Police investigate the rape of a party hostess in Chonburi, three men accused have been arrested

[Bluespunk]

Just now, steven100 said:

if working at these sorts of places, especially someone's house,  they should have escort/security with them.  

Yes how dare women allow themselves to be raped and then complain about it. 
 

This thread has contained appalling posts so far, yours was the first but you are far from alone in blaming the victim. 

[robblok]

23 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

It's amazing this sort of thing doesn't occur more frequently.  Sexy women around a bunch of drunk men in a private residence.  Like a frat party in the US.  These women should never go to these type of parties without a male escort. 

The problem is where do you draw the line, i know that in Afghanistan and other Muslim countries a woman cant go out without a male escort. So do you think that is normal ? Problem is a bit what one considers normal and if they don't bring one does that mean its their fault ? Really difficult. 

 

I don't think its a good idea to be with drunk men in a private residence but it often happens. I would say its not smart but does not excuse the males one bit. 

[DefaultName]

I have to admit that I thought that sexy and sex was part of the job for a hostess.  Just as well I've never gone to one of these parties then, though I don't think that I've ever been drunk enough to not notice a NO, in any language. 

[Rampant Rabbit]

17 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yes how dare women allow themselves to be raped and then complain about it. 
 

This thread has contained appalling posts so far, yours was the first but you are far from alone in blaming the victim. 

Tell it to Prayut

[Bluespunk]

Just now, Rampant Rabbit said:

Tell it to Prayut

When he calls this evening I will, but until then I’ll keep to the forum. 

[Rampant Rabbit]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

When he calls this evening I will, but until then I’ll keep to the forum. 

my  point ,of  course  i reckon many Thai  men think that way

[Zikomat]

We will never know the truth. 

[Rampant Rabbit]

5 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

We will never know the truth. 

Truths a  bit  like  beauty though

[kingstonkid]

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Does the escort sit outside in the car waiting or does he/she follow them around inside the venue ?

some cases they wait in the car some they go in a lot depends on the crowd at the party.  

Usually if it is young guys they will stand off to the side and watch.  The bottom line is these guys are big, mean and have that don't <deleted> me off look that says police would be the least of your worries if you do something wrong.

 

Even in the strip clubs they are watching there is no such thing as a "private" room they almost all have cameras. 

Used to sit int eh DJ booth and there was a video screen for each area.  

 

[RobU]

3 hours ago, paul1804 said:

There is far too much of these sexual abuse & rape cases, Thailand should look at Singapore in regards to penalties for these offenders. A lady should be able to perform any task she chooses from hostessing to even topless dancing and not be subjected to sexual abuse and rape, obviously many men need to be further educated and subjected to harsh penalties for these crimes. Guys just imagine if this was your sweet young daughter or sister, you would be horrified and feel like catching these offenders and castrating them!!! 

I agree, you can look, you can admire, you can enjoy what is on display but don't touch unless specifically invited. I used to go to UK Rock Concerts in the 70's and 80's where Heavy Rockers policed the grounds. Girls would often go topless and sometimes naked and no one touched them because if anyone did all the girl did was tell the 'Angels' and that individual was hurt very badly. Police stayed outside the grounds and didn't interfere.

[RobU]

I have a friend who used to work in the sex industry in the UK. She would not attend bachelor style parties (even if there were other women going) because of the high risk associated with them. She states that even the 'nicest' men can become like animals influenced by testosterone highs and male hysteria, conforming to a crowd instinct, violent rape and gang***g was common but not reported because the police had no sympathy or intent to take action. At least it is taken seriously in Thailand

[H1w4yR1da]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

The woman told police that after three rounds of drinks, the house owner, Mr Tung, attacked her and forced her into a bedroom where she was raped two times by him.

Her police statement said the two other men in the house then followed him into the bedroom, one at a time, and raped her after Mr Tung was finished.

 

Right, that you call this a grey area says a lot about you.

 

FORCED HER into a bedroom and later  two other men then did the same after the fist was done. Not sure what is rape in your mind. But in my mind this is 100% rape. 

 

 

Allegedly.

[BritManToo]

3 hours ago, Zikomat said:

We will never know the truth. 

She says she was raped, 3 guys say they paid her for sex.

Hard to see any provable outcome in this case.

[paul1804]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

She says she was raped, 3 guys say they paid her for sex.

Hard to see any provable outcome in this case.

If they paid her what was agreed by all parties she wouldn't be reporting the incedent would she!! 

[paul1804]

Just now, paul1804 said:

If they paid her what was agreed by all parties she wouldn't be reporting the incedent would she!! 

I would say they raped her and then gave her whatever money they felt would maybe keep her quiet but it back fired didn't it!! 

[paul1804]

There are some rather unsavory comments on here by many which is bloody sad, hostess or whatever sex should only be consensual period!!!

[BritManToo]

40 minutes ago, paul1804 said:

If they paid her what was agreed by all parties she wouldn't be reporting the incedent would she!! 

Women do make false accusations of sexual misconduct for all sorts of reasons.

But it appears you have unilaterally decided to do away with all the rules of evidence and justice, and just believe whatever a woman says.

[Tony125]

7 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Does the escort sit outside in the car waiting or does he/she follow them around inside the venue ?

 The escort does not sit inside a car parked outside but follows them around the venue, hold tips and money they are given. If a girl wanted to do something extra her choice but not left alone and escort holds their money so they are not ripped off.

Guy said it wasn't rape as he had paid her 400 baht for sex. No way you are having sex with a Thai Pretty for 400 baht, 4,000 baht maybe.

Edited October 25, 2021 by Tony125

[sammieuk1]

Sure the police will be very professional in the investigation and only charger her with soliciting springs to my mind here, but maybe there is a god after all and retribution is swift hard and painful metered out by the boys in brown who want nothing more than justice ????

[WEBBYB808]

16 hours ago, jacko45k said:

She wasn't.....she was a victim. 

I was referring  to the individual  that raped her.  He had a choice

[Albert Zweistein]

11 hours ago, paul1804 said:

There is far too much of these sexual abuse & rape cases, Thailand should look at Singapore in regards to penalties for these offenders. A lady should be able to perform any task she chooses from hostessing to even topless dancing and not be subjected to sexual abuse and rape, obviously many men need to be further educated and subjected to harsh penalties for these crimes. Guys just imagine if this was your sweet young daughter or sister, you would be horrified and feel like catching these offenders and castrating them!!! 

Sweet young daughter or sister shouldn't be in this business.

[EVENKEEL]

6 hours ago, paul1804 said:

I would say they raped her and then gave her whatever money they felt would maybe keep her quiet but it back fired didn't it!! 

Or, money was agreed upon, no rape but she wasn't paid as agreed upon. So call it rape.

 

Not saying she wasn't raped, but there's also the "what if"

[jacko45k]

6 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said:

I was referring  to the individual  that raped her.  He had a choice

It was your quoting of a post, where the subject was the victim, that made it look otherwise. No problem.

[paul1804]

11 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said:

Sweet young daughter or sister shouldn't be in this business.

Maybe she has a family to feed as well as herself, it seems you are not very aware of the dire economic state of many in Thailand and especially in the personal entertainment industry of hostess's, go go girls, sex workers and the like!!!

[paul1804]

11 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Or, money was agreed upon, no rape but she wasn't paid as agreed upon. So call it rape.

 

Not saying she wasn't raped, but there's also the "what if"

Well its three on one and the one is claiming the rape offence,  I think that sums it up!

[cardinalblue]

New policy - no drugs or alcohol at parties

[Albert Zweistein]

6 hours ago, paul1804 said:

Maybe she has a family to feed as well as herself, it seems you are not very aware of the dire economic state of many in Thailand and especially in the personal entertainment industry of hostess's, go go girls, sex workers and the like!!!

Sorry but I am very well aware of the economic state of many in Thailand but also aware of the lazyness amongst many of them. Just take a look at the many migrant workers doing low paid work in factories and construction while many Thai are unemployed and living from day to day. It's still easier to work as 'partygirl' than in a factory.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 10/25/2021 at 9:06 AM, brianthainess said:

There should be a protocol for these 'Pretties' phone/SMS  every hour to a contact person, it would be easy to set up a password of some sort for "Get me 'outa here"

A girl who'd arranged it personally on Line, with no agent, like this girl couldn't do that.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 10/25/2021 at 10:49 AM, robblok said:

Seems your at least looking down on her. At least she is providing for her own income

He's looking down on her activities because he can as he's never been entertained by a Thai working girl!   He's no hypocrite.

Edited October 26, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

On 10/25/2021 at 11:04 AM, Harsh Jones said:

No. But this wasn't a violent ambush style rape.

Yes, it was!  Read the link.