Why not J&J?

[Aforek]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

 

The study, called the Sisonke, involved over 477,000 health care workers who received the single-shot COVID-19 vaccine between February and May of this year. Workers were exposed to both the Beta and Delta variants of COVID-19 as they spread throughout the country.

https://www.politico.eu/article/johnson-johnson-coronavirus-vaccine-delta-variant/

477000 people, it's more effective and representative than 1000  tested in a laboratory 

[thailand49]

12 hours ago, Letseng said:

1 J&J jab isn't a lot of protection.

It really is tough with all the stuff going out, like many things in life one day it is good the next it is bad, just look at the Moderna stock the other day?  It is now being reported that the Pfizer only has 50% against the Delta?  a report a few months back Pfizer might be good for a year or two today one said all we got is six months? 

 

Being human, although these vaccine were push through in record time I have more confidences in companies from the West, Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, even AZ,  I'll keep my distant with any produced by China.????

[mtls2005]

On 8/10/2021 at 10:37 PM, FridgeMagnet1 said:

They ordered 5 million doses 

 

The actual headlines, from ~ 2 months ago:

 

"Government Approves Order to 5 million J&J"

 

"Government Hopes to Ink Deal with J&J"

 

 

Haven't heard much since then.

 

 

~ 13 million people have received J&J in the U.S.

 

AFAIK, no U.S. government agencies are currently recommending a booster for J&J.

 

 

I think Canada shelved their use of J&J and will donate all their stocks.

 

 

J&J is obviously thrilled about the Sisonke pre-print re: Delta Breakthroughs, given that there was increasing doubt about this vaccine's efficacy against Delta. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HelloWelcome77]

On 8/12/2021 at 7:37 AM, thailand49 said:

Maybe???? Viva la France

555 no worries. I just didn't get it. Maybe because I'm French ????

[Sudarut]

It's probably full of asbestos like their talcum powder.   

[thailand49]

6 hours ago, HelloWelcome77 said:

555 no worries. I just didn't get it. Maybe because I'm French ????

Just enjoy life  it is out of our control just be proud you gave the world French Fries and deep French kissing.????

[pseudorabies]

A few weeks ago my wife mentioned that Anutin was asked about JnJ at a press conference/interview.  He replied that JnJ has stopped taking their calls.

 

If true then Anutin et al might have flaked and angered the people at JnJ to the point that they don't want to deal with the Thai government anymore.  It takes a lot of resources to apply and shepherd an application through the approval process.  You would expect that after jumping through all the approval hoops and ultimately getting approved that the government would then be eager to place an order.  But we know that the Thai government has NOT been interested in ordering Western vaccines.  I can imagine the run around that JnJ officials must have gotten from the Thai government.  And with so many nations in need and lined up ready to purchase it would make sense to not waste time on Thailand.

 

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Anutin said Now I want to announce missing people. Johnson & Johnson vaccine that we are preparing to sign a Term Sheet contract, but can't contact the company. Jensen-See Exchange Co., Ltd. Is this our fault? Because we have accelerated. However, it is expected that vaccine manufacturers may have problems. We also have information from the National Vaccine Institute on this matter. A medical committee warned us that we had to listen because we wouldn't take people as lab rats. (Translated from Thai using Google Translate)

https://thestandard.co/anutin-cannot-contact-johnson-and-johnson-and-bought-20-million-doses-of-pfizer/

 

 

 

[fredscats]

On 8/10/2021 at 5:25 PM, thailand49 said:

I heard the French now are stepping over themselves to try to sign up for the Free U.S. Donated Pfizer as Boosters?????

J and J  61% effective     good enough for surrender monkeys

[internationalism]

thammasat uni plans for J&J import, as well as novartis. Just waiting for the royal gazette, which will allow them to order J&J (already approved to use in thailand). They will be selling it to thai institutions at price, as chula does with sinopharm 

[thailand49]

6 hours ago, fredscats said:

J and J  61% effective     good enough for surrender monkeys

Report on Yahoo, J&J from another study it was better than 61% against the Delta. Tomorrow who knows?

[LongTimeLurker]

On 8/10/2021 at 7:49 PM, Nanaplaza666 said:

Havn't send or havn't been ordered . 

It's made in Thailand.

[placeholder]

33 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's made in Thailand.

No. Astra Zeneca's vaccine is manufactured in Thailand. J&J's is not.

[Nanaplaza666]

15 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

It's made in Thailand.

?????? 

[mtls2005]

CDC (U.S.) as part of a broader Booster announcement/plan...

 

“We also anticipate booster shots will likely be needed for people who received the Johnson & Johnson (J&J) vaccine. Administration of the J&J vaccine did not begin in the U.S. until March 2021, and we expect more data on J&J in the next few weeks. With those data in hand, we will keep the public informed with a timely plan for J&J booster shots as well.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0818-covid-19-booster-shots.html

[LongTimeLurker]

18 hours ago, placeholder said:

No. Astra Zeneca's vaccine is manufactured in Thailand. J&J's is not.

 

3 hours ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

?????? 

Sorry, I'd mistakenly thought that Janssen was the Thai manufacturer for J&J vaccine from what I had read.

[mfd101]

Yesterday's Nouvel Obs (24 Aug 2021) says that the Haute Authorité de Santé (HAS - France's FDA) now recommends the following:

 

- 2 doses of J&J because 1 shot is insufficiently effective against Delta

- more generally, all over-65s should have 3 shots of whatever takes their fancy.

 

 

[Aforek]

Johnson & Johson says that a second jab of their vaccine shows antibodies 9 times more effective than the first jab, 8 months after the first jab 

 

2nd dose of Janssen 8 months after the first? J&J says yes - Debate Post