Electric Vehicles in Thailand

vinny41 · July 31

"BYD Electric Car Company" compensates old customers with free charging for 1 year | 7 Colors News

The results of the discussion between the government and the executives of the electric car company BYD have concluded on measures to compensate old customers after there were complaints to the Office of the Consumer Protection Board (OCPB) that the price reduction was unfair. The latest initial compensation measures will allow around 50,000 old customers to charge their cars for free at 2,000 charging stations nationwide, starting tomorrow for 1 year. Details will be announced later. As for other measures, the company will go back and consider them. The government will invite representatives from both parties to mediate again

Bandersnatch · August 1

39 minutes ago, Johno57 said:

Too damn expensive and resale value ridiculous, so why even think about it, this battery car scam will disappear within a couple of years, and the world will rejoice...

Welcome to the discussion @Johno57 here at EVs in Thailand we prefer facts over opinions, particularly if those opinions uniformed.

”Too damn expensive” - not sure what your budget is John, but if you could if could afford a new car then a Suzuki Swift is normally considered a cheap car. Anything cheaper would be considered very cheap.

“resale value ridiculous”

This one I have to agree with you. The prices of second hand EVs need to come down in price, they should at least be cheaper than new cars.

“this battery car scam will disappear within a couple of years, and the world will rejoice”

Not sure where you’re getting information from John, perhaps you can post a link.

I’ve had solar batteries for 6 years and EVs for 4 and the don’t see them as a scam as I don’t have a PEA bill or fuel bill - doesn’t sound like a scam to me.

As for EVs disappearing in a couple of years that doesn’t agree with rising sales of EV stats I posted above.

Pib · August 1

45 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

The latest initial compensation measures will allow around 50,000 old customers to charge their cars for free at 2,000 charging stations nationwide, starting tomorrow for 1 year. Details will be announced later. As for other measures, the company will go back and consider them. The government will invite representatives from both parties to mediate again

Nothing like letting the free chatging begin already (i.e., today) without any details being given already.

thesetat2013 · August 1

On 4/23/2022 at 3:27 PM, CLW said:

I don't own a car at the moment but in the near future planning to buy one.

Definitely EV, currently Ora Good cat is my favourite. But let's see what other cars might be available here within this year. Any sedan or hatchback is welcome. MG5 would be great as EV, love the design.

But at the moment, Good cat has the most driving assist features, good looking and affordable price.

About two wheelers, I would wait until there are Evs from the well-known manufacturers are available. Also, I'd like to make tours with my motorcycle. Currently there are no long range or proper e-motorcycles available here. Also not really see the point for two wheelers being electric. Since changing to 4-stroke engines, the emissions and fuel consumption are neglibible compared to a car.

Given all of the recent videos being posted in China about EV batteries catching fire. You may want to wait a few years before considering buying one. I have been watching China social media content recently and there are many cases coming out now showing these batteries literally spitting flames out and even fire departments were unable to douse the flames.

Pib · August 1

1 hour ago, Johno57 said:

Too damn expensive and resale value ridiculous, so why even think about it, this battery car scam will disappear within a couple of years, and the world will rejoice...

Maybe you are talking new EV prices in your home country, but in Thailand many new EVs are not expensive especially those EVs which don't incur an import tax nor have a hefty excise tax under trade agreement like Chinese made EV such as those shown on Bandersnatch's post above.

And EVs continue to get cheaper (big time) as cut throat pricing for about a year now has been underway in Thailand for EVs (which are selling very well)...and many ICEV have also jointed the pricing war in trying to remain competitive.

Now the used car ICEV and EV resale markets in Thailand are undergoing a major, major change right now due to the new car cut throat pricing, EVs cutting into ICEV market share, Thai banks tightening up on financing for all types of loans (especially new car loans), etc.

If one of my Thai in-laws who sells used cars is right he has said it's much harder to sell a used car today than two years ago due to more people perferring to buy a new vehicle and new car cut throat pricing over the last year.

The ongoing new and used car price reductions is being driven by generational and technological changes primarily driven by Chinese vehicle manufacturers and EVs finally taking away a big piece of ICEV sales. Times do change.

Bandersnatch · August 1

1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said:

Given all of the recent videos being posted in China about EV batteries catching fire. You may want to wait a few years before considering buying one. I have been watching China social media content recently and there are many cases coming out now showing these batteries literally spitting flames out and even fire departments were unable to douse the flames.

:offtopic2:

This topic is “electric vehicles in Thailand” not “EVs in China”

If you want to start your own discussion please do so but don’t hijack this one.

We have busted the myth about China EV fires many times, but you couldn’t be bothered to check before posting - what a time waster!

There are several Anti China channels that are happy to post anything that makes China look bad, they are not EV experts and clearly don’t know the difference between an EV a HEV or a PHEV. Most of the fires I have seen have been in PHEVs.

We restrict this topic to Thailand only as it much easier to fact check what is posted about Thailand.

Most new EVs have moved away from NMC Cathode Chemistry to LFP which far safer and what we recommend here. Having said that all EVs are far less lightly to catch fire than ICE vehicles.

Thanks to @JBChiangRai (I think) for posting this previously.

Fire

The figures are how often a car with an ICE engine under the bonnet catches fire compared to a pure EV, figures are per 100,000 sales so are harmonised to the fact there are more ICE vehicles on the road.

Sweden 147 times more likely (3400/23)
Petrol and diesel cars 20 times more likely to catch fire than EVs (thedriven.io)

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

Singapore 118 times more likely (356/3)
EV fire cases rise with growing adoption of such cars | The Straits Times
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/ev-fire-cases-rise-with-growing-adoption

Australia 98 times more likely (393/4)
Electric vehicle fires are very rare. The risk for petrol and diesel vehicles is at least 20 times higher (theconversation.com)

https://theconversation.com/electric-vehicle-fires-are-very-rare-the-risk-for-petrol-and-diesel-vehicles-is-at-least-20-times-higher-213468

America 199 times more likely (5004/25.1)
Government data show gasoline vehicles are up to 100x more prone to fires than EVs | Electrek
https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-shows-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone-to-fires-than-evs/

UK:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/20/do-electric-cars-pose-a-greater-fire-risk-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles

newnative · August 1

Spouse and I are building a new house and we have installed an EV charger. We are waiting to see the new BYD Seal U suv and hope there will be a plug-in hybrid version. We think our next car will either be a plug-in hybrid as our only car or we keep the CR-V we have and buy a small all-electric for mostly around town use. Plug-in hybrids seem to be limited in choice at the moment here in Thailand. Hopefully, there will be some models from Honda and Toyota soon.

JBChiangRai · August 1

6 minutes ago, newnative said:

Spouse and I are building a new house and we have installed an EV charger. We are waiting to see the new BYD Seal U suv and hope there will be a plug-in hybrid version. We think our next car will either be a plug-in hybrid as our only car or we keep the CR-V we have and buy a small all-electric for mostly around town use. Plug-in hybrids seem to be limited in choice at the moment here in Thailand. Hopefully, there will be some models from Honda and Toyota soon.

The Haval H6 is a good PHEV.

thesetat2013 · August 1

46 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

This topic is “electric vehicles in Thailand” not “EVs in China”

If you want to start your own discussion please do so but don’t hijack this one.

We have busted the myth about China EV fires many times, but you couldn’t be bothered to check before posting - what a time waster!

There are several Anti China channels that are happy to post anything that makes China look bad, they are not EV experts and clearly don’t know the difference between an EV a HEV or a PHEV. Most of the fires I have seen have been in PHEVs.

We restrict this topic to Thailand only as it much easier to fact check what is posted about Thailand.

Most new EVs have moved away from NMC Cathode Chemistry to LFP which far safer and what we recommend here. Having said that all EVs are far less lightly to catch fire than ICE vehicles.

Thanks to @JBChiangRai (I think) for posting this previously.

Fire

The figures are how often a car with an ICE engine under the bonnet catches fire compared to a pure EV, figures are per 100,000 sales so are harmonised to the fact there are more ICE vehicles on the road.

Sweden 147 times more likely (3400/23)
Petrol and diesel cars 20 times more likely to catch fire than EVs (thedriven.io)

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

Singapore 118 times more likely (356/3)
EV fire cases rise with growing adoption of such cars | The Straits Times
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/ev-fire-cases-rise-with-growing-adoption

Australia 98 times more likely (393/4)
Electric vehicle fires are very rare. The risk for petrol and diesel vehicles is at least 20 times higher (theconversation.com)

https://theconversation.com/electric-vehicle-fires-are-very-rare-the-risk-for-petrol-and-diesel-vehicles-is-at-least-20-times-higher-213468

America 199 times more likely (5004/25.1)
Government data show gasoline vehicles are up to 100x more prone to fires than EVs | Electrek
https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-shows-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone-to-fires-than-evs/

UK:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/20/do-electric-cars-pose-a-greater-fire-risk-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles

Firstly, you want to separate China EV from Thailand EV but they both come from the same.. China. Either imported or built by Chinese companies in Thailand. So you can not separate those.

Second, I appreciate your links sent but honestly I do not read rags. The news services from those links are called tabloid news for a reason.

And last if not all, although you try to make EVs so good without risk, makes it seem as if you are trying to promote them. Advertise to get one even. I did not hijack your thread.. Merely stated that there is considerable risk to fires that even the fire departments have trouble controlling. You can not say that the videos i saw were old or a certain type of battery. That is only your assumption. My suggestion was to wait and see what happens with the EVs that are presently out in Thailand die to what was seen on Chinese social media with many EV cars catching fire. You twisted that into hijacking the thread, which is not what I did. China has been using EV for a lot longer than Thailand and have more vehicles on their roads that are EV than Thailand so it makes a good comparison to what my post suggested could happen and probably will.

If you want to focus only on Thailand without any reference, then use the fact that usually only substandard products are made and distributed in Thailand. Imagine the quality of their EVs made only in Thailand using cheap labour and cutting corners to make more profit ( as thais usually do in everything ). then you have to consider more about the power needs in Thailand are not being met without so many EVs using rolling blackouts in some regions to make sure they have enough electric. My home in the south gets blackouts monthly from the electric company for this reason. How will Thailand meet a surge in supplying electric to so many EVs? Currently there is more risk to have an EV than there should be for several reasons. Safety and fire hazards and electric availability are only a few to name.

vinny41 · August 1

12 minutes ago, newnative said:

Spouse and I are building a new house and we have installed an EV charger. We are waiting to see the new BYD Seal U suv and hope there will be a plug-in hybrid version. We think our next car will either be a plug-in hybrid as our only car or we keep the CR-V we have and buy a small all-electric for mostly around town use. Plug-in hybrids seem to be limited in choice at the moment here in Thailand. Hopefully, there will be some models from Honda and Toyota soon.

Byd Seal U has been renamed for Thailand it is now the BYD Sealion 6 (Plug-in Hybrid) DM 4.0

https://autolifethailand.tv/photo-byd-sealion6-phev-dmi-thailand-spec/

Gweiloman · August 1

15 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Firstly, you want to separate China EV from Thailand EV but they both come from the same.. China. Either imported or built by Chinese companies in Thailand. So you can not separate those.

Second, I appreciate your links sent but honestly I do not read rags. The news services from those links are called tabloid news for a reason.

And last if not all, although you try to make EVs so good without risk, makes it seem as if you are trying to promote them. Advertise to get one even. I did not hijack your thread.. Merely stated that there is considerable risk to fires that even the fire departments have trouble controlling. You can not say that the videos i saw were old or a certain type of battery. That is only your assumption. My suggestion was to wait and see what happens with the EVs that are presently out in Thailand die to what was seen on Chinese social media with many EV cars catching fire. You twisted that into hijacking the thread, which is not what I did. China has been using EV for a lot longer than Thailand and have more vehicles on their roads that are EV than Thailand so it makes a good comparison to what my post suggested could happen and probably will.

If you want to focus only on Thailand without any reference, then use the fact that usually only substandard products are made and distributed in Thailand. Imagine the quality of their EVs made only in Thailand using cheap labour and cutting corners to make more profit ( as thais usually do in everything ). then you have to consider more about the power needs in Thailand are not being met without so many EVs using rolling blackouts in some regions to make sure they have enough electric. My home in the south gets blackouts monthly from the electric company for this reason. How will Thailand meet a surge in supplying electric to so many EVs? Currently there is more risk to have an EV than there should be for several reasons. Safety and fire hazards and electric availability are only a few to name.

There is no doubt that EVs can catch fire. Then again, so can ICEVs. You said many EV fires. What’s many? 10, 100, 1,000? Out of how many? 1,000 sounds a lot when compared to 10,000 but is not when compared to 100,000 or 1,000,000.

newnative · August 1

18 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Byd Seal U has been renamed for Thailand it is now the BYD Sealion 6 (Plug-in Hybrid) DM 4.0

https://autolifethailand.tv/photo-byd-sealion6-phev-dmi-thailand-spec/

Thank you!

vinny41 · August 1

8 minutes ago, newnative said:

Thank you!

BYD Sealion 6 DM-i (Plug-in Hybrid) assembled in Thailand, launched on August 8, 2024! C-SUV competitor CR-V / H6

https://autolifethailand.tv/byd-sealion-6-dm-i-plug-in-hybrid-coming-thailand-8aug24/

Not long to wait 7 days

ExpatOilWorker · August 1

2 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

This topic is “electric vehicles in Thailand” not “EVs in China”

If you want to start your own discussion please do so but don’t hijack this one.

We have busted the myth about China EV fires many times, but you couldn’t be bothered to check before posting - what a time waster!

There are several Anti China channels that are happy to post anything that makes China look bad, they are not EV experts and clearly don’t know the difference between an EV a HEV or a PHEV. Most of the fires I have seen have been in PHEVs.

We restrict this topic to Thailand only as it much easier to fact check what is posted about Thailand.

Most new EVs have moved away from NMC Cathode Chemistry to LFP which far safer and what we recommend here. Having said that all EVs are far less lightly to catch fire than ICE vehicles.

Thanks to @JBChiangRai (I think) for posting this previously.

Fire

The figures are how often a car with an ICE engine under the bonnet catches fire compared to a pure EV, figures are per 100,000 sales so are harmonised to the fact there are more ICE vehicles on the road.

Sweden 147 times more likely (3400/23)
Petrol and diesel cars 20 times more likely to catch fire than EVs (thedriven.io)

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

Singapore 118 times more likely (356/3)
EV fire cases rise with growing adoption of such cars | The Straits Times
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/ev-fire-cases-rise-with-growing-adoption

Australia 98 times more likely (393/4)
Electric vehicle fires are very rare. The risk for petrol and diesel vehicles is at least 20 times higher (theconversation.com)

https://theconversation.com/electric-vehicle-fires-are-very-rare-the-risk-for-petrol-and-diesel-vehicles-is-at-least-20-times-higher-213468

America 199 times more likely (5004/25.1)
Government data show gasoline vehicles are up to 100x more prone to fires than EVs | Electrek
https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-shows-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone-to-fires-than-evs/

UK:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/20/do-electric-cars-pose-a-greater-fire-risk-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles

The FactCheck patrol 🚓 will have to step in here. EVs in Thailand burn 🔥 pretty well.

How come you don't like numbers from China, but happily quote fake numbers from 4 other countries???

Thai EV fire 🔥 risk: 10.1 fire/billion miles

Tesla global: 5 fire/billion miles

ICE (USA): 55 fires/billion miles

1. Tesla 3 - September 20th, 2021, power pole collision Rama 2.

2. BYD Atto 3 - January 21st, 2023, house fire, Songkran. Traction battery did not burn.

3. BYD Seal - March 14th, 2024, Ratchaburi roll-over.

4. Porsche Taycan - May 24th, 2024, battery explosion, Paradise Car Showroom.

5. Neta-V - June 11th, 2024, median accident and fire, Saraburi.

6. Neta-V - June 12th, 2024, accident and fire at towing area, Tha Phra, Khon Kaen.

7. MG ES - June 22nd, 2024, hit axle part on the road, Chonburi motorway.

JBChiangRai · August 1

1 minute ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The FactCheck patrol 🚓 will have to step in here. EVs in Thailand burn 🔥 pretty well.

How come you don't like numbers from China, but happily quote fake numbers from 4 other countries???

Thai EV fire 🔥 risk: 10.1 fire/billion miles

Tesla global: 5 fire/billion miles

ICE (USA): 55 fires/billion miles

1. Tesla 3 - September 20th, 2021, power pole collision Rama 2.

2. BYD Atto 3 - January 21st, 2023, house fire, Songkran. Traction battery did not burn.

3. BYD Seal - March 14th, 2024, Ratchaburi roll-over.

4. Porsche Taycan - May 24th, 2024, battery explosion, Paradise Car Showroom.

5. Neta-V - June 11th, 2024, median accident and fire, Saraburi.

6. Neta-V - June 12th, 2024, accident and fire at towing area, Tha Phra, Khon Kaen.

7. MG ES - June 22nd, 2024, hit axle part on the road, Chonburi motorway.

Yawn! Does anyone care?

I certainly don't!

newnative · August 1

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

BYD Sealion 6 DM-i (Plug-in Hybrid) assembled in Thailand, launched on August 8, 2024! C-SUV competitor CR-V / H6

https://autolifethailand.tv/byd-sealion-6-dm-i-plug-in-hybrid-coming-thailand-8aug24/

Not long to wait 7 days

Great!

Bandersnatch · August 1

2 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

I did not hijack your thread

But you posted

4 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

all of the recent videos being posted in China about EV batteries catching fire

I started this discussion for EVs in Thailand not to discuss videos posted in China - start your own discussion.

2 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

appreciate your links sent but honestly I do not read rags

You provided no links so your uniformed opinions are worthless as you have no direct experience of EVs sold in Thailand.

You claimed “that there is considerable risk to fires” but provided no evidence. You dismissed all the links I provided stating the opposite as you think you know better.

2 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

then you have to consider more about the power needs in Thailand are not being met without so many EVs using rolling blackouts in some regions to make sure they have enough electric

Yet again you demonstrate considerable ignorance of the EV situation in Thailand.

There is excess power in Thailand at night that’s why many EV owners charge at night using half price electricity.

In my case I power 2 EVs an electric motorbike and my house 100% from solar. Unlike you I’ve not had a power cut in over 6 years.

My main point is you turn up at a discussion that has nearly 8,000 posts with zero knowledge or experience of owning a EV in Thailand and start posting uniformed rubbish. So don’t be surprised when you get called out on it.

You will find that your opinions are far more welcome here:

https://aseannow.com/topic/1246109-ice-vs-ev-the-debate-thread/

ElwoodP · August 1

Some off topic posts removed.

Plenty of burning EV videos in Thailand.

vinny41 · August 1

6 hours ago, Pib said:

Maybe you are talking new EV prices in your home country, but in Thailand many new EVs are not expensive especially those EVs which don't incur an import tax nor have a hefty excise tax under trade agreement like Chinese made EV such as those shown on Bandersnatch's post above.

And EVs continue to get cheaper (big time) as cut throat pricing for about a year now has been underway in Thailand for EVs (which are selling very well)...and many ICEV have also jointed the pricing war in trying to remain competitive.

Now the used car ICEV and EV resale markets in Thailand are undergoing a major, major change right now due to the new car cut throat pricing, EVs cutting into ICEV market share, Thai banks tightening up on financing for all types of loans (especially new car loans), etc.

If one of my Thai in-laws who sells used cars is right he has said it's much harder to sell a used car today than two years ago due to more people perferring to buy a new vehicle and new car cut throat pricing over the last year.

The ongoing new and used car price reductions is being driven by generational and technological changes primarily driven by Chinese vehicle manufacturers and EVs finally taking away a big piece of ICEV sales. Times do change.

Used ICE car prices have been affected by the domino effect multiple issues the primary issue is oversupply of used cheap car stock

During 2023-2024, the used car market in Thailand faced significant challenges. In 2023, the number of cars seized by financial institutions was approximately 250,000-300,000 units, almost double from the previous year (150,000-180,000 units).

All seized cars were sent to auction lots. In 2023, there were almost 300,000 cars entering auction lots, resulting in an oversupply of used cars. Used car operators had to lower the selling price. Some dealerships may have to accept a loss in order to maintain the liquidity of the business.

https://mgronline.com/motoring/detail/9670000063452

Now when a private buyer or tent sells a car they aim to sell it for as close to what they believe the car is worth and majority will wait for the right price

The cars seized by financial institutions put up at auction also aim to get the highest amount possible for the car but if they will accept any offer rather than withdraw it from the auction sale and relist the car

The financial institutions know if the auction sale doesn't cover the finance balance they will go after the original buyer or the buyer guarantor to recover the balance from what ever assets they own

With Used EV's at the moment both tents and financial institutions are giving EV's a wide berth due to the fluctuating prices and unable to determine the value of the EV

When new prices of EV's drop in price by between B100K - B340K if you bought a used car before the price reduction impossible to sell without taking a major hit as no-one is going to buy at pre price reduction price

I did see last of the Neta V 1 for sale at B399k

Yellowtail · August 1

5 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Used ICE car prices have been affected by the domino effect multiple issues the primary issue is oversupply of used cheap car stock

During 2023-2024, the used car market in Thailand faced significant challenges. In 2023, the number of cars seized by financial institutions was approximately 250,000-300,000 units, almost double from the previous year (150,000-180,000 units).

All seized cars were sent to auction lots. In 2023, there were almost 300,000 cars entering auction lots, resulting in an oversupply of used cars. Used car operators had to lower the selling price. Some dealerships may have to accept a loss in order to maintain the liquidity of the business.

https://mgronline.com/motoring/detail/9670000063452

Now when a private buyer or tent sells a car they aim to sell it for as close to what they believe the car is worth and majority will wait for the right price

The cars seized by financial institutions put up at auction also aim to get the highest amount possible for the car but if they will accept any offer rather than withdraw it from the auction sale and relist the car

The financial institutions know if the auction sale doesn't cover the finance balance they will go after the original buyer or the buyer guarantor to recover the balance from what ever assets they own

With Used EV's at the moment both tents and financial institutions are giving EV's a wide berth due to the fluctuating prices and unable to determine the value of the EV

When new prices of EV's drop in price by between B100K - B340K if you bought a used car before the price reduction impossible to sell without taking a major hit as no-one is going to buy at pre price reduction price

I did see last of the Neta V 1 for sale at B399k

Indeed, used car prices have seemed to plummet to where they are actually attractive vs new.

JBChiangRai · August 1

51 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Indeed, used car prices have seemed to plummet to where they are actually attractive vs new.

I'm looking for and can't find a sensibly priced ORA Good Cat, I don't agree with you.

Yellowtail · August 1

28 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I'm looking for and can't find a sensibly priced ORA Good Cat, I don't agree with you.

What do they cost new?

Used ORA Bangkok Metropolitan | One2car

vinny41 · August 1

35 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I'm looking for and can't find a sensibly priced ORA Good Cat, I don't agree with you.

I did see a ora good cat 500 ultra I think new for B660K on Byd thailand facebook group

DTL2014 · August 1

tried a few ev's recently .. looking at the changan lumin for my villa guests ... i have solar panels in my parking area..

Yellowtail · August 1

26 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I did see a ora good cat 500 ultra I think new for B660K on Byd thailand facebook group

DTL2014 · August 1

also tried the Deepal S07 - great looking car and very comfy...could do with more power. Kia EV5 was a very nice product but i would prefer either Kia ev6 or ev3 awd.. or zeeker

JBChiangRai · August 1

46 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That's too many miles for a 2 year old car. at 36% discount, I think it's too expensive. I prefer the 400 pro, she doesn't need that range.

They seem to be keeping their value as if they were an ICE.

mistral53 · August 1

2 hours ago, DTL2014 said:

also tried the Deepal S07 - great looking car and very comfy...could do with more power. Kia EV5 was a very nice product but i would prefer either Kia ev6 or ev3 awd.. or zeeker

What do you think about the Kia EV5 interior? I sat in one at the BKK car show, and my wife and I agreed that it was very plastic looking and all hard surfaces - it might be a nice car in other respects, but for us it was just totally out of place compared to the Chinese brands.

Bandersnatch · August 2

Interesting documentary about EV’s in Thailand from Singapore’s Channel News Asia (video is 22 minutes)

motdaeng · August 2

On 7/31/2024 at 7:03 PM, motdaeng said:

my guess is that the byd seal 07 will enter the thai market by the end of the year or at the beginning of 2025.

it seems like the interior of the seal 07 will get a significant update. the byd seal 07 should be officially introduced

in china next month, in august!

"BYD Seal 07 to launch on August 8 in both EV and PHEV forms"

https://carnewschina.com/2024/07/31/byd-seal-07-to-launch-on-august-8-in-both-ev-and-phev-forms/

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