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Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

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impulse Star Member

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2 hours ago, heybruce said:

Care to provide links to those surveys?

I'll see if I can find them.  It's been years since I linked to them on TVF (even before AN), and my ability to search is limited using bing.cn where I'm staying.  Meantime you can get a head start searching for "Crimea Conundrum".

 

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the main story is Russia has been meddling in Ukraine for decades. Ukraine has been the recipient of billions of Euros as investment, loans, development aid and whatnot and is/was evolving into a

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long story short, less than 2% of voters support the far-right in Ukraine. in all countries there are always a small group of extremists. Ukraine doesn't have a far-right problem. But i

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10 hours ago, impulse said:

I doubt the west will conduct such surveys in the 4 oblasts, because they didn't like the answer last time.

Surveys conducted in Ukraine has nothing to do with the West, just as illegal voting has nothing to do with Russia. You cannot illegally invade then occupy a country then set up illegally rigged elections, you do understand that don't you?

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

I'll see if I can find them.  It's been years since I linked to them on TVF (even before AN), and my ability to search is limited using bing.cn where I'm staying.  Meantime you can get a head start searching for "Crimea Conundrum".

 

You know very well it doesn’t work that way, right? When YOU make a claim, YOU have to provide a link to support that claim. You can’t just say ‘if you don’t believe me, go google it yourself’. Hmm, if only this forum had a rule regarding having to provide links to support your claim. Oh, wait a minute….

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2 hours ago, impulse said:

I'll see if I can find them.  It's been years since I linked to them on TVF (even before AN), and my ability to search is limited using bing.cn where I'm staying.  Meantime you can get a head start searching for "Crimea Conundrum".

 

I checked, I couldn't find anything that would give a staged vote in occupied territory any credibility.

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and the good news keep coming, well done Ukraine, keep it up

Ukraine-Russia war – live: Putin suffers loss of 261 troops in 24 hours as Kyiv offensive gains momentum

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-putin-041229810.html

Not enough Bears: Russia’s Black Sea Fleet is pulling out of Crimea

https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-enough-bears-russia-black-141826592.html

 

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20 hours ago, Mavideol said:

inch by inch/centimeter by centimeter Ukraine is pushing them away.... let's see if the sad emoji will pop up 555

Ukraine-Russia war – live: Kyiv inches forward in counteroffensive as cluster munitions ‘hit Russian village’

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-putin-041229810.html

 

the alleged cluster munitions attack on the "Russian village" has not been confirmed, but is used extensively in Ruzzian propaganda.

 

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Oct 3 (Reuters) - Ukraine fired cluster munitions at a Russian village near the Ukrainian border on Tuesday, damaging several houses, the governor of Russia's Bryansk region said.

According to preliminary information, there were no casualties in the shelling of the village of Klimovo, Governor Alexander Bogomaz said on the Telegram messaging app.

Reuters was not able to independently verify the governor's statement, which he made without providing visual evidence. There was no immediate comment from Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-shells-russian-village-with-cluster-munitions-russian-official-2023-10-03/

 

 

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Ukraine accused of firing cluster bombs at Russian village

The governor of Russia's Bryansk region has alleged Ukraine used cluster munitions on a Russian village near the Ukrainian border, hitting several houses. 

No casualties were reported in Klimovo, wrote Governor Alexander Bogomaz on Telegram. 

Kyiv has not commented on this accusation. 

Euronews cannot independently verify the Russian official's claim, which were made without photo or video evidence. 

Washington controversially supplied Kyiv with cluster bombs in July -  which was blasted as a "terrible mistake" by politicians and rights groups. 

Cluster munitions are banned under an international treaty, signed by more than 120 countries. 

Like a shotgun, they splatter explosive submunitions over an area as big as several football fields. These can then lie dormant like landmines, killing and maiming civilians years after a conflict has finished.  

 

Russia has been documented using cluster bombs extensively in Ukraine. 

https://www.euronews.com/2023/10/03/ukraine-kyiv-fires-cluster-bombs-at-russian-village-claim-devastating-loss-of-us-aid-eu-pl

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8 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

more from the front lines as missiles and drones flying towards the Orcs

Ukraine targets Crimea coast with Neptune missiles and fires 31 drones at border regions

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-targets-crimea-coast-neptune-053821958.html

 

Just to add to that:

 

"Reportedly, in a drone attack on Belgorod region of Russia, an S-400 Russian Triumf air defense system was destroyed. It costs about $1.2 billion. Russian Telegram channels reported that about 20 explosions were heard in the area where the system was located. There was a power outage in settlements nearby. This is the second Russian Triumf complex destroyed in the past month. The first one was hit in Yevpatoria on September 14. Russians might need to think of a new name for this complex (Triumf means Triumph) from now on."

 

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On 10/3/2023 at 7:10 AM, impulse said:

The 4 oblasts and Crimea have always been largely Russky ethnically.  2 separate western surveys were conducted in Crimea after the annexation, where the vast majority of residents indicated they want to stay with Russia. 

 

I doubt the west will conduct such surveys in the 4 oblasts, because they didn't like the answer last time.

 

this sounds like out of a Chinese text book

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On 10/3/2023 at 8:40 AM, heybruce said:

Care to provide links to those surveys?

he can't, there is not back up data/links for this type of  Chinese/Russian propaganda 

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Are we sleepwalking into WWIII?

For the first time in the history of war an nuclear armed nation was invaded today, namely Israel ????????. 

Iran is probably already playing a part in this attack and what will follow. If Saudi ???????? gets involved, we will have $100 oil by the end of next week.

The Ukraine ???????? war is going on for the 2nd year and China ???????? is not spending $230 billion on the military just for show while their domestic economy is falling apart.

 

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the black see fleet keeps getting pounded

 

Key Points

  • Russia’s ‘exhausted’ troops ‘suffer significant losses in key town Avdiivka’

  • Ukraine hit two Russian vessels, says intelligence source

  • French police probe ‘poisoning’ of TV journalist who denounced war

  • Ukraine says it prevented Russian saboteurs crossing border

  • Death toll from Hroza missile strike rises to 59, Ukraine says

Ukraine hit two Russian vessels, says intelligence source

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-ioc-042452594.html

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start the week with good news, Putin suffers serious losses 555

Ukraine-Russia war – live: Putin suffers serious losses in largest offensive in months

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-two-074813553.html

 

Ukrainian forces release video of downed Russian Mi-8 helicopter: ‘It burns beautifully’

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-forces-release-video-downed-082337446.html

 

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Governor spoke up about war, it's dangerous and risky for her as Putin usually poisoned anyone speaking against him.... news next week, Russian governor Natalya Komarova who spoke about the Ukraine war jumped from the 7th floor found dead

Russian governor reported to police for speaking out over Putin’s ‘unnecessary’ war against Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russian-governor-reported-police-speaking-050327756.html

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things are moving from the Ukraine side as the Orcs are getting blown away

'Operation Dragonfly': Ukraine ‘destroys nine Russian helicopters in successful airstrike’

https://au.yahoo.com/news/operation-dragonfly-ukraine-destroys-nine-151047513.html

 

Ukraine’s new American missiles may have devastated the Russian airforce

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-american-missiles-may-devastated-133556823.html

 

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On 10/18/2023 at 4:50 PM, Mavideol said:

things are moving from the Ukraine side as the Orcs are getting blown away

'Operation Dragonfly': Ukraine ‘destroys nine Russian helicopters in successful airstrike’

https://au.yahoo.com/news/operation-dragonfly-ukraine-destroys-nine-151047513.html

 

Ukraine’s new American missiles may have devastated the Russian airforce

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-american-missiles-may-devastated-133556823.html

 

 

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Ukrainian army has crossed the Dnipro river, they are on the eastern side, thus Russians have to backup

 

Ukraine-Russia war - live: Kyiv makes ‘breakthrough’ on Dnipro river as Moscow warns US of ‘grave’ mistake

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-moscow-051538647.html

 

Missile hits Russia's Black Sea Fleet weapon stockpiles

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/missile-hits-russias-black-sea-080300201.html

 

 
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and the good news keep coming, Russia so called "super guns" are good for firecrackers 555
 

Russian TOS-1A Thermobaric Rocket Launcher Absolutely Detonates When Hit By Drone

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-tos-1a-thermobaric-rocket-205056972.html

 

Ukraine's forces destroy two Russian heavy MLRS – General Staff report

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraines-forces-destroy-two-russian-170201803.html

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