Death of a yoghurt delivery lady in Ratchaburi - pick-up parked half in the road

[webfact]

Picture: Siam Rath

 

Siam Rath reported that the Muang district police in Ratchaburi in central Thailand were called after a motorcycle with attachments delivering yoghurt hit a parked pick-up.

 

Pictures showed the pick-up was parked half on the hard shoulder and half in the road itself. 

 

Dead at the scene was a yoghurt delivery lady aged 43 who had an address in Bangkok. 

 

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The pick-up was damaged at the back and the motorcycle had become entangled with the wheel arch propelling the lady 5 meters forward.

 

She suffered death from head injuries. 

 

Police are investigating and speaking to the 25 year old pick-up driver Panuphat who parked there. 

 

It happened on the Ratchaburi to Jom Beung Road in Moo 15. 

 

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[richard_smith237]

So.. Pickup parked without any care or consideration to others, which is not unusual at all in Thailand.

Pickup driver definitely complicit due to his carelessness. 

 

Deceased lady drives into stationary vehicle, not paying attention to where she is going. 

 

As is so commonly occurrent in Thailand it takes two people behaving either recklessly or carelessly for such an easily avoidable incident to happen.

 

- Had the pickup driver parked more carefully - the Samlor would have been free to ride down the road into any other stationary object. 

- Had the Samlor driver been paying more attention she would never had hit the pickup.

 

 

The absence of care and attention on Thailands roads is abundantly obvious everywhere and is somewhat of a facet in every day life. 

[khunPer]

So the pick-up car should instead have been parked half on the narrow hard shoulder and half on the pavement..?

Anybody here that know and can explain the rules..?

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, khunPer said:

So the pick-up car should instead have been parked half on the narrow hard shoulder and half on the pavement..?

Anybody here that know and can explain the rules..?

Firstly, there is no pavement (sidewalk).

 

The pickup should not be parked where it is impeding traffic flow. 

 

It should be parked, off the road and off the shoulder (it looks like there is space to do that). 

 

 

That said: In Thailand many issues stem from poor road design and an underlying absence of enforcement that enables people to do what they want when they want without any regard for anyone else. 

 

Thus: This pickup driver and pretty much every other driver in Thailand parks there car wherever they want and if its partially sticking out in the road they don’t care because no one else (police) care’s to do anything about it... that is until an incident happens. 

 

-  Proactiveness and law-enforcement is not a thing in Thailand. Everything is purely reactive.

 

 

[sammieuk1]

Looking where your going is the missing gene here add to it a pickup and its curtains ???? Rip

[khunPer]

16 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Firstly, there is no pavement (sidewalk).

 

The pickup should not be parked where it is impeding traffic flow. 

 

It should be parked, off the road and off the shoulder (it looks like there is space to do that). 

 

 

That said: In Thailand many issues stem from poor road design and an underlying absence of enforcement that enables people to do what they want when they want without any regard for anyone else. 

 

Thus: This pickup driver and pretty much every other driver in Thailand parks there car wherever they want and if its partially sticking out in the road they don’t care because no one else (police) care’s to do anything about it... that is until an incident happens. 

 

-  Proactiveness and law-enforcement is not a thing in Thailand. Everything is purely reactive.

Thanks for your reply.

 

When looking at the road sign in front of the pick-up car there is a sidewalk.

 

I was mere asking about the actual law about parking compared to hard shoulder; and yes, various amazing parking are often seen, which is why I ask about the parking rules, when the are no "no stopping"-sign and no white/red paintings...????

[connda]

50 minutes ago, webfact said:

Pictures showed the pick-up was parked half on the hard shoulder and half in the road itself. 

That's because there isn't enough shoulder to park on.
Btw, this is SOP (standard operating procedure) here in Thailand as far as parking.  Given the picture, how did the motorcyclist not see the truck?  The only way this ends up the truck driver fault is if there is a law expressly making parking on a narrow shoulder illegal.  Considering I see it every day driving through the narrow roads in my own village?  It would be interesting to know how Thai traffic law see this case.  Doubt we'll ever find out though.

Btw: The cop parked his truck right in the middle of the lane.  So if someone hit him???  ????

Edited March 11, 2022 by connda

[worgeordie]

A white pickup , daylight , how did she not see it ! micro sleep.

RIP lady 

regards Worgeordie

[spidermike007]

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, he does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, prevention, enforcement of the law, or concern toward the prosecution of very reckless drivers.

 

Those of us with driving skill, and a strong desire for not only survival, but the avoidance of terrible injury, are constantly scanning the road, in front of us, beside us, and behind us. There are an exceptionally high number of reckless fools on these roads, and it is the only way to preserve our lives, and those of our families, and friends, who may be driving with us, and depending on us. 

When I was growing up, we took drivers education courses. They showed us horrendous films, of semi trucks plowing into cars, and literally obliterating everything in their path. They also showed us graphic images of head on collisions. 120mph impacts. Even as a young kid, it made quite an impression. It was horrific, and it was hard to get those images out of your head afterwards. But, it left a lasting impression, and when I started driving, I understood it was serious business, and that it was a very dangerous thing to do. Also, I had the benefit of my lovely Mom, as my instructor. She spent countless hours in the car with me giving me tips, advice, and teaching me driving etiquette, courtesy and respect toward other drivers. That was priceless, and I doubt many Thai kids benefit from that kind of guidance. 

I see people driving here, with their families in the car, and doing things, and taking the kinds of risks no rational or sane person with common sense would do. What for? To gain one minute? Why take those risks? What is the logic? Often, when I am cruising along at 100kph, someone cuts right in front of me. Or someone comes out from the side road, right in front of me. I have to slam on my brakes, or change lanes to avoid him. I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me. So, if he had waited two seconds, he would have had completely safe passage onto the highway. What gives? Where is the intelligence, caution, and prudence? Where is the common sense? What about just the survival instinct?

 

It is all about catching people performing moving violations. That is what causes most accidents. And herein lies the deterrent. As long as everyone is allowed to get away with extremely reckless driving, entering the highway in front of an oncoming vehicle that is only 100 meters away, going 100kph, cutting in front of vehicles within one meter at high speeds, swerving like crazy idiots all over the highway, trucks and 40 year old cars occupying the fast lane doing 40kph, when other vehicles are approaching doing 120kph, drunk driving, etc, accidents, major injuries and deaths will continue to happen, and no amount of rhetoric and platitudes by the fabulously incompetent and insincere authorities are going to make any difference.

 

All of this applies even more so, if you are driving a bike with a sidecar, or a motorbike. Not to sound too cold, as I feel for the family of this woman, but Darwin was right. Some people are better equipped for survival than others. It takes some effort here. 

 

 

[jaiyen]

And the police pick up is parked even further out into the road ! 

 

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

So the pick-up car should instead have been parked half on the narrow hard shoulder and half on the pavement..?

Anybody here that know and can explain the rules..?

Rules are guidelines, guidelines are grey, grey blends in with the road.

There, all cleared up.

[Benmart]

Another avoidable and sad death. The police come out after after the fact  in lieu of pro-active, community based policing, an unknown art in these parts.

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, he does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, prevention, enforcement of the law, or concern toward the prosecution of very reckless drivers.

 

Those of us with driving skill, and a strong desire for not only survival, but the avoidance of terrible injury, are constantly scanning the road, in front of us, beside us, and behind us. There are an exceptionally high number of reckless fools on these roads, and it is the only way to preserve our lives, and those of our families, and friends, who may be driving with us, and depending on us. 

When I was growing up, we took drivers education courses. They showed us horrendous films, of semi trucks plowing into cars, and literally obliterating everything in their path. They also showed us graphic images of head on collisions. 120mph impacts. Even as a young kid, it made quite an impression. It was horrific, and it was hard to get those images out of your head afterwards. But, it left a lasting impression, and when I started driving, I understood it was serious business, and that it was a very dangerous thing to do. Also, I had the benefit of my lovely Mom, as my instructor. She spent countless hours in the car with me giving me tips, advice, and teaching me driving etiquette, courtesy and respect toward other drivers. That was priceless, and I doubt many Thai kids benefit from that kind of guidance. 

I see people driving here, with their families in the car, and doing things, and taking the kinds of risks no rational or sane person with common sense would do. What for? To gain one minute? Why take those risks? What is the logic? Often, when I am cruising along at 100kph, someone cuts right in front of me. Or someone comes out from the side road, right in front of me. I have to slam on my brakes, or change lanes to avoid him. I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me. So, if he had waited two seconds, he would have had completely safe passage onto the highway. What gives? Where is the intelligence, caution, and prudence? Where is the common sense? What about just the survival instinct?

 

It is all about catching people performing moving violations. That is what causes most accidents. And herein lies the deterrent. As long as everyone is allowed to get away with extremely reckless driving, entering the highway in front of an oncoming vehicle that is only 100 meters away, going 100kph, cutting in front of vehicles within one meter at high speeds, swerving like crazy idiots all over the highway, trucks and 40 year old cars occupying the fast lane doing 40kph, when other vehicles are approaching doing 120kph, drunk driving, etc, accidents, major injuries and deaths will continue to happen, and no amount of rhetoric and platitudes by the fabulously incompetent and insincere authorities are going to make any difference.

 

All of this applies even more so, if you are driving a bike with a sidecar, or a motorbike. Not to sound too cold, as I feel for the family of this woman, but Darwin was right. Some people are better equipped for survival than others. It takes some effort here. 

 

 

Sums it up perfectly. And nothing will change.

[pgrahmm]

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

So.. Pickup parked without any care or consideration to others, which is not unusual at all in Thailand.

Pickup driver definitely complicit due to his carelessness. 

 

Deceased lady drives into stationary vehicle, not paying attention to where she is going. 

 

As is so commonly occurrent in Thailand it takes two people behaving either recklessly or carelessly for such an easily avoidable incident to happen.

 

- Had the pickup driver parked more carefully - the Samlor would have been free to ride down the road into any other stationary object. 

- Had the Samlor driver been paying more attention she would never had hit the pickup.

 

 

The absence of care and attention on Thailands roads is abundantly obvious everywhere and is somewhat of a facet in every day life. 

Or forced into the pickup truck by somebody squeezing the lane....Almost daily you see vehicles giving motorcy almost zero clearance or leeway.....

 

RIP lady, you were out there doing your best trying to provide for yourself & your family...

[Silencer]

Continual road awareness (as it changes constantly), in all directions, is not taught/learned here. That is the only way you might survive on the roads here without an accident. However, in this case, even the eyes forward approach failed. RIP.

[bluebluewater]

Thai people don't park - they just stop driving.

 

The truck is not moving and at a dead stop.  The poor woman just flat out runs into the back of it and, not having a helmet, bangs her head and passes from this life.   The law and right and wrong won't have much to do with it.  It's a shame about the lady.

[ujayujay]

Watch where you drive.....damn, should not be so difficult.....