heads in shame. Of course they won't because all they care about is power and money not the people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) My friends, all were sitting around in early April, saying how lucky we were to be here in Thailand and especially Issan even after Songkran ! Letting those construction sites empty out a couple of weeks ago ,have taken its toll ! Need a hard 2 week lock down ! https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/photos Edited July 10, 2021 by riclag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojo Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, natway09 said: Interesting to note that yesterday the UK had 35,000 new infections but still full house for Wimbeldon & Euro final with no masks required ,. Jabbed or not I believe this a little irresponsible Yes, quite interesting, and for me, it was the fact that sooooh many in the crowds weren't/aren't wearing masks (they had a choice)....show whats confidence the public have in the vaccination programme or just sick to the teeth of it all or maybe don't know anyone seriously affected by Covid, Christ knows.........................................were on track for approx 100K infections again daily within a couple of weeks................at what point does the tiny percentage of cases which lead to hospitalisation become an issue? How on earth do you model that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, natway09 said: Transport by planes bus, trains, skytrains & underground (if allawed to function) should be maximum 40% loading. I went to use the skytrain as my car being serviced, took one look, forfeited my fare & walked home. Absolutely packed & the authorities just turn a blind eye Interesting to note that yesterday the UK had 35,000 new infections but still full house for Wimbeldon & Euro final with no masks required ,. Jabbed or not I believe this a little irresponsible USA yesterday new infections came in at 35,000. I dont think the world will get of the woods until hopefully February 2022 Country's whit good vaccine % are not going backwards. They not going to close country's anymore. They have make one goal whit vaccine is that people who has get vaccine not anymore die covid(so easily). Even delta variant grow infections all over Europe almost all country's has open up restrictions. Every economy in Europe increase strongly, there not find that kind politician who have balls to say we will lockdown again! Edited July 10, 2021 by 2 is 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialemco Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 hours ago, jacko45k said: Should be mutual considering the UK has 3x the number of daily new cases of Thailand. Agree close borders and try to expedite availability of suitable vaccines. It seems inevitable that tourist season has now been lost for another year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, riclag said: We all were sitting around in early April, saying how lucky we were to be here in Thailand and especially Issan even after Songkran ! Letting those construction sites empty out a couple of weeks ago ,have taken its toll ! Need a hard 2 week lock down ! https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/photos That was big impact but also lotto sellers who come back from BKK has bring much infections! Biggest lotto markets are in Isaan area. And i think most of quota's also. 2 times /month i have always been bist coz lotto market people even stop traffic in main road from Wang Saphung to Loei! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, candide said: It's interesting to compare Thailand and Indonesia. The population of Indonesia is about 4 times larger and the daily number of case is also around 4 times higher. However, the number of deaths in Indonesia is 12 times higher. I wonder why this very large difference in death rates. They have been longer and deeper into the pandemic, same as the Philippines. There is an accumulation of the very sick, escpecially those on ventilators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poskat Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, apetryxx said: Is anyone vetting these figures that are thrown around like sportscasters reporting a football match? Disgusting hyperbole. thanks for volunteering to do this much appreciated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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