Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[KhunLA]

At a coffee shop, in Nakhon Nowhere, and 3 MGs in the parking area (ES, ZS & 4), 1/3 of vehicles.  They're everywhere ... where you going go, where you going run, where you going hide ... 

 

 

[JBChiangRai]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

It's not pink, it's coral. Pink is for sissies. 

Phew, I’m glad we got that sorted out.

 

Where can I get some high heels in Coral Pink?

[Bandersnatch]

5 hours ago, greg71 said:

Interesting vid about geofencing of ev cars 
https://www.instagram.com/p/C7j0X7zCBBa/?hl=en

You have joined a discussion about Electric Vehicles in Thailand and your contribution is a link to instagram page of an EV hating vet in the UK quoting another EV hater quoting an EVs terms and conditions that he clearly doesn’t understand and you describe this twaddle as “interesting vid” 

[vinny41]

On 6/21/2024 at 5:33 AM, vinny41 said:

For existing Byd owners or anyone that was planning to use BYD Loyalty Privilege campaign
 Friend Gets Friend Campaign the savings are very small compared to pre discount pricing and freebies

1. Maintenance cost for 8 years 160,000 km = 26,550

2. Charged cable with installation = 35,000

Can't join campaign (charge credit)

1. Referral fee credit charge 30,000

2. Existing customer bought credit recharge 40,000

https://www.reverautomotive.com/news/friend-gets-friend-campaign

Total, no additional payment if you use all the rights = 131,550

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2389905174463399/permalink/7667635510023646

so anyone that was planning to use all of the above the savings on the new price reductions against pre discount prices are B8,549 and savings of B28,549 on the extended model

 

The female customer is very stressed. Reversing the red label of famous brand EVs. Before finding out about the price cut, the damage was worth 150,000 baht.

Purchase Dolphin standard car end of April price B659,900

 20% down payment, 72 instalment's = 131,980 + 8,736×72, added film for another 9,860 baht, total is 744,912 baht

https://www.matichon.co.th/social/news_4642170

https://www.facebook.com/groups/bydthailand/permalink/825732929533490

The above numbers don't seem to be correct 8,736x72=B628,992+B131,980=B760,972+B9,860= Total B770,832

Purchase Dolphin standard car today Price B559,900

20% down B111,980 72 instalment's B7,412=B533,664 + 20% down payment B111,980 Total B645,644

Difference in price between April 2024 price and today price is  B125,188

However anyone that bought April 2024 price and utilized the BYD Loyalty Privilege campaign
 Friend Gets Friend Campaign

Maintenance cost for 8 years 160,000 km = 26,550

2. home wall charger cable with installation = 35,000

Total value of all of the above B131,550

Anyone that Bought March-April Motor show price B659,900 and utilized all of the above is would be paying an extra  B3,498 including the  Max film cost

Anyone paying cash would be B21,690 ( including Max film ) better off buying in March-April Motor show price B659,900

 

Edited June 22 by vinny41
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[ExpatOilWorker]

20 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

That's probably an Atto 3, as the MG ZS registration tag is below the trunk (2022).

 

The Atto 3 is doing well after being tested hard on the Thai roads.

 

Edited June 22 by ExpatOilWorker

[Yellowtail]

12 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

You have joined a discussion about Electric Vehicles in Thailand and your contribution is a link to instagram page of an EV hating vet in the UK quoting another EV hater quoting an EVs terms and conditions that he clearly doesn’t understand and you describe this twaddle as “interesting vid” 

 

You forgot: 

 

[owl sees all]

On 6/21/2024 at 8:26 PM, Bandersnatch said:

 

The Thai month abbreviations didn’t get translated very well. So here they are in Thai

 

 

I'm gonna get 'The Beast' version. Will blow the opposition out of the water on the dirt roads up here in Isaan. 

 

Does it deal OK with pot-holes?

[Andrew Dwyer]

Just now, owl sees all said:

I'm gonna get 'The Beast' version. Will blow the opposition out of the water on the dirt roads up here in Isaan. 

 

Does it deal OK with pot-holes?

Make sure you keep it clean, some reports that they are prone to rusting.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

I'm gonna get 'The Beast' version. Will blow the opposition out of the water on the dirt roads up here in Isaan. 

 

Does it deal OK with pot-holes?

The pot-heads seem to love it. 

[Pib]

7 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Make sure you keep it clean, some reports that they are prone to rusting.

 

 

 

 

[owl sees all]

14 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Make sure you keep it clean, some reports that they are prone to rusting.

 

 

 

You have turned me right off The Beast with that pic. Especially as I don't agree with washing/cleaning vehicles. Just the windows. Nature will look after them. A bit of rain. A bit of sun.

[Andrew Dwyer]

29 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

 

You have turned me right off The Beast with that pic. Especially as I don't agree with washing/cleaning vehicles. Just the windows. Nature will look after them. A bit of rain. A bit of sun.

Just don’t let Mrs Owl know you now have around $100k going spare !!

[ExpatOilWorker]

The killing fields of EV manufacturers.

 

[Yellowtail]

21 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The killing fields of EV manufacturers.

 

That's what happens when governments circumvent the market with subsidies picking winners and losers. 

[Pib]

22 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The killing fields of EV manufacturers.

 

 

 

Let's add some ICEV companies to above.  Below is a response from a Markus Stolmar to Vincent Galan.

 

[Yellowtail]

15 minutes ago, Pib said:

 

 

Let's add some ICEV companies to above.  Below is a response from a Markus Stolmar to Vincent Galan.

 

So, 15 in 60 years, and at least 7 of those were just brands, not really companies. 

 

That all he had? 

[Pib]

37 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The killing fields of EV manufacturers.

 

 

 

I've never heard of many of these companies....I googled two of the bankrupt ones (Proterra and Arcimoto)....turns out they were American companies who tried making electric buses and/or electric utility vehicles....both sold a minimum number of these special purposes vehicles....not exactly a mass market electric car builder.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proterra_(bus_manufacturer)#:~:text=Proterra Inc.,Proterra Inc.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcimoto

[JBChiangRai]

EOW isn’t one to let a small thing like accuracy get in the way of a story.

[Ralf001]

On 6/18/2024 at 2:21 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

From the toys department: Fomm One.

 

 

Am  keen on one of these.

Picked up a cheap GSXR1000 for parts, reckon the motor would make for a great conversion

[vinny41]

Data shows that in 2018, the number of new energy vehicle companies in China exceeded 487. By 2023, there will be only more than 40 new energy vehicle companies 

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/The-Big-Story/How-China-s-BYD-went-from-bargain-battery-maker-to-Tesla-s-biggest-rival

[Yellowtail]

12 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Am  keen on one of these.

Picked up a cheap GSXR1000 for parts, reckon the motor would make for a great conversion

Our local 7-11 has one of those (the Fomm not the suzi) for deliveries. 

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, Pib said:

 

 

Let's add some ICEV companies to above.  Below is a response from a Markus Stolmar to Vincent Galan.

 

Appreciate the list, but it is almost as if Thailand 🇹🇭 has started their own path of zero-dollar auto manufacturing. Solid well established legacy automakers are packing up and leaving and being replaced with lesser valued and less established EV companies. 

Is this really a smart move for Thailand?

Edited June 23 by ExpatOilWorker

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Data shows that in 2018, the number of new energy vehicle companies in China exceeded 487. By 2023, there will be only more than 40 new energy vehicle companies 

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/The-Big-Story/How-China-s-BYD-went-from-bargain-battery-maker-to-Tesla-s-biggest-rival

How many dot-com start-ups were there between 1995 & 2005? How many of them, are still around? 

 

"Specifically, by the depression of 1929, American car manufacturers shrunk from 2,000 initially to just 98. During the 1930s, at the height of the depression, this number dwindled all the way down to 44." 

 

Cars We Remember: From 2,000 to 4; a short history of American car companies (gainesville.com)

[JBChiangRai]

1 hour ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Appreciate the list, but it is almost as if Thailand 🇹🇭 has started their own path of zero-dollar auto manufacturing. Solid well established legacy automakers are packing up and leaving and being replaced with lesser valued and less established EV companies. 

Is this really a smart move for Thailand?

If China’s automakers didn’t make them here, they’d make them in Vietnam or Cambodia.

 

Those solid, well established, legacy automakers can’t blame anyone but themselves, they could have made EV’s too.

 

Better that Thailand have Chinese EV makers than no automakers at all.

Edited June 23 by JBChiangRai
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[JBChiangRai]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Am  keen on one of these.

Picked up a cheap GSXR1000 for parts, reckon the motor would make for a great conversion

Why stop there, you could go steam powered or add a horse in a harness.

[Ralf001]

11 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Why stop there, you could go steam powered or add a horse in a harness.

I just purchased another steam engine, A Kacio LS3-13S.

It will go into a 120cm ship Iam 3D printing.

Not into horses, they cost too much.

Edited June 23 by Ralf001

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

I just purchased another steam engine, A Kacio LS3-13S.

It will go into a 120cm ship Iam 3D printing.

Not into horses, they cost too much.

My ex-wife had a horse, it was cheap compared to her.

[Ralf001]

25 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

My ex-wife had a horse, it was cheap compared to her.

did she have a long face ?

[JBChiangRai]

29 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

did she have a long face ?

Neigh she didn’t 

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

If China’s automakers didn’t make them here, they’d make them in Vietnam or Cambodia.

 

Those solid, well established, legacy automakers can’t blame anyone but themselves, they could have made EV’s too.

 

Better that Thailand have Chinese EV makers than no automakers at all.

That is a fair and valid argument, but the auto manufacturers did what they were told through tax incentives and build hybrids. We had hybrids in large numbers here way earlier than Europe.

At first some half-hearted models with 1-2 kWh batteries and 10 kw motors, but soon some amazing technology with integrated ICE/ electric transmissions, with 100 kw motors.

Yes, maybe I am a bit Nokia sentimental towards the legacy auto makers, I think we are taking a wrong turn and in a decade or so, many will miss the old brands.