Opinion: The right thing to do

[Virt]

14 hours ago, khunPer said:

Incubation period might be up to three weeks for Omicron - according to Norwegian study - Delta is about two weeks. With a PCR test taken up to 72 hours before departure you might already be infected, or you can be infected between test and boarding the aircraft, if not from aboard the aircraft from other infected passengers. PCR test, isolation, and if negative permission to board, might make more sense, but might also not be 100 percent safe; only perfect safe guard seems to be the Down Under-method: "no entry"...????

3 weeks sounds very long for a fast spreading virus does it not?

This article says it's less than 5 days and faster than the delta.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/health/omicron-incubation-period-days-signs-b1981265.html%3famp

 

If it really were 3 weeks wouldn't south Africa had seen a crazy spike the last two weeks?

[Enzian]

If the government were smart (I know, I know...) they would pay from government funds for every case of unexpected quarantine on arrival. The cost would be a drop in the bucket compared to juice added to the general economy from increased arrivals.

[JCauto]

On 12/24/2021 at 11:00 AM, Mavideol said:

last night CNA Singapore news had a great investigative report about Thailand and it's poor ways of dealing with Covid all the people interviewed disagreed with governments poor actions

Well, just you wait until the next government-sponsored poll! You'll see how popular they are and how the REAL people of Thailand still love Prayuth! Fake news!

Where have all the regime cheerleaders gone to, besides the Nida polling station?

[NoshowJones]

23 hours ago, khunPer said:

According to the news articles at that time, the VVIPs were visting the infected amusement establishments from 25th March till 5th April, Songkran began at April 13th with folks commuting a few days in advance; i.e. if the government had stopped the Song Kran festivities, and especially people travelling, the 3rd wave might have been better controlled. The knowledge about Covid-outbreak and VVIPs were in the news already April 10th so public known by that time,

 

The responsible managers of both night clubs in question - Krystal Club and Emerald Club - were quickly sentenced to two month in prison each, early in June.

????

But were the sentences carried out and not just suspended?

[Bluetongue]

There wouldn't be many countries that have got it right throughout the pandemic. In terms of health, economic and social impacts, its a difficult balancing act. Many would argue the economic impacts of "let it rip" or similar are as bad as the health impacts. One of the most annoying things about Australia for instance was politicians hiding behind unseen "medical advice". I have suspected all along the medical advice was smoothly transmuted into red tape by an Orwellian bureaucratic process. So there were greater social impacts in Australia with its closed internal and external borders and the punitive lockdowns with emphasis on penalties and enforcement. Long were we a penal colony, little did we know we still were. Otherwise the health and economic impacts weren't too bad although the economic effect is still being digested. But now places that were in lockdown over a single case are now tolerating 700 without comment. Is that the living with Covid?; probably.

 

But here the economic effects have obviously been terrible, even here in my rural area the numbers of shuttered businesses exceeds the usual number ten fold. The Government hasn't a care in the world for the people, kids aren't going to school. Obviously 40 million tourist's couldn't/wouldn't come during a pandemic but there should have been a dip into the foreign reserves to stimulate alternatives. IMHO. This current snafu won't make much difference either way, the TG program was too small a number anyway.

[daveAustin]

On 12/24/2021 at 3:12 AM, Pouatchee said:

Have the HiSo's and gvt leaders been jailed yet?

Gaol or jail is fine. But we don’t do grammar policing here; you’ll be made to stand in the corner if you’re not careful. 

[daveAustin]

People are largely vaxxed, aren’t they? Not the same as the Songkran scenario. It’s coming regardless so let’s just move on with our lives. Opening and shutting for the next 1000 years is not an option. 

[Pouatchee]

39 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Gaol or jail is fine. But we don’t do grammar policing here; you’ll be made to stand in the corner if you’re not careful. 

Gaol? Really... that word hasn't been used in the west for over a century. Just love language romantics trying to show off their vocab... and it ain't grammar policing... you mean spelling... 

[zzaa09]

3 hours ago, daveAustin said:

People are largely vaxxed, aren’t they? Not the same as the Songkran scenario. It’s coming regardless so let’s just move on with our lives. Opening and shutting for the next 1000 years is not an option. 

After nearly two years a consistent 2.4% fatality rate [of 400-500 million infected], one would think that intelligent and free thinking folks would've wised up by now. 

[bkk_bwana]

On 12/24/2021 at 10:28 AM, finnsk said:

If all the flight compagnies, who are flying to LOS, where more responsible about controlling for covid, it should not be necassary to make this close down for tourists.

 

An example: A couple from Scandinavia want to have their Cristmas and new year in LOS, they take all the tests before and have all the quality vax, when they enter the plane to LOS, every thing should be ok. When they arrived in LOS they get tested positive ............, where do they get infected ? 

 

I will not make a lot of conspirations theories, but who is making a lot of dirty money on the covid positive tourists, when they arrive in LOS ?

 

When they arrived in Thailand they get placed/isolated in an overpriced state quaratine hotel, that was ok with them, they do not have any symptoms, but understand the situation, after a few days they get forced to move to a private hospital, where they can spread the infection and get bankrupt, that is not ok. One of the couples is a leading scribent on one of the biggest breakfast papers in scandinavia, he is writing very angry, he is now becomming an negative salesman for LOS with more than 500.000 daily readers.

 

They understand how to take care of the COVID and tourist buisness in lo.........

 

 

The quarantine hotels are not overpriced. They are reasonable. 15 nights in a hotel, three meals a day, three tests for 32,000 Baht. That's 2,000 a night. When was that ever unreasonable?

[Trip Hop]

On 12/24/2021 at 11:28 AM, khunPer said:

Incubation period might be up to three weeks for Omicron - according to Norwegian study - Delta is about two weeks. With a PCR test taken up to 72 hours before departure you might already be infected, or you can be infected between test and boarding the aircraft, if not from aboard the aircraft from other infected passengers. PCR test, isolation, and if negative permission to board, might make more sense, but might also not be 100 percent safe; only perfect safe guard seems to be the Down Under-method: "no entry"...????

The WHO are of the opinion that the incubation period for Omicron is more like 3-5 days. That is how it spreads so fast.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-omicron-incubation-period-days-b1982233.html%3famp