Chonburi Governor releases new orders easing Covid-19 restrictions effective from today, alcohol sales ban at restaurants, etc. stays however

[Skeptic7]

3 hours ago, smedly said:

Pattaya is now a Green Zone

Where can the current color-coded Covid Zones be found? 

[ChipButty]

3 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Where can the current color-coded Covid Zones be found? 

Not in Pattaya

[brewsterbudgen]

So not allowing alcohol sales in restaurants in Chonburi/Pattaya is a local decision?

[smedly]

15 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Where can the current color-coded Covid Zones be found? 

Thailand increases “Blue Zone” destinations to 26, eases more COVID-19 curbs nationwide - Thailand News - ASEAN NOW - News, Travel & Forum

[smedly]

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

So not allowing alcohol sales in restaurants in Chonburi/Pattaya is a local decision?

looks like it

[brewsterbudgen]

3 minutes ago, smedly said:

looks like it

In which case I'm surprised the local protests and petitions have been so ineffective.

[Mr Meeseeks]

27 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

In which case I'm surprised the local protests and petitions have been so ineffective.

They are a local mafia working towards an agenda. Not answerable to the public in any way, shape or form. 

[morrobay]

3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

They are a local mafia working towards an agenda. Not answerable to the public in any way, shape or form. 

This is getting confusing. This article says the mayor wants to open for alcohol. So the "they" above are working against the mayor ?  I thought the alcohol ban was coming down from the elites in Bangkok. Care to elaborate ?https://thepattayanews.com/2021/11/29/pattaya-city-mayor-pushing-to-allow-alcohol-sales-in-restaurants-and-to-reopen-entertainment-venues-as-a-test-zone-in-pattaya-after-fireworks-festival-was-a-success/

[aussienam]

15 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I believe that too....it is as if they want to put all these small businesses out of business.... squeeze them out, meaning property owners will be unable to rent, and forced to sell at a reduced price. Someone will come in and clean up here......

Force tenants to vacate the land, then convince owners to sell when no more rental income in a dead town.  Maybe part of the secret casino plans?!?!? Maybe this is the secret agenda????  

[Boyn]

15 hours ago, ezzra said:

So let me understand this for a moment, you can go to a places of entertainment like bars and restaurants sit down have a meal of some soft drinks but NO alcohol... i wish Einstein was alive, maybe he could figure out this conundrum way of thinking...

If you want logical thought Thailand is probably not the place to be looking

[jacko45k]

21 hours ago, Grusa said:

It would be interesting to know how much has been lost by Boon Rawd, Thai Bev, etc., as a result of covid restrictions.

 

It can't be very much, or they would be screaming....... and have the pull to get what they want.

Ah, but how are the numbers  offset any potential earnings from large land investments, like the purchase of the Grand Sole Hotel and surrounding areas. 

[Thujone]

On 12/2/2021 at 5:19 AM, smedly said:

This hasn't and still doesn't make any sense - there is something very underhand and sinister going on with this especially concerning restaurants 

Unless they are planning a Sihanoukville-style transformation of Pattaya, when casinos are legalised, which seems likely to happen.

 

Even though Hua Hin has been slated as a casino hub, Pattaya would make much more sense, with an airport just down the road, and Suvarnabhumi a couple of hours drive away.

It would also explain the extensive and long-term road construction which has been occurring on the sukhumvit between U-Tapao and Pattaya, which seems a lot of expense and effort for Chinese tour groups.

 

The old fart bars will increasingly permanently shut down the longer the booze ban drags on, and the new variation of the illness just announced makes a January 16th opening seem optimistic.

Restaurants and other venues will also shut as tourists find restricted Pattaya less tempting to visit.

Made in Thailand-style demolitions may be seen in several areas.

Speculators could buy up the land with a view to building hotels and casinos in the relatively near future.

They are likely to have a handle on how close this casino-legalising near future will be...

 

Sihanoukville was transformed from being largely low-level houses and shacks to a mini-Macau in a relatively short time.

[kinyara]

34 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Ah, but how are the numbers  offset any potential earnings from large land investments, like the purchase of the Grand Sole Hotel and surrounding areas. 

That's exactly how I see it, pretty sure the 4 big conglomerates have significant property divisions whose acquisition of distressed assets will no doubt in the long-term  exceed the temporary downturn from other affected revenue streams. Let's not forgert that alcohol retail sales have not been banned this time,  so the 2 big producing conglomerates/monopolies continue producing with a more simplified distribution network to their mate in the 1 big retail conglomerate/monopoly being now the primary retail outlet throughout the country selling alcohol. The malls have never been shut so the retail/shopping conglomerate has continued to operate unhindered and seemingly accumulate the cash to launch a multi billion dollar flagship overseas acquisition.  I very much doubt the original state /business conglomerate meeting at the start of the pandemic had much to do with helping the country and more to do with how the rules could be structured to benefit themselves.

[moogradod]

23 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Seems to me they want to flatten the place and build a Monti Carlo of Thailand

Have been to Monte Carlo for a holiday. And after flattening everything here they can, they may build whatever nice buildings and parks and whatever they can think of instead. It will never become near to a Monte Carlo - even with a casino not. It is the kind of crowd they would fail to attract that would make the place. Isn't there a saying "Cobbler, stick to your last" ? That they obviously do not want to follow that (in many cases) successful rule is probably - as many point out here - part of some master plan but might root in an overestimation of ones own current capabilities.

[LennyW]

4 hours ago, kinyara said:

I very much doubt the original state /business conglomerate meeting at the start of the pandemic had much to do with helping the country and more to do with how the rules could be structured to benefit themselves.

Thailand in a nutshell!

[Mr Meeseeks]

21 hours ago, morrobay said:

This is getting confusing. This article says the mayor wants to open for alcohol. So the "they" above are working against the mayor ?  I thought the alcohol ban was coming down from the elites in Bangkok. Care to elaborate ?https://thepattayanews.com/2021/11/29/pattaya-city-mayor-pushing-to-allow-alcohol-sales-in-restaurants-and-to-reopen-entertainment-venues-as-a-test-zone-in-pattaya-after-fireworks-festival-was-a-success/

You have to recognise that Thais in positions of power tend to say one thing and do the opposite. 

 

The family that controls Pattaya and Chonburi is directly aligned with this current government, and has a family member in a cabinet position.

[Mr Meeseeks]

5 hours ago, Thujone said:

Unless they are planning a Sihanoukville-style transformation of Pattaya, when casinos are legalised, which seems likely to happen.

 

Even though Hua Hin has been slated as a casino hub, Pattaya would make much more sense, with an airport just down the road, and Suvarnabhumi a couple of hours drive away.

It would also explain the extensive and long-term road construction which has been occurring on the sukhumvit between U-Tapao and Pattaya, which seems a lot of expense and effort for Chinese tour groups.

 

The old fart bars will increasingly permanently shut down the longer the booze ban drags on, and the new variation of the illness just announced makes a January 16th opening seem optimistic.

Restaurants and other venues will also shut as tourists find restricted Pattaya less tempting to visit.

Made in Thailand-style demolitions may be seen in several areas.

Speculators could buy up the land with a view to building hotels and casinos in the relatively near future.

They are likely to have a handle on how close this casino-legalising near future will be...

 

Sihanoukville was transformed from being largely low-level houses and shacks to a mini-Macau in a relatively short time.

The transportation networks are being upgraded as part of the 20-year EEC plan, along with Utapao airport expansion, which aims to target 60 million passengers per annum eventually.

 

It's not specifically for Chinese tourism, just part of the overall Eastern Economic Corridor project which involves cruise ship terminals, massive logistics bases, high speed rail network, and much more. 

[Thujone]

44 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

The transportation networks are being upgraded as part of the 20-year EEC plan, along with Utapao airport expansion, which aims to target 60 million passengers per annum eventually.

 

It's not specifically for Chinese tourism, just part of the overall Eastern Economic Corridor project which involves cruise ship terminals, massive logistics bases, high speed rail network, and much more. 

That's interesting.

But that doesn't mean there isn't going to be something to draw large groups of well-off people to Thailand.

Who will make use of all that infrastructure.

Casinos, perhaps...

Which means the many bar beers, cheap restaurants and so on in Pattaya are in the way of new development.

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, Thujone said:

That's interesting.

But that doesn't mean there isn't going to be something to draw large groups of well-off people to Thailand.

Who will make use of all that infrastructure.

Casinos, perhaps...

Which means the many bar beers, cheap restaurants and so on in Pattaya are in the way of new development.

Disney...