Thai immigration online 90 day reporting system

[Liquorice]

1 hour ago, petedk said:

I was informed today that the 90 day online system is not working. This was from immigration in Hua Hin

 

Anyone know if this is true?

 

Well, I can certainly log in and complete the online form.

[steve73]

On 11/6/2024 at 4:00 PM, petedk said:

I was informed today that the 90 day online system is not working. This was from immigration in Hua Hin

 

Anyone know if this is true?

 

 

I didn't get a reminder when mine was due, but remembered and applied within the window.  Took a few days longer than usual to approve, but it finally came through on the 6th Nov.

[guyfromtheweb2]

On 10/25/2024 at 5:59 PM, guyfromtheweb2 said:

 

Update:  I finally received my receipt for my recent 90-day report.  It took about 11 weeks from the date I mailed it through EMS!  Just in time for my next 90-day report that is due in a few weeks.  😔

 

Update: After submitting my 90-day forms through EMS snail-mail, following my re-entry into Thailand, and getting the receipt 11 weeks later, I completed my next 90-day report online.  It was approved within a day.

 

Now I guess I can resume online reporting every 90 days, until I leave the country again . . . 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I submitted my 90-day report online to BKK CW on Saturday, and got back the approval receipt via email today (Monday). Everything went smoothly from start to finish. Hard to argue with that!

[Old Croc]

The reminder system didn't work for me for the first time since inception, which has resulted in me being about 3 weeks overdue. I know I should have had a backup system in place.

My problem now is how to proceed. I believe I can't now submit it on-line, instead must visit my IO in person. While a fine is annoying, the main pain is the 2-hour drive (130 kms) to my IO just to sort out this petty matter. My driver is busy at the moment with harvesting. There are no agents anywhere in my vicinity. My next extension is in April.

Does anyone know of a way to sort it without a visit?

Perhaps leave it until April, they can only fine me once?  Hope the rumored non-Immi visa changes make frequent reports redundant. 

Lodge it on-line and hope it is accepted - unlikely.

Thanks for any suggestions.

[LosLobo]

6 hours ago, Old Croc said:

The reminder system didn't work for me for the first time since inception, which has resulted in me being about 3 weeks overdue. I know I should have had a backup system in place.

My problem now is how to proceed. I believe I can't now submit it on-line, instead must visit my IO in person. While a fine is annoying, the main pain is the 2-hour drive (130 kms) to my IO just to sort out this petty matter. My driver is busy at the moment with harvesting. There are no agents anywhere in my vicinity. My next extension is in April.

Does anyone know of a way to sort it without a visit?

Perhaps leave it until April, they can only fine me once?  Hope the rumored non-Immi visa changes make frequent reports redundant. 

Lodge it on-line and hope it is accepted - unlikely.

Thanks for any suggestions.

I would post a topic in the main body of this Forum, this pinned area can escape attention.

[Old Croc]

3 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

I would post a topic in the main body of this Forum, this pinned area can escape attention.

Thanks for the suggestion, it does seem a bit quiet here.

I rarely ask for advice on the forum any more as there are too many who respond to genuine requests with unhelpful advice, weak jokes or criticism of spelling errors.

I'll give it a day or two and see what happens,

[LosLobo]

Just now, Old Croc said:

Thanks for the suggestion, it does seem a bit quiet here.

I rarely ask for advice on the forum any more as there are too many who respond to genuine requests with unhelpful advice, weak jokes or criticism of spelling errors.

I'll give it a day or two and see what happens,

I can give you a response from AI on your problem, but you would get a better one from @DrJack54.

I only did my first online 90 day reporting today after a hiatus of seven years, so my opinion might be off.

I have a return trip of 120 kms to my IO so I regularly call and ask over the phone when I have an issue.

But, I would suggest a personal visit ASAP in your case would be the best bet but can see its currently problematic for you.

[guyfromtheweb2]

12 hours ago, Old Croc said:

The reminder system didn't work for me for the first time since inception, which has resulted in me being about 3 weeks overdue. I know I should have had a backup system in place.

My problem now is how to proceed. I believe I can't now submit it on-line, instead must visit my IO in person. While a fine is annoying, the main pain is the 2-hour drive (130 kms) to my IO just to sort out this petty matter. My driver is busy at the moment with harvesting. There are no agents anywhere in my vicinity. My next extension is in April.

Does anyone know of a way to sort it without a visit?

Perhaps leave it until April, they can only fine me once?  Hope the rumored non-Immi visa changes make frequent reports redundant. 

Lodge it on-line and hope it is accepted - unlikely.

Thanks for any suggestions.

@Old Croc  Don't rush it.  Now that you are late, you are late.  There is no penalty for being "even more late."  After the 7-day post-due-date grace period for in-person submission of your 90-day, it doesn't matter if you are eight days late or eight months late.  The fine will be the same: 2000 baht.  Don't waste your energy rushing to immigration.  They will make you pay the exact same fine when you renew your visa in April.  Just wait and pay in April at the same time you do your visa extension.

 

Edited Monday at 01:22 PM by guyfromtheweb2

[LosLobo]

10 hours ago, guyfromtheweb2 said:

@Old Croc  Don't rush it.  Now that you are late, you are late.  There is no penalty for being "even more late."  After the 7-day post-due-date grace period for in-person submission of your 90-day, it doesn't matter if you are eight days late or eight months late.  The fine will be the same: 2000 baht.  Don't waste your energy rushing to immigration.  They will make you pay the exact same fine when you renew your visa in April.  Just wait and pay in April at the same time you do your visa extension.

 

Except if you get arrested and the fine gets increased to 5,000 baht with an additional 200 baht a day until you comply.

[Old Croc]

16 hours ago, LosLobo said:

I can give you a response from AI on your problem, but you would get a better one from @DrJack54.

I only did my first online 90 day reporting today after a hiatus of seven years, so my opinion might be off.

I have a return trip of 120 kms to my IO so I regularly call and ask over the phone when I have an issue.

But, I would suggest a personal visit ASAP in your case would be the best bet but can see its currently problematic for you.

Thanks for your input. 

It might be interesting to hear what AI suggested. I don't expect any contact from the member you mentioned.

I will just have to find a free day to get to the Immi office to sort it out. I'll combine it with a bank visit to fix some address issues before my new debit card is issued in a month or so. My nearest bank branch is also hours from my location.

 

In the meantime, I'll try to avoid arrest!

[Old Croc]

11 hours ago, guyfromtheweb2 said:

@Old Croc  Don't rush it.  Now that you are late, you are late.  There is no penalty for being "even more late."  After the 7-day post-due-date grace period for in-person submission of your 90-day, it doesn't matter if you are eight days late or eight months late.  The fine will be the same: 2000 baht.  Don't waste your energy rushing to immigration.  They will make you pay the exact same fine when you renew your visa in April.  Just wait and pay in April at the same time you do your visa extension.

 

Thanks for your comments.

I seriously considered this having read that someone else has claimed he doesn't do reports, just pays the fine with his extension each time.

I'm not sure this is a sustainable solution to the idiotic reporting regime, but interesting.

However, as I've just realized my new bank debit card may not find its way to me, and I can't fix it online, it makes sense to find a day to sort the issues. Lazada and a small angry Thai lady would be very upset if I couldn't access my account.

[BrandonJT]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

Except if you get arrested and the fine gets increased to 5,000 baht with an additional 200 baht a day until you comply.

I've literally never heard of this happening to anyone. No one checks your TM47 status until you are at the immigration office for something.

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Old Croc said:

Thanks for your input. 

It might be interesting to hear what AI suggested. I don't expect any contact from the member you mentioned.

I will just have to find a free day to get to the Immi office to sort it out. I'll combine it with a bank visit to fix some address issues before my new debit card is issued in a month or so. My nearest bank branch is also hours from my location.

 

In the meantime, I'll try to avoid arrest!

AI: 
It sounds like you're in a tricky situation with the overdue 90-day report in Thailand. Here are a few suggestions for how you might proceed:

1. Visit in Person: While it’s inconvenient, the safest and most straightforward option is to visit your Immigration Office (IO) in person. Some IOs may allow you to pay a fine for late reporting without needing to submit additional paperwork, though it depends on the office's discretion.

2. Contact Your Immigration Office: Before making the 2-hour drive, it might be worth calling or emailing your local IO to explain the situation. Some offices may allow you to pay the fine remotely or provide guidance on how to proceed without physically visiting the office. While not all IOs are flexible, some may accept online submissions if you explain your circumstances.

3. Online Submission: If you try submitting the 90-day report online, even though it may not be accepted due to the late filing, it’s still worth trying. If it’s rejected, at least you’ll have a record of your attempt.

4. Extension in April: If you decide to wait until your next extension in April, you may be able to explain the situation when submitting the required documentation for the extension. Immigration officers may issue a fine, but it might be easier to handle as part of the extension process. However, this could depend on your IO’s policies.

5. Backup System for Next Time: Since you mentioned the reminder system failed, consider setting up a personal reminder in advance for future reports. This way, you won’t have to worry about missing deadlines in the future.

Ultimately, the best course of action is likely contacting the IO directly to see if there are any exceptions or ways to sort it without the visit. If that doesn’t work, it may be worth just biting the bullet and making the drive to avoid further complications.

 

[Maestro]

17 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Except if you get arrested and the fine gets increased to 5,000 baht with an additional 200 baht a day until you comply.

 

Not quite, but the Immigration Bureau tries to make you believe that it is so with a page on their website.

[Old Croc]

22 hours ago, LosLobo said:

AI: 
It sounds like you're in a tricky situation with the overdue 90-day report in Thailand. Here are a few suggestions for how you might proceed:

1. Visit in Person: While it’s inconvenient, the safest and most straightforward option is to visit your Immigration Office (IO) in person. Some IOs may allow you to pay a fine for late reporting without needing to submit additional paperwork, though it depends on the office's discretion.

2. Contact Your Immigration Office: Before making the 2-hour drive, it might be worth calling or emailing your local IO to explain the situation. Some offices may allow you to pay the fine remotely or provide guidance on how to proceed without physically visiting the office. While not all IOs are flexible, some may accept online submissions if you explain your circumstances.

3. Online Submission: If you try submitting the 90-day report online, even though it may not be accepted due to the late filing, it’s still worth trying. If it’s rejected, at least you’ll have a record of your attempt.

4. Extension in April: If you decide to wait until your next extension in April, you may be able to explain the situation when submitting the required documentation for the extension. Immigration officers may issue a fine, but it might be easier to handle as part of the extension process. However, this could depend on your IO’s policies.

5. Backup System for Next Time: Since you mentioned the reminder system failed, consider setting up a personal reminder in advance for future reports. This way, you won’t have to worry about missing deadlines in the future.

Ultimately, the best course of action is likely contacting the IO directly to see if there are any exceptions or ways to sort it without the visit. If that doesn’t work, it may be worth just biting the bullet and making the drive to avoid further complications.

 

Amazing, AI came up with pretty well every thought I had on the situation! It even covered the possibility of paying a fine remotely.

I had already decided to put in a late report online, get the refusal and use that to indicate my attempt to comply.

The one big unknown is the attitude of the Immigration individuals making decisions. 

 

Thankyou LosLobo, for this

[marin]

Sort of an update on the 90 day online reporting. Until May of this year I had been 5 years without leaving the country and the online system had worked perfectly. 

 

Went out for a month May-June then the first of September went to CW to do my 90 day report in person as I was returning to Thailand on a reentry permit.  

 

When I went to fill out the form online I had to begin again as all my information was gone. Completed it and sent it in 5pm yesterday. I just now got the approval back. 

 

So other than having to go to CW after a trip abroad it does seem to be working fine now.