webfact Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 TAK, Dec 17 (TNA) – About 1,000 Myanmar people fled a clash between Myanmar soldiers and ethnic troops on their homeland and crossed the Moei River to take shelter in Mae Sot district. The clash between Myanmar soldiers and troops of the Karen National Union happened in Myawaddy opposite Mae Sot at noon. People at the center of Mae Sot district heard gunshots clearly. Myanmar people ran for life from their bank of the Moei River. Some swam across it. Children and elderly people took boats to the Mae Sot bank. More than 1,000 Myanmar people fled to the Thai bank of the Moei River. Full story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news/line-today-english-news-844429 -- © Copyright TNA 2021-12-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 I have friends in Myanmar and they tell me life is an absolute misery right now and extremely dangerous. I can't blame people for running for their lives, though I would like more information on what the Thai authorities are doing with those who have fled. What with the covid threat and the normal uncaring attitude to their neighbours at the best of times, you have to hope they will not force-ably repatriate them. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Aylesham Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, darksidedog said: I have friends in Myanmar and they tell me life is an absolute misery right now and extremely dangerous. I can't blame people for running for their lives, though I would like more information on what the Thai authorities are doing with those who have fled. What with the covid threat and the normal uncaring attitude to their neighbours at the best of times, you have to hope they will not force-ably repatriate them. Thais uncaring? no way - they already have around 100,000 refugees in their country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, George Aylesham said: Thais uncaring? no way - they already have around 100,000 refugees in their country. "You think me uncaring because I cut off your finger?!! You have nine more!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) I wonder why the international community doesn't just oust the military govt and give back the power to the common people? Isn't that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan? Edited December 17, 2021 by EricTh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dddave Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, EricTh said: I wonder why the international community doesn't just oust the military govt and give back the power to the common people? Isn't that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan? More often than not, a despotic government deposed by force is soon replaced by an even more despotic government. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roquefort Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, EricTh said: I wonder why the international community doesn't just oust the military govt and give back the power to the common people? Isn't that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan? That worked out well, didn't it. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Card Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, EricTh said: I wonder why the international community doesn't just oust the military govt and give back the power to the common people? Isn't that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan? .......and the answer is .........China 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Card Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, dddave said: More often than not, a despotic government deposed by force is soon replaced by an even more despotic government. There is no more despotic govt than that of the military terrorists in Naypyidaw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, darksidedog said: I have friends in Myanmar and they tell me life is an absolute misery right now and extremely dangerous. I can't blame people for running for their lives, though I would like more information on what the Thai authorities are doing with those who have fled. What with the covid threat and the normal uncaring attitude to their neighbours at the best of times, you have to hope they will not force-ably repatriate them. I have lived, travelled or worked in over 50 countries but the saddest most frightened were in Burma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Card said: There is no more despotic govt than that of the military terrorists in Naypyidaw. Well, maybe North Korea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 hours ago, darksidedog said: I have friends in Myanmar and they tell me life is an absolute misery right now and extremely dangerous. I can't blame people for running for their lives, though I would like more information on what the Thai authorities are doing with those who have fled. What with the covid threat and the normal uncaring attitude to their neighbours at the best of times, you have to hope they will not force-ably repatriate them. They will be held in make-shift camps and as soon as possible will be sent back. Thailand has a poor record of helping refugees, but a good one for sending them back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Henry Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 And to think many Americans want to re elect a despot who wants to have an authoritarian government run by him and his family to increase their wealth and power and jail his opponents now most of his other scams are closing in on him. Remember America the "LAND OF THE FREE" Lets hope it still is after 2024 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toany Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 did they have a vaccine QR code and insurance? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 hours ago, EricTh said: I wonder why the international community doesn't just oust the military govt and give back the power to the common people? Isn't that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan? Would have to oust the regime in Beijing first! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just hope they all get a Covid RT-PCR test 48 hours before crossing the border, and then stay 3 weeks in quarantine with new tests every 72 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ericbj Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 9 hours ago, EricTh said: I wonder why the international community doesn't just oust the military govt and give back the power to the common people? Isn't that what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan? No, it did not happen in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nor in some other places, such as Libya, or Vietnam. Wars have been sold to the public - even before the days of Edward Bernays - on the basis of altruistic motives. But follow the money. Qui bono ? My suspicion is that western investments in China discourage effective support for the N.U.G. Verbal criticism and shadow boxing with China and its satelite state are all that can be expected. China and Russia, two permanent members of the U.N.S.C., are supportive of Min Aung Hlaing's military regime. There was less polarisation into two power-blocs when western nations, led by the U.S., intervened in the Middle East. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I remember talking to a Thai master sergeant around 1990. I think it was in Mae Sam Laep (near Mae Sariang) on the Salween river, but it could have been further north. This guy’s English was pretty good, and he told me some pretty unsettling stories about his time as a ranger doing border patrols during the 70’s and 80’s. While we were talking, I could hear artillery fire just a few miles away across the border and I had heard and read about shells landing on the wrong side of the border, in Thailand, so I didn’t feel 100% safe. It was hard to imagine that wars had been going on over there for more than 40 years already. And now, 30 years on, these wars are still going on, and apparently they sometimes still spill over into Thailand. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted December 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2021 5 hours ago, hotchilli said: They will be held in make-shift camps and as soon as possible will be sent back. Thailand has a poor record of helping refugees, but a good one for sending them back. If I’m not mistaken, Thailand has sent back North Korean refugees. That tells you all you need to know about their attitude towards people who flee their countries because of a brutal authoritarian regime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: If I’m not mistaken, Thailand has sent back North Korean refugees. That tells you all you need to know about their attitude towards people who flee their countries because of a brutal authoritarian regime. You are actually mistaken there . Thailand sends North Korean refugees "back" to South Korea , rather than back to the North 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: If I’m not mistaken, Thailand has sent back North Korean refugees. That tells you all you need to know about their attitude towards people who flee their countries because of a brutal authoritarian regime. You might be thinking about the 100 Uyghur refugees forcibly sent back to China in 2015. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-uighurs-china-idUSKCN0PJ0E120150709 As Mac pointed out, all NK refugees are sent to SK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 20 hours ago, dddave said: More often than not, a despotic government deposed by force is soon replaced by an even more despotic government. I mean replaced by the previous govt by Aung Sang Su Ki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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