Thailand Expects Endemic COVID-19

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK, Jan 27 (TNA) – The National Communicable Disease Committee agrees to redefine COVID-19 as an endemic disease when situations meet criteria.

 

The committee’s meeting chaired by Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul today considered criteria for the COVID-19 status as an endemic disease. They include the new caseloads that do not exceed 10,000 a day, the fatality rate of less than 0.1%, less than 10% of COVID-19 cases being admitted to hospitals, enough immunity among people and more than 80% of vulnerable people receiving at least two COVID-19 vaccine doses.

 

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Criteria approved for declaration of COVID-19 as an endemic disease in Thailand

 

Photo: The US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)

 

Thailand’s National Communicable Disease Committee has agreed on the conditions which must be met for COVID-19 to be categorised as endemic disease in Thailand, said Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said Thursday.

 

To meet the criteria, new COVID-19 infections must not exceed 10,000 a day, the mortality rate must be less than 0.1% of the infection rate, the hospitalisation must less than 10% of the infection rate and more than 80% those at high risk of developing serious symptoms must have received at least two doses of vaccine and the general population must have developed sufficient immunity.

 

If such conditions are met at an appropriate time, he said the Public Health Ministry will update the public.

 

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-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-01-28

 

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[smedly]

and when the WHO says it is

[Danderman123]

Unless some new variant emerges.

 

Meanwhile, in many other countries, the infections have peaked, but remain at a very high level, and daily death counts are rising. 

Edited January 27, 2022 by Danderman123

[RichardL]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Unless some new variant emerges.

 

Meanwhile, in many other countries, the infections have peaked, but remain at a very high level, and daily death counts are rising. 

Omicron seems to spread very rapidly, but spreads more rapidly in major cities, so what appears to be happening is cities are peaking and falling, but the spread to other areas is slower.

 

There's also been a higher incidence of people in hospital 'with' covid, rather than because of it, and the same would be true of deaths.

 

As the virus weakens, as these things tend to do, there has to come a point where Thailand, and the world in general, realises it needs to treat it in the way it does with other viruses with similar mortality rates. Once a handful of major countries take that step, the rest will follow.

[charmonman]

They could meet the less than %10 hospitalization condition almost immediately but stopping the policy of sending asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic cases to hospital.

[globalspark]

Policies on run same as Australia hence no confidence in anybody in Government positions. Probably would be easy for these clowns to keep their mouths shut and make statements when they have all the facts.

Most cases in Australia seem to be   mild like flues and double vaccinated are still catching the virus. Makes we wonder  is the virus fading out or is the vaccination working?

 I am double vaccinated  only because I want to travel  and knew that would be impossible without the vaccine.I am seeing people with double vaccine plus a booster  still catching the virus.

 The fact of the matter it does not matter if  the fool is from Thailand or Timbucktoo they have no idea what to do.

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The National Communicable Disease Committee agrees to redefine COVID-19 as an endemic disease when situations meet criteria.

Goalposts on wheels again?

[jacko45k]

17 minutes ago, globalspark said:

Most cases in Australia seem to be   mild like flues and double vaccinated are still catching the virus. Makes we wonder  is the virus fading out or is the vaccination working?

As has been stated over and over.....

Vaccinations do not prevent infection, they reduce serious infection requiring hospitalization. Also the vaccinations were designed at the times of Alpha and Beta, their efficacy wanes in time, and  Omicron largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses. 

Omicron has these less severe milder symptoms. 

[riverhigh]

So what does this mean in layman's terms when covid gets reclassified as an endemic? Does this mean we get back to normal life? Does this mean less nighlife restrictions? Does this mean less travel requirements? I think this article would be more informative if they explained what happens to our lives when Covid gets reclassifies as endemic. Very frustrating. 

Edited January 28, 2022 by riverhigh

[stephenterry]

25 minutes ago, riverhigh said:

So what does this mean in layman's terms when covid gets reclassified as an endemic? Does this mean we get back to normal life? Does this mean less nighlife restrictions? Does this mean less travel requirements? I think this article would be more informative if they explained what happens to our lives when Covid gets reclassifies as endemic. Very frustrating. 

In principle, yes it means you get back to pre-Covid life, with the understanding that you could still catch the Omicron version of the virus like you could do with flu virus.

 

In time, if catching more than once, it just becomes lesser and less problematic, but you could still take a booster jab to lessen the effects just like flu jabs.

 

As for what the government would do is to gradually reduce restrictions, as their main aim is to reinstate their money making tourist industry - and an endemic status could be blamed elsewhere if it all goes belly up, as is the norm.    

[rabang]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Unless some new variant emerges.

 

Meanwhile, in many other countries, the infections have peaked, but remain at a very high level, and daily death counts are rising. 

Death counts are rising because the virus is so widespread and there are many people in hospitals dying from other causes but having tested positive they can be recorded as covid deaths.

[paulikens]

Just now, smedly said:

and when the WHO says it is

@smedly and when China says it is

[Siameaze]

Can't meet accepted PM2.5 limits? Raise them!

Sorry, but Covid will decide when it's done being a pandemic, not the Ministry by self-serving  redefinitions

[Clarkey611]

As said by the General in charge and a nut in charge from the Construction Industry. The mind boggles!

[johnnybangkok]

31 minutes ago, rabang said:

Death counts are rising because the virus is so widespread and there are many people in hospitals dying from other causes but having tested positive they can be recorded as covid deaths.

Absolute nonsense.

If Covid cuases the death or hastens a persons demise then it is recorded as a Covid death but for example if someone dies of a gunshot would but also had Covid then they are recorded as death by gunshot. This is well documented so please read up on this before you post such nonsense.

 

NB:- Commorbitities are common in Covid deaths BUT Covid still has to have hastened the death BEFORE it's recorded as a Covid death.

[Stargeezr]

Well if the government does call the COVID pandemic an Endemic, will they then make it

easier for entering Thailand? Will this great governments also get a new promo for Thailand

as it is no longer that amazing. Will TAT come out with some new fantastic tourist forecast

spouting out just how many millions will be expected in 2022 and 2023? I will not be coming to Thailand

with the present rules and restrictions, especially if the government keeps the alcohol restrictions.

When I am on a holiday I like to have my drink, and places like Mexico and central America countries have

already got Thailand beat completely. Just saying.

 

[tonray]

The only thing endemic is the amount of useless insurance being pushed on everyone

[NorthernRyland]

2 hours ago, RichardL said:

There's also been a higher incidence of people in hospital 'with' covid, rather than because of it, and the same would be true of deaths.

 

That was always the case but media did not report it as such so you didn't know unless you actually read the official sources yourself. Except more countries to start revising their official death numbers and releasing them to the public now that the panic seems to be residing.

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

As has been stated over and over.....

Vaccinations do not prevent infection, they reduce serious infection requiring hospitalization.

Yeah now you're saying that after it was proven to the case.

 

At least in the US our president said basically "if you take these vaccines you won't get covid". The fact checking shills have all done their damage control but at the time people actually believe it and got vaccinated for this reason.

[raccos21]

I remember when they said that last year during the delta variant, but what happened when Omicron showed up?
And what's next? Megatron variant?

What I can see is that after 2 years everyone is starting to ignore the virus and is living with it by going on with their normal daily routine.

Also, many are starting to ignore what the experts on media are saying because they are tired that things don’t really go well according to what the experts had been saying.

I was wondering for how long this will continue because many countries are struggling with economic crises and are becoming bankrupt.
 

[Canadian Snowbird]

If calling it endemic means getting rid of the extra insurance, the pre- and post travel covid tests, and the ever changing quarantine requirements, then maybe the tourists will return. Too late for this winter however. 

[NorthernRyland]

17 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

If Covid cuases the death or hastens a persons demise then it is recorded as a Covid death but for example if someone dies of a gunshot would but also had Covid then they are recorded as death by gunshot.

This all depends on the hospital and you're lying if you claim to know every hospital policy.

 

Just recently Fauci in the US said that hospitals were counting "COVID hospitalizations" as hospital admissions with a positive test detected upon entry.

 

CDC has always from the start counted COVID deaths as a death with COVID being written on the death certificate. You could die of cancer and if you had COVID at time of death CDC records that in their stats.

[NorthernRyland]

5 minutes ago, raccos21 said:

What I can see is that after 2 years everyone is starting to ignore the virus and is living with it by going on with their normal daily routine.

 

How do people keep this fear up? I still to this day don't know anyone who got COVID (in the US or Thailand) and was anything more than just sick for week.

 

As far I can prove with my own experience COVID was literally just the flu. If the government came out tomorrow and said "oops all the stats were made up, we lied" I wouldn't have ANY of my own data or experience to suggest otherwise.

[Bkktodd]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

As has been stated over and over.....

Vaccinations do not prevent infection, they reduce serious infection requiring hospitalization. Also the vaccinations were designed at the times of Alpha and Beta, their efficacy wanes in time, and  Omicron largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses. 

Omicron has these less severe milder symptoms. 

Hint.  BOOSTERS

[Tonypandy]

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Absolute nonsense.

If Covid cuases the death or hastens a persons demise then it is recorded as a Covid death but for example if someone dies of a gunshot would but also had Covid then they are recorded as death by gunshot. This is well documented so please read up on this before you post such nonsense.

 

NB:- Commorbitities are common in Covid deaths BUT Covid still has to have hastened the death BEFORE it's recorded as a Covid death.

There is dieing from covid and with Covid. You can check UK data on this to see the difference in the figures 

[johnarth]

3 hours ago, RichardL said:

Omicron seems to spread very rapidly, but spreads more rapidly in major cities, so what appears to be happening is cities are peaking and falling, but the spread to other areas is slower.

 

There's also been a higher incidence of people in hospital 'with' covid, rather than because of it, and the same would be true of deaths.

 

As the virus weakens, as these things tend to do, there has to come a point where Thailand, and the world in general, realises it needs to treat it in the way it does with other viruses with similar mortality rates. Once a handful of major countries take that step, the rest will follow.

should have happened from day one

[superal]

57 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

Well if the government does call the COVID pandemic an Endemic, will they then make it

easier for entering Thailand? Will this great governments also get a new promo for Thailand

as it is no longer that amazing. Will TAT come out with some new fantastic tourist forecast

spouting out just how many millions will be expected in 2022 and 2023? I will not be coming to Thailand

with the present rules and restrictions, especially if the government keeps the alcohol restrictions.

When I am on a holiday I like to have my drink, and places like Mexico and central America countries have

already got Thailand beat completely. Just saying.

 

You say that when you are on holiday you like to have a drink and I reckon the majority of folks are the same but right now with Thailand's  yo--yo alcohol restrictions plus the religious days and of course election days alcohol bans , you have to plan your Thailand holiday using a Thai calendar that shows the no alcohol days and be aware of current covid draconian restrictions . 

Once I arrived in Bangkok after a long haul flight  , thought I will go out for a few beers , only to find that alcohol ban for 2 days . Small towns not so much of a problem but big cities have many police . I will never understand why it is that non voting falangs are not allowed a drink on election days , come to that why not Thai people also ?

[Guderian]

They forgot to mention the new requirement for everyone to take an ATK test before they do anything whatsoever. Wanna buy a bag of ice in a 7-eleven? Show us your ATK test result within the last 72 hours. Wanna use a public toilet? Where's the ATK test result? Wanna fill your car up with fuel - well, you get the picture of the new controlled-Covid paradise that we shall inhabit henceforth.

[Road Warrior]

world wide no one knows the answer !!!