Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Chris.B]

1 hour ago, tgw said:

the Ruzzians are practically at the lines they rushed to in the first days of the invasion, except around Izyum.

they were helped by traitors, most notably in Kherson.

the great concentration of forces at Izyum / Rubinzne is well known. There are bloody battles there right now. The daily bodycount published by the Ukrainian defense ministry has jumped, it was cruising around 100-150 ten days ago, now we see 350 - 400 every day. That's one BTG a day.

These traitors (spys), are they....

 

1) Russians living in Ukraine?

2) Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens?

3) Non-Russian Ukrainian citizen?

 

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by Chris.B

[Meat Pie 47]

 

[coolcarer]

22 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

They haven't joined yet!

The decision to join was made today, the threats from Russia were announced again today directed at Finland. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, coolcarer said:

The decision to join was made today, the threats from Russia were announced again today directed at Finland. 

Sweden next, chop chop.

Putin's decision to invade Ukraine backfires wildly. 

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This hasn't been confirmed yet by Ukraine

 

Ukraine Troops Reach Ternova, Town on Russia Border, as Invasion Reversed

The Ukrainian counteroffensive appears to have pushed Russian troops past the Ukrainian village of Ternova and back to the Russian border, according to unverified reports in both Forbes and the Daily Mail.

If confirmed, a retreat of the Russian troops from the area around Kharkiv would be a significant success for Ukraine, freeing up troops to fight in the south of the country and giving respite to the devastated city of Kharkiv. On the other hand, a Russian retreat would be a terrible humiliation for Moscow and yet another setback in the invasion of Ukraine, merely weeks after troops retreated from the areas surrounding Kyiv in early April under the Kremlin's order.

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-troops-reach-russia-border-invasion-reversed-1705900

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4 hours ago, placeholder said:

This hasn't been confirmed yet by Ukraine

 

Ukraine Troops Reach Ternova, Town on Russia Border, as Invasion Reversed

The Ukrainian counteroffensive appears to have pushed Russian troops past the Ukrainian village of Ternova and back to the Russian border, according to unverified reports in both Forbes and the Daily Mail.

If confirmed, a retreat of the Russian troops from the area around Kharkiv would be a significant success for Ukraine, freeing up troops to fight in the south of the country and giving respite to the devastated city of Kharkiv. On the other hand, a Russian retreat would be a terrible humiliation for Moscow and yet another setback in the invasion of Ukraine, merely weeks after troops retreated from the areas surrounding Kyiv in early April under the Kremlin's order.

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-troops-reach-russia-border-invasion-reversed-1705900

Here's a link to a more informative article from forbes.com

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/05/10/ukrainian-troops-appear-to-have-fought-all-the-way-to-the-russian-border/?sh=56f590fb4409

[tgw]

from Kyivindependent.com :

Russia may cut off gas supply to Finland on May 13.

Key Finnish politicians have been warned that Russia may cut off the gas supply to Finland on May 13 due to the country’s potential accession to NATO, Finland’s media outlet Iltalehti reports citing anonymous sources.

 

 

Do the Gazprom contracts contain clauses against Finland asking to join NATO ?

Wouldn't stopping the gas supply be a breach of contract ?

 

[LosLobo]

24 minutes ago, tgw said:

from Kyivindependent.com :

Russia may cut off gas supply to Finland on May 13.

Key Finnish politicians have been warned that Russia may cut off the gas supply to Finland on May 13 due to the country’s potential accession to NATO, Finland’s media outlet Iltalehti reports citing anonymous sources.

 

 

Do the Gazprom contracts contain clauses against Finland asking to join NATO ?

Wouldn't stopping the gas supply be a breach of contract ?

 

He broke the Budapest Agreement on a whim. An agreement where Russia agreed to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and national borders in return for Kyiv agreeing to give up its nuclear arsenal. So a minor contract would be of no consequence.

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by LosLobo

[Chris.B]

3 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

What a joke army ????

Russian SIMs roaming in Ukraine. Gives you a good idea of the concentration of their forces 

What is the source of this map please?

 

[Chris.B]

1 hour ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

 

Reported here 7 hours ago...

 

 

 

[LosLobo]

17 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

What is the source of this map please?

 

 

The original looked like Twitter. I found this one earlier.

Edited May 12, 2022 by LosLobo

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Solution is an extraction strategy attack and rescue them.

What the point of supplying weapons if you do nowt.

The truth of getting weapons from the west is BS.

I'm glad that they are not under your comand.

Extract the defenders (possibly losing more people in the high risk extraction than are saved) and surrender Mariupol to Russia, allowing it to use the Russian forces currently tied up in the city to fight elsewhere. 

 

I assume this option has already been considered and rejected.

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, farmerjo said:

You just have to look at the battlefront.

Lot of red,not much blue.

But i could be wrong as it never gets reported on here.

 

The reports I've read state that Russia attempted a quick seizure of Kyiv and failed.  Russia then attempted to encircle Kyiv and failed.  Then Russia decided to focus on capturing as much of the east and south of Ukraine as possible but is making slow to non-existent progress.

 

How are these reports in error?  What sources of information do you recommend?

 

Oh, and let's not forget that Putin's strategic goal of rolling back NATO expansion has failed spectacularly.

[coolcarer]

3 hours ago, Chris.B said:

Reported here 7 hours ago...

 

 

 

Your point being? 2 or 3 versions of the same story can often compliment each other and it is often the case that updates and different perspectives add another dimension. That’s not to say the Daily Mail does not have its occasional uses but it’s not a race to post on here is it?

[Bkk Brian]

Reports of another Russian navy ship being hit.

 

Official: Another Russian ship hit by Ukrainian navy near Zmiinyi Island. As a result of the attack, Vsevolod Bobrov, one of the newest ships of the Russian Navy, caught fire, according to Serhiy Bratchuk, a spokesman for the Odesa regional military administration.

 

Russian logistics ship ‘on fire in Black Sea after Ukrainian strike’

‘Vsevolod Bobrov logistics ship, one of the newest in the Russian fleet, set on fire,’ says regional official

 

 

[LosLobo]

5 hours ago, coolcarer said:

Your point being? 2 or 3 versions of the same story can often compliment each other and it is often the case that updates and different perspectives add another dimension. That’s not to say the Daily Mail does not have its occasional uses but it’s not a race to post on here is it?

Actually I preferred the latter version. It really did add another dimension, namely a picture of the talented Sanna Marin! Obviously not just a pretty face!????

 

Sanna Marin - Wikipedia

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by LosLobo

[ballpoint]

It is expected that Vladimir Putin will be voted 'employee of the century' at next month's NATO summit in Madrid, for his sterling recruitment work.

 

(YLE is Finland's national public service media company).

[RJRS1301]

12 hours ago, tgw said:

from Kyivindependent.com :

Russia may cut off gas supply to Finland on May 13.

Key Finnish politicians have been warned that Russia may cut off the gas supply to Finland on May 13 due to the country’s potential accession to NATO, Finland’s media outlet Iltalehti reports citing anonymous sources.

 

 

Do the Gazprom contracts contain clauses against Finland asking to join NATO ?

Wouldn't stopping the gas supply be a breach of contract ?

 

Are you implying that Putin and company understand ethics, honouring contracts, ?

He has a fairly poor reputation and running record of anything positive in resume to date.

A man whose "forces" commits alleged war crimes on such a scale, has no worries about breach of contract, and  turning gas off to another country.

 

[Mavideol]

13 hours ago, tgw said:

from Kyivindependent.com :

Russia may cut off gas supply to Finland on May 13.

Key Finnish politicians have been warned that Russia may cut off the gas supply to Finland on May 13 due to the country’s potential accession to NATO, Finland’s media outlet Iltalehti reports citing anonymous sources.

 

 

Do the Gazprom contracts contain clauses against Finland asking to join NATO ?

Wouldn't stopping the gas supply be a breach of contract ?

 

if they (Russia) do that, it means  they would be ""cutting off their nose to spite their face"" as less income will be going to their account, as for breach of contract, Vlad doesn't care about that

[ozimoron]

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The Kremlin warned about taking retaliatory “military-technical” steps after Finland’s leaders came out in favor of applying to join NATO, and Sweden could do the same within days, in a historic realignment triggered by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

 

That would represent a major change in Europe’s security landscape: Sweden has avoided military alliances for more than 200 years, while Finland adopted neutrality after its defeat by the Soviets in World War II.

Public opinion in both nations shifted dramatically in favor of NATO membership after the invasion, which stirred fears in countries along Russia’s flank that they could be next.

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-finland-a21a06ac0235bb89c9e8368e0ffca2c9

[LosLobo]

43 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The Kremlin warned about taking retaliatory “military-technical” steps after Finland’s leaders came out in favor of applying to join NATO, and Sweden could do the same within days, in a historic realignment triggered by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

 

That would represent a major change in Europe’s security landscape: Sweden has avoided military alliances for more than 200 years, while Finland adopted neutrality after its defeat by the Soviets in World War II.

Public opinion in both nations shifted dramatically in favor of NATO membership after the invasion, which stirred fears in countries along Russia’s flank that they could be next.

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-finland-a21a06ac0235bb89c9e8368e0ffca2c9

Many did not see it as Finland was really being defeated in the "Winter War".  I suggest Russia may have been viewed more as being the "loser". The war which showed a weak Russia encouraged Hitler to invade and subsequently 27 million Russians died.
 

"Hostilities ceased in March 1940 with the signing of the Moscow Peace Treaty in which Finland ceded 9% of its territory to the Soviet Union. Soviet losses were heavy, and the country's international reputation suffered."

 

Winter War - Wikipedia
 

The Winter War was followed by the Continuation War 

Continuation War - Wikipedia

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by LosLobo

[Bkk Brian]

Today's the day for this monster

 

BBC Report

First Russian soldier to stand trial for war crime today

A Russian soldier is due to stand trial today for allegedly killing an unarmed Ukrainian civilian - the first war crime case to go to court since Russia's invasion began.

Sgt Vadim Shyshimarin is accused of shooting a 62-year-old man in the head through an open car window in the north-eastern village of Chupakhivka.

He faces up to life in prison under the penalties stated in the section of the Ukrainian criminal code that addresses the laws and customs of war.

[2 is 1]

22 hours ago, Chris.B said:

Does Finland have a powerful military?

 

Finland's official policy states that a wartime military strength of 280,000 personnel constitutes a sufficient deterrent. The army consists of a highly mobile field army backed up by local defence units.

Reserve personnel 900,000

The Finnish defence forces is based on universal male conscription. All men above 18 years of age are liable to serve either 6, 9 or 12 months. Some 27,000 conscripts are trained annually. 80% of Finnish men complete their service. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces

Edited May 13, 2022 by 2 is 1

[simple1]

On 5/5/2022 at 4:18 PM, Mavideol said:

am with you but would prefer if Ukraine started to attack instead of defending.... old saying says the best defense is to attack and if Ukraine could send some missiles into Russian territory maybe Vlad would think twice, I know Ukraine send some but not enough to create doubt, more and on a regular basis so civil Russians would /may start to realize the gravity of Vlad actions and lies

IMO for Ukraine to brazenly target assets within Russian territory would be a strategic error of judgement. Can't quantify, but the impression I get is Russia has yet to deploy overwhelming military power (excluding nuclear) why this is; don't know.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

IMO for Ukraine to brazenly target assets within Russian territory would be a strategic error of judgement. Can't quantify, but the impression I get is Russia has yet to deploy overwhelming military power (excluding nuclear) why this is; don't know.

If Russia are firing missiles into Ukraine from within Russian territory or refueling tanks and trucks from fuel stores in Russian territory then they not only become legitimate targets but they are compelled to attack them in self defense.

[RJRS1301]

Putin ‘very ill with blood cancer’ claims oligarch amid Russian president’s ‘purge’ of top generals

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/putin-very-ill-with-blood-cancer-claims-oligarch-amid-russian-presidents-purge-of-top-generals/news-story/c523b5ff491d0d8db78f11909ba3d93d

 

Please

[RJRS1301]

 Terrible acoustics, however

[coolcarer]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Today's the day for this monster

 

BBC Report

First Russian soldier to stand trial for war crime today

A Russian soldier is due to stand trial today for allegedly killing an unarmed Ukrainian civilian - the first war crime case to go to court since Russia's invasion began.

Sgt Vadim Shyshimarin is accused of shooting a 62-year-old man in the head through an open car window in the north-eastern village of Chupakhivka.

He faces up to life in prison under the penalties stated in the section of the Ukrainian criminal code that addresses the laws and customs of war.

Is this barbarian going to use the same defense as Putin and his trolls? He was only there to denazify Ukraine and it belongs to Russia anyway.

 

Hopefully he’ll get an extended sentence for perjury as well as cold blooded murder

[LosLobo]

Senator Rand Paul single-handedly holds up $40bn US aid for Ukraine

_{"Democratic and Republican Senate leaders both supported package but Paul objected to scale of spending"}

 

_{Putin must be loving this!}

 

_{Senator Rand Paul single-handedly holds up $40bn US aid for Ukraine | US Senate | The Guardian}

 

 

[coolcarer]

12 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Is this barbarian going to use the same defense as Putin and his trolls? He was only there to denazify Ukraine and it belongs to Russia anyway.

 

Hopefully he’ll get an extended sentence for perjury as well as cold blooded murder

Video of the beast entering court and placed in the locked dock

https://twitter.com/mrsorokaa/status/1525053748317388801?s=21&t=kXVAm3fKi3TERjDGSV0Ugg

 

Plenty more of these cases to come soon