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19 hours ago, sandyf said:

The west created the problem with the industrial revolution. Now the west want to blame the Asians for having their industrial revolution.

Time the west put their hand deeper in the pocket and cut the poorer countries some slack.

What you say is correct to some extent but we have to place history and your comment in context.  Global warming (and associated risks) were poorly understood during most of the industrial revolution and good research and information suppressed by a very powerful fossil fuel industry combined with national favorable outcomes such as America's petro dollar deal.  However the situation is very different today.  Many of the risks and impact are well understood and time is no longer on our side.  I fully agree with you that the west should aid less developed countries to convert and should do far more themselves to reduce carbon emissions.   However Asian governments continue to build coal power plants, allow cheap diesel to run, encourage crop burning, unregulated factories.  It will take strong partnerships to help reduce emissions globally.  Lets hope they can flourish in the coming decade.    

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5 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said:

What you say is correct to some extent but we have to place history and your comment in context.  Global warming (and associated risks) were poorly understood during most of the industrial revolution and good research and information suppressed by a very powerful fossil fuel industry combined with national favorable outcomes such as America's petro dollar deal.  However the situation is very different today.  Many of the risks and impact are well understood and time is no longer on our side.  I fully agree with you that the west should aid less developed countries to convert and should do far more themselves to reduce carbon emissions.   However Asian governments continue to build coal power plants, allow cheap diesel to run, encourage crop burning, unregulated factories.  It will take strong partnerships to help reduce emissions globally.  Lets hope they can flourish in the coming decade.    

I wouldn't disagree, developing countries are that and Rome wasn't built in a day, education takes time. These countries are not going to take lectures from the major perpetrators until they show a great deal more leadership, particularly in financial terms. 

How can they take the UK seriously when there are plans for another coal mine and more offshore oil. 

As far as coal is concerned they nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites. Bojo keeps banging on about how the UK has reduced it's dependency on coal but that didn't come about as a benefit to the environment, coal was just another failed UK industry like aircraft and cars.

As far as Thailand is concerned they have been taking steps and the comments on this forum are quite unjustified, but there is no accounting for those that live in glass houses.

https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/thailand-to-replace-coal-fired-plants-with-gas-fired-complex#:~:text=Thailand's state-owned Electricity Generating,bn) gas-fired complex.

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In real practice, the world could've completely gone over to alternative energies years ago, as the knowhow has been in place for quite some time now. The obvious and largely rhetorically inquiry might be to ask why aren't these things a way of life contemporarily? 

 

We're not shifting in the right direction because they really don't care to have it this way. Their oligarchical control, influence and grotesque profits margins contradict any dreamy change that's fashionably spoken of. 

 

Another base instigator: mindless and unnecessary consumption, accumulation and waste. 

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6 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said:

What you say is correct to some extent but we have to place history and your comment in context.  Global warming (and associated risks) were poorly understood during most of the industrial revolution and good research and information suppressed by a very powerful fossil fuel industry combined with national favorable outcomes such as America's petro dollar deal.  However the situation is very different today.  Many of the risks and impact are well understood and time is no longer on our side.  I fully agree with you that the west should aid less developed countries to convert and should do far more themselves to reduce carbon emissions.   However Asian governments continue to build coal power plants, allow cheap diesel to run, encourage crop burning, unregulated factories.  It will take strong partnerships to help reduce emissions globally.  Lets hope they can flourish in the coming decade.    

We could easily start [and cast blame] on the ever expanding U.S. military empire and usage, who might be singularly guilty of the greatest consumer of carbon-based fuels in the history of human kind. As it spirals out of control.....no one touches upon this. 

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15 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

We could easily start [and cast blame] on the ever expanding U.S. military empire and usage, who might be singularly guilty of the greatest consumer of carbon-based fuels in the history of human kind. As it spirals out of control.....no one touches upon this. 

And including the oil wars and petro dollar deal ????

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16 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

We could easily start [and cast blame] on the ever expanding U.S. military empire and usage, who might be singularly guilty of the greatest consumer of carbon-based fuels in the history of human kind. As it spirals out of control.....no one touches upon this. 

Very good point. I wonder who will be the first to come out with the electric tank.

The nuclear deterrent could take on a whole new meaning.

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