Grim worst case for Thailand next year if people lower their guard against COVID-19

[mommysboy]

53 minutes ago, DjSilver said:

It's okay, better to let the people be free than to have restrictions. Start first with removing the ridiculous mandatory face mask.

Now is actually the time to take sensible precautions!  

 

Freedom is more than just being unrestricted- after all we're free to to jump off a cliff but not many do it.

[MadMac]

Don't forget, Anutin wants to become the next Prayuth. Kind of tricky without being a general, but who knows. Just spread enough fud and then be the hero.

[MadMac]

2 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Now is actually the time to take sensible precautions! 

Certainly. But it is not being helped by fearmongers spreading panic.

[Cake Monster]

18 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is grim if the continued complacency and lack of social distancing and mask wearing continues.  On the morning walk today as we went by a few street food cart sellers, the folks operating the cart and making the food, were not wearing masks, and yet the lines at 7:30 am were long as folks picked up food to take to work today and they did not seem bothered by this fact, or they did not care.

 

My Housekeeper, who is also a live in and has her own room, mentioned this to the GF yesterday.  She had the day off as she does every Sunday, and upon returning from stepping out in the morning was completely besides herself over this fact.

If the projection of 30,000 cases of Omicron per Day proved to be correct, and they actually happened, I would not be the least bit surprised.

Every Day I see many people, both Thai, and Farang not wearing Masks correctly or not wearing them at all.

Just yesterday, my Daughter who is 18, asked me " why do Americans think that its OK not to wear a mask ? "

Now, I am not saying that its specifically people from the USA that are rogue, but there an awful lot of Farangs now that seem to think they have shucked off any responsibility towards other Folk the moment they planted their size 10,s on Thai soil.

Thailand is a home now for many of us, we are not 2 week Millionaires, so if you are one of the rogue people, have some respect for all others that live here on a permanent basis, and have to pick up your mess after you have gone home.

 

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

If the projection of 30,000 cases of Omicron per Day proved to be correct, and they actually happened, I would not be the least bit surprised.

Every Day I see many people, both Thai, and Farang not wearing Masks correctly or not wearing them at all.

Just yesterday, my Daughter who is 18, asked me " why do Americans think that its OK not to wear a mask ? "

Now, I am not saying that its specifically people from the USA that are rogue, but there an awful lot of Farangs now that seem to think they have shucked off any responsibility towards other Folk the moment they planted their size 10,s on Thai soil.

Thailand is a home now for many of us, we are not 2 week Millionaires, so if you are one of the rogue people, have some respect for all others that live here on a permanent basis, and have to pick up your mess after you have gone home.

 

Still double masking myself with a KN95 and a Cloth KN95 over the paper one on our trips out. Gotta love the looks I get from the unmasked foreigners.  The look of "This guy is afraid of the world". Nope, sorry but being safe and protecting oneself while enjoying life is not an issue for me.      

[Stargeezr]

In USA and Canada there are tons of people getting sick from COVID, and there are still many

going to hospitals. The health staff are pretty much burned out, and lots are quitting. There 

are people in all work areas getting sick, pilots, flight attendants, and many other front line workers.

  This does not make the situation any less dire. The lack of people able to work is going to affect

so many industries that the effects will be bad all over.

  Keep your eyes on the TV programs around the world, more interesting times to come.

[peter zwart]

Then i would go for option one if it seems that Omicron is not realy dangerous anymore.

[webfact]

Level 3 Alert Issued due to Omicron spread

 

 

The Ministry of Public Health has raised Thailand’s COVID-19 alert to Level 3 amid rising Omicron coronavirus infections, while warning that new daily cases could reach as high as 30,000 in early 2022 unless strict measures are taken to curb the spread.

 

Dr Kiattiphum Wongrajit, permanent secretary to the Ministry of Public Health, said at a press briefing that the ministry resolved to raise the Kingdom’s alert level after new Omicron cases surged from 104 last Wednesday (Dec 22) to 514 on Monday (Dec 27).

 

The ministry has also calculated three possible epidemiological scenarios for the COVID-19 situation next year.

For the best-case scenario, Dr Kiattiphum said the number of new daily infections could average around 10,000 as early as late January.

 

The second-best scenario, which calls for a moderate level of control, would see 15,000-16,000 new daily cases over roughly the same period.

 

For the worst-case scenario, in which no additional precautions are taken against the highly transmissible variant, the number of new daily cases would reach as high as 30,000.

 

Dr. Kiattiphum said the fatality rate would increase to 170-180 daily deaths in the worst-case scenario. However, that figure could fall to around 60-70 daily deaths given more stringent measures and accelerated vaccine rollouts.

 

Projections provided at the briefing showed daily Omicron cases peaking in late January or early February in the best and second-best scenarios, with the outbreak being brought under control within 1-2 months.

 

For the worst-case scenario, new cases would peak in early March before seeing a decline, with health authorities taking 3-4 months to bring the situation under control.

 

The permanent secretary also noted that while the ministry did not expect the fatality rate to be as high as for the Delta variant, the highly infectious nature of the Omicron strain meant vulnerable groups should quickly get vaccinated.

 

Of the 514 confirmed Omicron cases in Thailand, around 90% were asymptomatic or exhibited mild symptoms.

Dr Kiattiphum also assured that there would be sufficient beds and medical supplies to deal with new infections, with 170,000 hospital beds and 15 million favipiravir pills currently available.

 

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong, di rector-general of the Department of Disease Control (DDC), meanwhile said the alert was raised to Level 3 in order to enable authorities to step up prevention, detection and control efforts.

 

He added that air conditioned restaurants must ensure their staff are fully vaccinated and take regular antigen tests, while cautioning that the New Year period is likely to see a rise in new cases due to the increased movement of people during the holidays.

 

Dr Opas also advised offices to maintain work-from-home approaches to limit the spread of infection.

 

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[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, Big Bert said:

But mutton chops said Omicron was no match for Thai doctors. did he speak an untruth? 

A bit like an ant.. on it's own no problem.. but

when they come in their millions... look out.

[Neeranam]

19 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is grim if the continued complacency and lack of social distancing and mask wearing continues.  On the morning walk today as we went by a few street food cart sellers, the folks operating the cart and making the food, were not wearing masks, and yet the lines at 7:30 am were long as folks picked up food to take to work today and they did not seem bothered by this fact, or they did not care.

 

Yet, I see fools alone in their cars wearing masks. I even saw a guy walking round the park wearing a mask, with no one in hearing distance of him, stupid. 

[PumpkinEater]

It is been shown that Omicron is a milder flu like illness.

Let it spread and and complete a herd immunity scenario.

I had three family members w the covid, and they had very mild to lay in bed for five days sickness…now walking around just fine. The premise that we are all to die from this is false!

Instead of this useless testing that they do (as you can contract the illness immediately AFTER a negative test), they should test people for natural antibodies and see if they are protected. Why inject yourself with the antibody when you may naturally have it from a possible asymptomatic exposure  There should be a choice of an antibody test or covid test and vaccines.

At this point with the non lethal Omicron, I really think this is a huge overreaction by the CDC and governments. They are throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. 4 shots!??? Cmon already!

Masks?! While riding a motorbike and at the beaches? Cmon people get real!

Obviously if a person is vulnerable they should get protected as much as possible, but to mandate the healthy to uncompromising and illogical actions is really unjust.

1. Let Omicron complete herd immunity.

2. Test for your antibodies in liu of a vaccine mandate, you may already be protected.

3. Release us from these crazy masks

4. If you are afraid or vulnerable at this point, vaccinate, stay inside, order in, have home delivery until herd immunity is acheived….and oh, stock up on those Pfizer amd Merk pills $$$!

 

I was a “believer” in the fear, but now w the mild Omicron have turned into a common sense “lets get over it already” for the healthy. 

Cheers!

Big money at work here…?

[MadMac]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Yet, I see fools alone in their cars wearing masks. I even saw a guy walking round the park wearing a mask, with no one in hearing distance of him, stupid. 

Time to change your air filter. Yes your cars has these, way better than surgical masks ????

[Henk Langeweg]

Oh my Cron!!

[Neeranam]

Just now, PumpkinEater said:

It is been shown that Omicron is a milder flu like illness.

Not according to my mum, who is terrified of this new, deadly strain, as told to her by the experts on British telly. 

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, MadMac said:

Time to change your air filter. Yes your cars has these, way better than surgical masks ????

Nothing wrong with my air filter. 

[MadMac]

Just saying ????

[ThailandRyan]

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Yet, I see fools alone in their cars wearing masks. I even saw a guy walking round the park wearing a mask, with no one in hearing distance of him, stupid. 

Issue is when we go out we try to social distance but it never works out when folks decide they want to be in that empty space. Much like folks in restaurants sitting as close to each other packed into a booth 6 instead of 3.

[cdemundo]

50 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

If the projection of 30,000 cases of Omicron per Day proved to be correct, and they actually happened, I would not be the least bit surprised.

Every Day I see many people, both Thai, and Farang not wearing Masks correctly or not wearing them at all.

Just yesterday, my Daughter who is 18, asked me " why do Americans think that its OK not to wear a mask ? "

Now, I am not saying that its specifically people from the USA that are rogue, but there an awful lot of Farangs now that seem to think they have shucked off any responsibility towards other Folk the moment they planted their size 10,s on Thai soil.

Thailand is a home now for many of us, we are not 2 week Millionaires, so if you are one of the rogue people, have some respect for all others that live here on a permanent basis, and have to pick up your mess after you have gone home.

 

Big differences in mask wearing in place to place in America.

I live in Los Angeles and here there is high compliance to mask wearing, at least where I live, shop, and work.  All the shops and restaurants have signs on the door saying masks required. I have been getting everything to go so I don't know what people do when eating in.

In November, I visited my daughter in Phoenix and compliance with mask wearing was much lower. Certainly less than 50%, just a guess but I would say 30%.

We went out to a restaurant on a Tuesday night and it seemed like nobody was wearing a mask, and it was busy as heck. 

The US does have a lot of mask opponents, check the Reddit Herman Cain Awards to see what they are all about.

 

Edited December 28, 2021 by cdemundo
edit to make sense grammatically

[MadMac]

People wear those masks for years in TH. Not that they help anything. They should hunt the arsonists instead. But it is the same every year. Can't be fixed.

Edited December 28, 2021 by MadMac

[Skeptic7]

19 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

It will probably be at the highest level and more.

Not many I see are doing anything bars, clubs, restaurants open no mask or distance a free for all for everyone hey hey hey lets party!.

Hear, hear... let's party!  

[Adywhu]

52 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Still double masking myself with a KN95 and a Cloth KN95 over the paper one on our trips out. Gotta love the looks I get from the unmasked foreigners.  The look of "This guy is afraid of the world". Nope, sorry but being safe and protecting oneself while enjoying life is not an issue for me.      

Pretty sure masks are more likely to protect other people from your germs rather than vice versa, I always wear a mask at my workplace and I still got covid (Delta 3 weeks ago, horrific,  still suffering) from a work colleague despite the mask, no one vould believe it as I was one of only 2 or 3 out of a hundred employees who continued to wear one , 18 at my work got it, so 70 odd who didn't wear masks avoided it!

[khunPer]

No reason to panic, khun Anutin says that Thailand is ready to cope with it, Omicron is not worse than other Covid-variants.

[Panadadad]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Not according to my mum, who is terrified of this new, deadly strain, as told to her by the experts on British telly. 

Not only her but the majority of the world should watch I love Lucy reruns instead of the so called news

[roquefort]

Level 3 Alert!!

 

Always brings to mind the big white balloon chasing Patrick McGoohan across the beach in The Prisoner.

 

Hmm, now you come to mention it............

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, MadMac said:

People wear those masks for years in TH. Not that they help anything.

They do help insecure people; they can now hold their heads up high in society, with no fear of being recognized. 

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Adywhu said:

Pretty sure masks are more likely to protect other people from your germs rather than vice versa, I always wear a mask at my workplace and I still got covid (Delta 3 weeks ago, horrific,  still suffering) from a work colleague despite the mask, no one vould believe it as I was one of only 2 or 3 out of a hundred employees who continued to wear one , 18 at my work got it, so 70 odd who didn't wear masks avoided it!

Opinions vary greatly amongst how and where one picks up the virus.,,,,,so many different ways even wearing a mask.  Yet you and others keep spouting the rhetoric as "The mask protects others from you, yet it works the other way around as well, unless you never breathe in.......

[ThailandRyan]

19 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

They do help insecure people; they can now hold their heads up high in society, with no fear of being recognized. 

Dude give it a rest.  PM 2.5, dust etc..., working in an environment such as a hospital ward, masks are worn daily by many.  I will just keep on disagreeing with your rhetoric. Anti Maskers are as bad as Anti Vaxxers for the most part, just like those that do not wear a helmet or a safety belt in the car....

[Airalee]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Along with Public Health Permanent Secretary Dr. Kiattibhoom Vongrachit, there is an awful lot of panic mongering going on within this thread. So far, the worldwide deaths have been a pinhead from Omicron. One would think this is Spanish Flu or Bubonic plague, when reading some of these replies. It is not. Not even close to Delta in terms of serious cases. 

The goalposts have been moved from deaths to hospitalizations (which are also low).  If the hospitalization fear mongering doesn’t work, then it will be shifted to “long Omicron”.  If that doesn’t pan out, they’ll come up with something, rest assured.

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, Airalee said:

The goalposts have been moved from deaths to hospitalizations (which are also low).  If the hospitalization fear mongering doesn’t work, then it will be shifted to “long Omicron”.  If that doesn’t pan out, they’ll come up with something, rest assured.

how about the new acronym for WHO the "World Has Omicron"

[Airalee]

25 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

They do help insecure people; they can now hold their heads up high in society, with no fear of being recognized. 

I always thought that the masks (usually seen on women from time to time in the past) were to hide their faces until the nose job bruising healed.