Experts Advise Against Contracting Omicron Instead of Getting Vaccinated

[PoorSucker]

11 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

Do you also buy your medical insurance from nail salons as the women smile nicely ?

Got my PCR-test done at a beauty shop in Sweden before traveling here six months ago. 

Was asked to spit in a test tube, got my certification 8 hours later. 

Biggest scam industry right now is PCR-test before flying. 

There's no international authority to decide who can write certification. 

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

John Lorimer Campbell[3] is a British YouTuber and retired nurse educator who has posted YouTube video commenting on the COVID-19 pandemic since January 2020

Well, I just trust him a bit more than where the USA people get their news, Alex Jones, Fox and Tucker!

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

Suggest only Covid data from western medical institutes or specialist western professors be consulted. Departure from that path leads only to false irrational beliefs.

For some it might.... but Campbell is not presenting his own data, only his own commentary.  His data is taken from good sources. Your view is blinkered. I appreciate when he presents data and even tells us it's limitations. Professors themselves do not produce the type of data we talk of, but are mostly collected by institutions and sadly Governments. 

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, Harveyg said:

Dr. Campbell is but one.  There are many others.  Look for them if you want minimal conflict of interest.  You should also be able to find additional ways to inform your situation.

Time is a limiting factor, and multiple sources often conflict and muddy the waters. I lost faith in the WHO early in the pandemic.

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, Harveyg said:

It is useful to know where the WHO gets its funding.  Not to mention who owns the bbc.

Exactly... a lot of leveraged opinion out there. 

That said, one has to quickly recognize the crazies and conspiracy foolishness and the ranters and ravers. Easily found in the USA by Sky News early in the pandemic.  

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

Do you also buy your medical insurance from nail salons as the women smile nicely ? Incredibly naive & irrational. Something you should keep to yourself & fellow QAnon pseudos…..????

Non sequitur.

I buy via a broker who likely is only interested in the best profit margin or his commission. 

Keep your insulting comments to yourself.... last refuge of the desperate. 

[jacko45k]

6 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

So What? So does Jeremy Clarkson but wouldn’t ask his opinion on medical insurance or brain surgery. Clue: he’s NOT QUALIFIED.
 

Campbell is a discredited charlatan pushing ivermectin as Covid cure. 

A crank ex- nurse pseud.

Is he really.... you have met Dr Campbell?

I do not see where he is disqualified and if one listens to him one recognizes he knows the subject. I suspect you have not, and if anyone is coming from a position of ignorance it might well be you. You appear to be raving... like insulting people, it comes across as desperate. Why is that? 

[jacko45k]

5 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Think I got the omicron, had light flu symptoms and guy at work tested positive. 

Got my booster anyway last week. 

I got #3 jabbed when the Mrs found out they were doing them at the nearby temple.....

Had a sore arm for over 2 weeks now! Don't believe I have had any omicron itself, but my socializing is deliberately being limited. Got the news my gardener's mother died of Covid, elderly yes, brought in by out of province visiting relatives. 

[TropicalGuy]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Is he really.... you have met Dr Campbell?

I do not see where he is disqualified and if one listens to him one recognizes he knows the subject. I suspect you have not, and if anyone is coming from a position of ignorance it might well be you. You appear to be raving... like insulting people, it comes across as desperate. Why is that? 

You have got wrong here everything possible to get wrong.Quite a Feat ! ????????????

Not in the habit of meeting known charlatans. Nor visiting the North Pole to see if it is really quite cold????
 

Am in the habit here of challenging nonsense & ridiculing the promotion of pseuds & disinformation. thought we were long done with that form of discredited folly.  

Clearly not “ ignorant” or “ blinkered” to apply normal rationality & logic (which you have clearly abandoned here) and restrict oneself to gold standard qualified information sources, especially in personal health matters.

 

why not shove your absurd  “ranting & raving” (+ “ have you met him”) nonsense “ insults” too?

You have been naturally ridiculed for taking a ridiculous stance. What did you expect ? 

[TropicalGuy]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Exactly... a lot of leveraged opinion out there. 

That said, one has to quickly recognize the crazies and conspiracy foolishness and the ranters and ravers. Easily found in the USA by Sky News early in the pandemic.  

Christ…. the abundant hypocrisy.

YOU are clearly part of that “ ivermectin etc.” clown show by promoting Nurse Campbell ! ????????

[Boomer6969]

On 4/18/2022 at 8:59 AM, gearbox said:

Don't worry, you'll get infected too..I had 3 Pfizer shots, still got covid.

But you are here to tell us, aren't you?

[TropicalGuy]

14 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

WHO owns the BBC?!?

No because they “Won’t Get Fooled Again”???????? they bought the “ Magic Bus” instead???? from “ Baba O’ Reilly”.????????????????

[TropicalGuy]

30 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

But you are here to tell us, aren't you?

Vax doesn’t always stop Covid infection but nearly always reduces effects to non- serious. Only 3% hospital Covid deaths in western countries are Vaxxed.

[TropicalGuy]

21 hours ago, KhunLA said:

????

Reckon after three western jabs I’m done with this now. This 4th jab business starts to lend credence even to the anti vax fools.

[Bkk Brian]

42 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said:

Christ…. the abundant hypocrisy.

YOU are clearly part of that “ ivermectin etc.” clown show by promoting Nurse Campbell ! ????????

I'm afraid Mr Campbell even fails to get back to the original authors of studies when they call him out on invermectin.

https://twitter.com/AesBrah/status/1501021357869613063

 

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, TropicalGuy said:

Reckon after three western jabs I’m done with this now. This 4th jab business starts to lend credence even to the anti vax fools.

I, we fall in the no jab category.  Seems to have worked quite well for me & the wife, 67 & 45 respectfully.  Without the concern of any unknown future side effects.

[unblocktheplanet]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I lost faith in the WHO early in the pandemic.

Maybe so. But we have nothing but COVAX to get vax to the third world. Not even sure if it's too late to prevent the incubation of new strains.

[Mr Derek]

On 4/18/2022 at 9:53 AM, Tropposurfer said:

Ignorant people still going down this uninformed 'catch the virus so you become immune' rubbish, and risking severe consequences instead of getting vaccinated and if catching it having a high percentage chance of nothing more than mild flu symptoms road. Ya can't fix stupid, ignorant, and gullible. 

And you can't fix paranoid.

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

Christ…. the abundant hypocrisy.

YOU are clearly part of that “ ivermectin etc.” clown show by promoting Nurse Campbell ! ????????

You appear to be losing your cool and ranting.  Another one unable to handle discussion, goodbye, you are into my trolls club! 

[Rampant Rabbit]

On 4/18/2022 at 6:44 AM, jacko45k said:

Hmm... despite my lack of training and knowledge in this subject, I was leaning towards a preference of getting infected (by omicron)  rather than the 3rd jab of MRNA... everything I was hearing (reading and Dr John Campbell mainly) made me feel it was unlikely to produce symptoms any worse than a cold, and ultimately give better immunity results. 

In the end, got the 3rd jab...... 

Am  just  getting over 4  days of  getting Omicron and its  EXACTLY the same as what ive gotten all my  life, headache, thick head, barking cough like a  dog, firts day is the worst but  by  no means awful,  just normal. 

After now  getting it I have ZERO plans for anymore vaccinations (tow pfizer) as this natural infection  IS the  best protection you can get, ie catching Omicron.

As Cambell says what  applied last year with vaccinations being necessary, now  no  longer  applies in many cases.

[ozimoron]

23 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Am  just  getting over 4  days of  getting Omicron and its  EXACTLY the same as what ive gotten all my  life, headache, thick head, barking cough like a  dog, firts day is the worst but  by  no means awful,  just normal. 

After now  getting it I have ZERO plans for anymore vaccinations (tow pfizer) as this natural infection  IS the  best protection you can get, ie catching Omicron.

As Cambell says what  applied last year with vaccinations being necessary, now  no  longer  applies in many cases.

One of my friends just died of covid after having three vaccinations. It was time for his fourth which may have saved him. He was diabetic but it was well controlled and he was 78.

 

My best advice is take the lower risk road and get whatever vaccinations that medical experts suggest.

[hughrection]

14 hours ago, TropicalGuy said:

Campbell is a discredited charlatan pushing ivermectin as Covid cure. 

A crank ex- nurse pseud.

None of what you say here is true. He has never pushed anything onto anyone. He simply reads facts that people might not otherwise have access to.

If he was 'pushing ivermectin' then he would have been removed from the platform long ago.

 

His channel simply states facts and lets you make up your own mind. I find it most useful. ????

[hughrection]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

One of my friends just died of covid after having three vaccinations. It was time for his fourth which may have saved him. He was diabetic but it was well controlled and he was 78.

 

My best advice is take the lower risk road and get whatever vaccinations that medical experts suggest.

If you are 78 and a diabetic - absolutely.

 

If in good physical shape and under 65 - more consideration is needed. Average age of death from Covid in the UK was 78. 

 

Average age of those who had died with COVID-19 - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

 

That was with the Delta. Omicron appears to me more transmissible but less deadly.

[TropicalGuy]

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I, we fall in the no jab category.  Seems to have worked quite well for me & the wife, 67 & 45 respectfully.  Without the concern of any unknown future side effects.

My fit Thai lady aged 40 remains unvaxxed. Because “a person died” 12 months ago from the vaccine or whatever. Uni Educated & Low Risk but no concept or acceptance of far greater statistical risk by not vaxxing. 
 

There have never been any “long term side effects” in the entire history of vaccines though. 
 

97% Western Covid Hospital Deaths are Unvaxxed. 

[TropicalGuy]

10 hours ago, jacko45k said:

You appear to be losing your cool and ranting.  Another one unable to handle discussion, goodbye, you are into my trolls club! 

No discussion possible with the irrational, so I never attempt it, just challenge & reject nonsense. 

[TropicalGuy]

9 hours ago, hughrection said:

None of what you say here is true. He has never pushed anything onto anyone. He simply reads facts that people might not otherwise have access to.

If he was 'pushing ivermectin' then he would have been removed from the platform long ago.

 

His channel simply states facts and lets you make up your own mind. I find it most useful. ????

It’s Entertainment not Science though.  

[KhunLA]

8 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said:

There have never been any “long term side effects” in the entire history of vaccines though. 
 

97% Western Covid Hospital Deaths are Unvaxxed. 

2 opinions, statements I happen to disagree with.... IMHO ...

 

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.  Have a nice day

[TropicalGuy]

On 4/18/2022 at 10:13 AM, Enzian said:

This seems to say that in Thailand at least there has been no recorded case of someone with 4 shots dying. Or do they mean just the people included in the study conducted in Chiang Mai? Six weeks after my 4th shot I got a case that was extremely mild, so mild that if I knew that living it up would result in a similar case again I would hardly care.

Article says even booster (3rd shot) is 98-99% effective against Death so basically the 4th jab might get you a 1% further reduced risk at best especially with no conditions. Clearly 4th jab not viable then yet health workers here forced to take it I hear. 

Article triple vaxxed death rate here of 1% or 2% ( which is it then?) close to western vaxxed Covid death rate of around 3% of hospital cases. 

[TropicalGuy]

15 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

2 opinions, statements I happen to disagree with.... IMHO ...

 

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.  Have a nice day

Facts not Opinions. Uncomfortable in your chosen higher risk positions  no doubt ( as with my lady) but there we are. 

[ozimoron]

A friend of a friend is reportedly getting regular, severe night fevers months after a covid infection.