Russian invasion creates a multitude of problems for tourism

[wombat]

1 hour ago, Isaan sailor said:

It’s all just a prelude to what will happen here when Xi starts his invasions.

As all the service industries are owned by proxy by China and can cripple Taiwan in 48 hours without the need of invasion.

China has already taken HK.

Which country do you mean?

[Stargeezr]

I guess the Russian tourists should have exchanged their rubles for the US dollar, or Thai baht

the moment they arrived to Thailand.  The one option they have now is to find a way back to their country via China, 

or which other country that still has flights back to Russia.  The Russian ruble will not be getting any better status for a long while.

   I do feel sorry for the ordinary Russians who have found themselves still outside of their country, because if they have not

flights from Russia that are still going to Thailand, then they are in a pickle. I do not think that Thailand will be the only country whos tourism is

affected by the higher fuel and other rising costs.

 

[rupert the bear]

25 minutes ago, wombat said:

 

How is that going to work if credit cards don't work?

a very good point sir for every action theres an equal and opposite reaction

[sammieuk1]

Don't worry Russians trapped here TAT will generously look after you but wait you cant pay so your stuffed ????

[Mywayboy]

6 hours ago, Hayduke said:

 

No problem. The statistical wizards at TAT will crunch some numbers and announce the imminent arrival of 10 million Indian billionaires and 1.5 million Saudi trillionaires. It’s all good.

 

 

They'reDreamin Son

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Don't worry Russians trapped here TAT will generously look after you but wait you cant pay so your stuffed ????

Pity the 300 baht donation has yet to come into play!

[morrobay]

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1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

I'm not a great mathematician but how on earth do you get over 100% cancelation rate ?

Maybe they are getting this from cancellation rate before. Suppose before 2 out of ten canceled. But now 8 out of 10 cancel. So I think you could call that 400 % cancellation rate

[Caldera]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

From a humanitarian point of view, the Thai government needs to help them immediately with free accommodation and food.

Good luck with that. As this article once again exemplifies, the only suffering that matters around here is that of Thai businesses.

[LivingNThailand]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Very telling that Thailand does not see the events in Ukraine as a humanitarian disaster, but as a tourism disaster !

It is disgusting.  The government should be ashamed of themselves.  They should impose sanctions too.

[sammieuk1]

Just in time TAT's calculator has been brought back from the PM's office????

 

[BE88]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

My guess would be he wont - not for a very long while - much longer than I would have thought before. Yes, Putin may gain Ukraine, but economically Russia is finished for the next 20-30 years or so (assuming nobody close to warmongering Putin does not take him out). Xi I think is watching the fallout, not just for now but over the coming years also. 

All European countries are in disaster not just Russia.

[arithai12]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I'm not a great mathematician but how on earth do you get over 100% cancelation rate ?

It baffled me too. I think it's the way the article puts it "every booking that was made for travel into Russia was outweighed by six cancellations of pre-existing bookings".

So, taking Germany: one new booking to Russia, eight cancellations, 700% cancellation rate. Or something like that.

 

Either way, the message is: a disaster. I just saw the list of flights operating between Thailand and Russia, most are cancelled.

 

[BE88]

1 hour ago, Isaan sailor said:

It’s all just a prelude to what will happen here when Xi starts his invasions.

Xi will not make any invasion, he simply waits for Russia to do the work of self-destructing with the whole West then he will say to the Taiwanese, welcome dear brothers, return to your great homeland that will rule the world now.

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

2 hours ago, 10baht said:

Help the Ukrainians - book a room om AirBNB but don't go of course. That's sending really needed money to the Ukrainian people.

 

A benevolent suggestion, although I’m not really sure how it would work practically. For anyone really wanting to help, it would be better to make a donation to the Ukrainian Red Cross, who are in desperate need of medical and humanitarian supplies to help the thousands of Ukrainians maimed and hospitalised, and the millions of refugees fleeing the country. The Ukrainians in Thailand will get by.

 

https://donate.redcrossredcrescent.org/ua/donate/~my-donation?_cv=1

[cocoonclub]

1 hour ago, rupert the bear said:

i have read some of the comments and theyve bewildered me.these people are on holidays or staying here just like  most other readers,they are the same as us.they do not make foreign policy or move chequers on the map,western banks have screwed them and said sanctions were supposed to be directed at the top not the ordinary person in the street

No, you’re wrong with that assumption. 
 

 

1 hour ago, rupert the bear said:

 

and as for the rest of this verbal garbage what of blair and bush and their weapons of mass destruction?napalmed kids in the countries next door,libya and syria beirut and kabul where USA stole half of a starving populations money and left with a targeted rocket attack that killed a bus full of children.democracy ?what was manning and assanges mistake?telling the truth and exposing USA war crimes-look what happened to them.as our lord said he who has not sinned may cast the 1st stone.of course theres iraq and that illegal war so what of that and the responsibility of all you westerners from the countries that played a part in that then?

You’re in the wrong topic. Putin invaded Ukraine. None of the persons or countries you mentioned have anything to do with that. 

 

1 hour ago, rupert the bear said:

your all guilty just like these people who have great problems not of their own making,shame on you,fools and racists,obviously basic concepts of humanity and understanding are far from your grasp.uncle sams old logic of  'surround everyone with everything weve got and let em have it' is also your mantra of the day

Only Putin and his cronies are guilty. 

[WEBBYB808]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

My guess would be he wont - not for a very long while - much longer than I would have thought before. Yes, Putin may gain Ukraine, but economically Russia is finished for the next 20-30 years or so (assuming nobody close to warmongering Putin does not take him out). Xi I think is watching the fallout, not just for now but over the coming years also. 

Does this not seem all to familiar to 1938 Munich?  Sudatenland!  Hitler wanted all the former German territories! The German people bought into a better German future, and said almost the same thing to everyone that the average Russian says in the media today, "Sorry Ukrainians!"  Russia just wants it's bloc back, they will surrely sign a Document  similar  to what Mussolini,  Chamberlain, and the Fuhrer signed.  Peace, but only on paper! History is repeating itself. 

[arithai12]

3 minutes ago, BE88 said:

All European countries are in disaster not just Russia.

thanks for this. Most people don't realize that sanctions, no flight zones, bans on exports and bank transfers, actually work both ways.

 

[Joules]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I'm not a great mathematician but how on earth do you get over 100% cancelation rate ?

It's quite easy.  Many who have not yet booked have cancelled.  Anything is possible in Thailand!

[jeanpierre]

39 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Pity the 300 baht donation has yet to come into play!

TAT will make an exception for Russians

[mberbae]

Exactly and Sadly so. The Russian massacre is headlined as...Tourism in trouble for Thailand.

Wow !!!

As for Xi Jinping, he now has Myanmar and will just wait for the right time to nibble away

at LOS. A high speed train here, a Seaport there....it's all in the works.

[BE88]

7 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

thanks for this. Most people don't realize that sanctions, no flight zones, bans on exports and bank transfers, actually work both ways.

 

And tens of thousands of small farms in all European countries are now at risk of bankruptcy due to non-payments and capital invested in Russia and Ukraine as well as the lack of fertilizers for agriculture and consequent lack of food for populations in Europe with several countries that shut down grain exports and could continue with a long list of problems to come.

 

[brianthainess]

 

1 hour ago, rupert the bear said:

as our lord said he who has not sinned may cast the 1st stone.

 He may be your Lord but he is not mine, ''our lord'' indeed if this mythical being of YOURS is so great then why all the suffering ?

[FinChin67]

2 hours ago, 10baht said:

Help the Ukrainians - book a room om AirBNB but don't go of course. That's sending really needed money to the Ukrainian people.

I have sent directly to Ukrainian Government account. AirBnB is also a good way to donate. Do not donate to the leeches who take 99% and maybe 1% goes to actual cause. You know the ones with posting pictures of suffering children in their ads.

If there is any Ukrainian needing help here in Thailand I am willing to pitch in a little. You can send PM on this forum.

 

Slava Ukraine!

[brianthainess]

44 minutes ago, WEBBYB808 said:

Does this not seem all to familiar to 1938 Munich?  Sudatenland!  Hitler wanted all the former German territories! The German people bought into a better German future, and said almost the same thing to everyone that the average Russian says in the media today, "Sorry Ukrainians!"  Russia just wants it's bloc back, they will surrely sign a Document  similar  to what Mussolini,  Chamberlain, and the Fuhrer signed.  Peace, but only on paper! History is repeating itself. 

Actually Chamberlin worded the agreement quite cleverly letting Hitler 'have' Czechoslovakia and NO OTHER LAND.

Meaning the UK never broke the agreement, when Hitler invaded Poland he broke the agreement. just saying.

Edited March 7, 2022 by brianthainess

[brianthainess]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Pity the 300 baht donation has yet to come into play!

   ???? Now they have an excuse to raise it say 1k to help any tourists caught up in a war.

[Wongkitlo]

China boycotted Australian wine and seafood imports so now they send them to Hong Kong and they are imported from there. I guess Russians can still fly to China and from there to Thailand. 

[Guderian]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Here in Thailand, it is unclear how many Russians and Ukrainians ... are still in the country.

Isn't this just a polite way of saying that the Thai Immigration Police database and all of their petty, tedious bureaucracy is actually a complete waste of time?

[rickthompson]

2 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

i have read some of the comments and theyve bewildered me.these people are on holidays or staying here just like  most other readers,they are the same as us.they do not make foreign policy or move chequers on the map,western banks have screwed them and said sanctions were supposed to be directed at the top not the ordinary person in the street and as for the rest of this verbal garbage what of blair and bush and their weapons of mass destruction?napalmed kids in the countries next door,libya and syria beirut and kabul where USA stole half of a starving populations money and left with a targeted rocket attack that killed a bus full of children.democracy ?what was manning and assanges mistake?telling the truth and exposing USA war crimes-look what happened to them.as our lord said he who has not sinned may cast the 1st stone.of course theres iraq and that illegal war so what of that and the responsibility of all you westerners from the countries that played a part in that then?your all guilty just like these people who have great problems not of their own making,shame on you,fools and racists,obviously basic concepts of humanity and understanding are far from your grasp.uncle sams old logic of  'surround everyone with everything weve got and let em have it' is also your mantra of the day

Exactly right! As a US citizen, I find it despicable that we have learned nothing from the xenophobic behavior we exhibited during World War 2 when we put Japanese Americans into camps because they were 'Japanese'. Targeting all Russians, most of whom likely wouldn't support Putin's policies if they were told the truth, is no different.  It is a slippery slope that we should not embark on lest we end up sliding down ourselves.

[soalbundy]

It's certainly having a negative effect on the FX the Euro is down from nigh on 38 to 35.4

[FinChin67]

8 minutes ago, Wongkitlo said:

China boycotted Australian wine and seafood imports so now they send them to Hong Kong and they are imported from there. I guess Russians can still fly to China and from there to Thailand. 

China and Hong Kong have cancelled most of the flights... due to marvellous "Covid Zero" policy (which is not working...).  If they have Shengen visa they can fly to Finland and take the train as it still runs from Helsinki to St. Petersburg but I hope it will be closed soon too. It is used now mostly for Russian fleeing their homes in Russia.

Edited March 7, 2022 by FinChin67
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