snoop1130 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 The Huay Yai Municipality reportedly has issued a permit to what neighboring ex-pats can only describe as slum housing, also known as an informal settlement, according to residents who live near the community in question. Residents of Huay Yai were stunned at a decision to allow 20 plus tin structures on 4 rai of former coconut farmland housing foreign migrant construction workers, where no construction work could be seen being immediately undertaken. The tin structures were erected back in May of this year without a permit, according to Huay Yai ex-pat residents, therefore being an illegal development. Following residents’ complaints, the organizers of the development were reportedly given the opportunity by the Huay Yai Municipality to apply for a permit, rather than them serve a demolition and removal order which, according to them, is what concerned ex-pat residents consider should have been the correct course of action. News this week of the permit being issued came as a shock, causing disbelief to residents as to how the municipality could give a permit to what nearby residents considered such low-quality housing and amenities. Additionally, residents of nearby communities were concerned about the current Covid pandemic being prevalent in many of these types of camps. Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/11/25/huay-yai-expats-express-disappointment-at-decision-keeping-informal-settlement-in-area/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2021-11-25 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jenkins9039 Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 Why do the 'ex-pats' believe they have the right to kick thai's/burmese shack dwellers out? Som-Nom-Na, now they can reside there for years lol 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post atpeace Posted November 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Jenkins9039 said: Why do the 'ex-pats' believe they have the right to kick thai's/burmese shack dwellers out? Som-Nom-Na, now they can reside there for years lol Your empathy is false and obvious to all. We live in world with a multitude of desire and needs. People like yourself only care about their sad existence and criticize anything that builds their ego or put them on an insincere pedestal. I wonder how you would deal with an illegal settlement with no sewage or waste disposal in your backyard where your children roam. Tough situation to resolve. The immigrants need to have shelter and can't wait for permits. The best solution might very well be the current setup which is far from ideal. These types of settlements pop all the time and usually disappear in a year or two as the workers migrate. Odd that a permit was granted but maybe it was a short term permit? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gsxrnz Posted November 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2021 The shacks look OK to me. I mean, give them a lick of paint and the village could be easily be passed off as a "Ree-zort". 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jenkins9039 Posted November 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, atpeace said: 11 hours ago, Jenkins9039 said: Why do the 'ex-pats' believe they have the right to kick thai's/burmese shack dwellers out? Som-Nom-Na, now they can reside there for years lol Your empathy is false and obvious to all. We live in world with a multitude of desire and needs. People like yourself only care about their sad existence and criticize anything that builds their ego or put them on an insincere pedestal. I quite enjoy my 'sad existence' thanks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I Love Thailand so much, but, NIMBY Sad individuals 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grusa Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 There is a good reason why you can't buy one of these over the counter.............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: News this week of the permit being issued came as a shock, causing disbelief to residents as to how the municipality could give a permit to what nearby residents considered such low-quality housing and amenities. Why would this shock anyone? We're below Soi dogs in Thailand. Bottom line is, these migrants are a potential valuable source of cheap labour for the local elite and they need somewhere to stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, atpeace said: I wonder how you would deal with an illegal settlement with no sewage or waste disposal in your backyard where your children roam. If your children are roaming onto abandoned coconut plantations, you've got bigger fish to fry... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: If your children are roaming onto abandoned coconut plantations, you've got bigger fish to fry... Well kids do just that don't they..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpeace Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 52 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Why would this shock anyone? We're below Soi dogs in Thailand. Bottom line is, these migrants are a potential valuable source of cheap labour for the local elite and they need somewhere to stay. Thais for the most part respect me. In 25 years here I've been disrespected rarely but never treated like a soi dog. I'm an OK dude but don't go out of my way to spread goodwill and hence don't expect a great deal of respect. Actually in a couple social circles here I get much more respect than I feel I've earned. It isn't always perfect and there are Thai jerks that are best ignored. Why do Thais treat you like a soi dog? I do know of a few that are treated in this manner and well, lets just say they most definitely deserve it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leaver Posted November 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) On 11/26/2021 at 7:40 AM, atpeace said: I wonder how you would deal with an illegal settlement with no sewage or waste disposal in your backyard where your children roam. I would move. I have that luxury because I rent, and will never buy here, for the same reasons you mention in your post. There is no "caveat emptor" (let the buyer beware) in relation to property here, because there are no proper town planning laws here, and that's on top of the foreign ownership of property laws. Those that buy take the gamble. Some lose. The western saying of "rent is dead money" is not applicable in Thailand for foreigners. Edited November 27, 2021 by Leaver 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Leaver said: I would move. I have that luxury because I rent, and will never buy here, for the same reasons you mention in your post. There is no "caveat emptor" (let the buy beware) in relation to property here, because there are no proper town planning laws here, and that's on top of the foreign ownership of property laws. Those that buy take the gamble. Some lose. The western saying of "rent is dead money" is not applicable in Thailand for foreigners. For once you say something I can agree with, congratulations ???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said: For once you say something I can agree with, congratulations ???????? Well, after more than 9,500 posts, that's great. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Replace Burmese migrants with your choice of white retired folks here.... And guess how far the compassion would go if you down your luck, no visa, patching up a shack to stay illegally? Surely Immigration officers would be so understanding on the way to a temporary cell and the pending deportation.... Why the double standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 No sympathy for entitles white wealthy westerners trying to make poor people homeless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 11:19 AM, BangkokReady said: Why would this shock anyone? We're below Soi dogs in Thailand. Bottom line is, these migrants are a potential valuable source of cheap labour for the local elite and they need somewhere to stay. Silly self pity. Foreigners generate wealth too but they are not as important as they think they are 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tingtong said: Replace Burmese migrants with your choice of white retired folks here.... And guess how far the compassion would go if you down your luck, no visa, patching up a shack to stay illegally? Surely Immigration officers would be so understanding on the way to a temporary cell and the pending deportation.... Why the double standards? The difference being that the "white folks", as you describe them, have "no visa" and are not here legally, whereas the migrant workers are here "legally" (yeah, I know...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 4:26 AM, timendres said: The difference being that the "white folks", as you describe them, have "no visa" and are not here legally, whereas the migrant workers are here "legally" (yeah, I know...) You have not seen their documents and know nothing about their situation but are merely judging by appearances. These people build the places we stay in doing a dirty and dangerous job. You have no right to judge them or criticize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: You have not seen their documents and know nothing about their situation but are merely judging by appearances. These people build the places we stay in doing a dirty and dangerous job. You have no right to judge them or criticize them. Sensitive much? How my stating that they are here legally is some sort of judgement or criticism of those workers is beyond my comprehension. As for the implied sarcasm, it was directed at those who are exploiting those poor workers, but I suppose that was just a bit too complicated for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Why aren't all the unemployed Thai's protesting that these Burmese migrants are taking their jobs? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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