The Farang Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: So, when is the Pfizer going to be available to Thais? Thais are considered important, right? If they are willing to pay for it, make it available. I want my wife to get it vut she only has the combo vax option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregBow Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Is there any "official" opinion on this from the manufacturers? Has anyone seen any quote from AZ or Pfizer in regard to changes of liability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10baht Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Henryford said: Can anyone reference for me the scientific papers where they have tested the effect of mixing different vaccines? Is your google busted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10baht Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 6 hours ago, TooMuchTime said: Thai doctor guy said it is ok. Trust the science. What does the Chinese embassy say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farang Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Moderna and Pfizer filed in court to not have any liability if something goes wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I have had one jab of AstraZeneca, and am scheduled for the second one shortly. If I do not want it, can I ask to have a jab of Pfizer later - when supplies arrive? If not, I would be prepared to pay privately for a Pfizer jab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, sambum said: I have had one jab of AstraZeneca, and am scheduled for the second one shortly. If I do not want it, can I ask to have a jab of Pfizer later - when supplies arrive? If not, I would be prepared to pay privately for a Pfizer jab. You may exceed the recommended time between jabs.... Az to Az seems to be one of the longer ones. Pfizer to Pfizer is only 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0815 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Henryford said: Can anyone reference for me the scientific papers where they have tested the effect of mixing different vaccines? SOLLY, got wet in the rain. Cannot read anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonypattaya Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Sounds a lot better than the dump's one dose disinfectant and one dose bleach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Henryford said: Can anyone reference for me the scientific papers where they have tested the effect of mixing different vaccines? Astra and Pfizer are 2 different vaccines one is mRNA and he other is a double strand adenovirus vector. Sputnik is adeno virus vaccine and Astra now work with Russia with their vaccine development. I do not know how that will work combined, we will have to wait for a expert study and report to find that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifish Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 An interesting read if you can translate. 混合covid vacines是无用的，但不要告诉泰国的那些白痴 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdiam Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Henryford said: Can anyone reference for me the scientific papers where they have tested the effect of mixing different vaccines? Test AZ then pfizer was done in mass in UK in July. I read complete report end July. Go on Google. Sure you will find. EU will start mixing from next month too Sinovac zero approved in UK Europe or USA. So zero testing done here for mixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahtin Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thaifish said: An interesting read if you can translate. 混合covid vacines是无用的，但不要告诉泰国的那些白痴 Mixed covid vacines are useless, but don’t tell those idiots in Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocker33 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I had a Pfizer jab a couple of weeks ago with the second dose on the 14th September. When I looked at the certificate yesterday it say 2nd dose AZ. So it looks like they are already doing it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Could've seen these scenarios developing several months ago when supply and demand was at a premium worldwide, and yet the respective vaccines distribution couldn't come close to keeping up. Naturally, have to take what you can get or being made available at the time - matter of survival. No guarantee that there will be this and that vaccine, as the demand worldwide is so high and only so many doses in any given period to go around until the manufacturers push the next cycle. Thailand's programs might typical of receiving this vaccine from the start, and then later procuring these other vaccines....so the twisted justification to mix was quite satisfactory among medical/health experts - as it is still today throughout much of the world. All of the respective vaccine types have different designs and properties and not made to be mixed with others. The slight exception might be the Pfizer/Modern mRNA, which are similar - but really not. From what I've read and heard, the most reasoned science-types cringe at the idea of mixing vaccines left and right - including any upcoming boosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmith Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Pick and Mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmith Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 There is ZERO research on the long term effects of mixing vaccines …. it's just not been around long enough ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBuffaloATM Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 “zero long term research on mixing vaccines” (never mind that what we DO know on that is all positive) Wright Bros : right ! Cancel the Humans in Aeroplanes Thing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, stupidfarang said: What concerns me is it is AstraZeneca vaccine is a viral vector vaccine and Moderna is a mRNA vaccine so I would like to know if it is safe to mix the two differnat types. That combination was used widely in canada with no adverse effects. Even though, according to my well researched ant vaxx friends, we will all have two heads within 6 months as our very DNA is altered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongheart Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Henryford said: Can anyone reference for me the scientific papers where they have tested the effect of mixing different vaccines? I don't have a link but you can Google: Politicians making arbitrary decisions based on own incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah K Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 AstraZeneca is made from a weakened version of a common cold virus (known as an adenovirus) from chimpanzees. It has been modified to contain genetic material shared by the coronavirus - although it can't cause the illness. Once injected, it teaches the body's immune system how to fight the real virus. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an mRNA vaccine that teach your cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. The CDC Authorized and Recommended only the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson's Janssen Vaccines. However, all of the vaccines have been in use since February this year with little side affects, and a great reduction in cases, and severity in breakthrough cases, which was to be expected. I had Sinove on 2 August, followed up by AstraZeneca on 22 August and had no side effects of adverse reactions at all, which, is probably common. My parents have had a booster of Pfizer (three shots total) but they are 86 and 91 years old and live in Florida, so I don't blame them, they also had no adverse reactions to the vaccine. In fact only one family member and two friends, out of all my family and friends got a breakthrough case. None of them had to be hospitalized. There is not enough data on breakthrough cases to determine why, but my niece has type A negative blood, and there is a thought that folks with rarer blood types might be a cause. she was sick for about a week, and then got over it and was back to normal. She credits the vaccine. for keeping her out of the ICU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 6 hours ago, JimGant said: As regards so many fast moving items in medicine, Dr Google is often a better source than your local physician. I'm sure most physicians don't enjoy being second guessed, but in the US, my primary care doctor welcomed my well-researched study on high blood pressure meds, and re-prescribed accordingly. No way can practicing physicians keep up with all new research affecting their patients; we give too much god credence to our doctors.... _ollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, brucec64 said: That combination was used widely in canada with no adverse effects. Even though, according to my well researched ant vaxx friends, we will all have two heads within 6 months as our very DNA is altered... Expecting the transhumanism types to become dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatfarmer Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Emdog said: I'm due to get second shot of AZ Oct 22. If I can get a shot of Pfizer before then, I'll probably go with that. Combo platter. With 3 you get egg roll Me too. There's plenty fo Pfizer around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigar Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Yeah..sure next month..everything is next month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANSIAM Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 11 hours ago, Henryford said: Can anyone reference for me the scientific papers where they have tested the effect of mixing different vaccines? Good reason to avoid it for now, and I don't think international travel will be smooth with a Heinz 57 cocktail jab certificate......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigar Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 4 hours ago, sambum said: I have had one jab of AstraZeneca, and am scheduled for the second one shortly. If I do not want it, can I ask to have a jab of Pfizer later - when supplies arrive? If not, I would be prepared to pay privately for a Pfizer jab. Here we got AZ, but they gave away every dose.We only use Phizer and moderna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milys Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I just wonder if the mix of different vaccines is so good, why haven't we seen more of it in the west. For me it more looks like; we already had a lot of people vaccinated with the Sinovac that we have a stockpile of and more coming in. Let's not waste that and why not mix it with a proper vaccine and call it thai cutting edge research. Huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Thaifish said: An interesting read if you can translate. 混合covid vacines是无用的，但不要告诉泰国的那些白痴 "Mixed covid vacines are useless, but don’t tell those idiots in Thailand." Is this you or is there a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, goatfarmer said: Me too. There's plenty fo Pfizer around. Where you are but not nationwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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