Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[vinny41]

1 hour ago, Pib said:

Well, more power to Vinny41 if he can figure out from DLT stats how so many EV registrations occurred for August because when I look at the DLT stats from their webpage I only see above half of the August numbers being stated in the news article above.   

The only numbers for August that Both the nation article and DLT match are

RY3 trucks 233

RY8 three wheeled cycles 39

all the other figures don't match

 

RY1 figures for August were  6,211

 

If all electric vehicles including motorbikes are added DLT report  total comes to 8,804

I have noticed autolife and a number of other media outlets are now using a new acronym

XEV which is combined 

Electric vehicle xEV is the generic name for electromotive vehicles such as a hybrid electric vehicles, plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and fuel-cell electric vehicles

Basically anything that has an electric motor

using DLT stats combined XEV comes to 19,801 for August

Edited September 28 by vinny41
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[Pib]

 

Well, I figured out how they got 17,980.   When looking at the DLT stats for August they used the R.Y.1 category but instead of only reflecting  R.Y.1 BEV Electric (100% electric) they also added-in R.Y.1 "Plug-in/Hybrid EV categories of Gasoline-Electric, Diesel-Electric, Plug-in Gasoline-Electric, and Plug-in Diesel Electric. 

 

See the subtotals below, partial snapshot of the DLT spreadsheet, and how those four above mentioned  PHEV/HEV categories added to the Electric BEV category summed to 17,980.   

 

Basically the article is talking BEV "and Hybrids."  Pretty much mixing apples & oranges in terms of comparing January-July BEV numbers which only reflected BEV numbers with August BEV+Hybrid numbers.  

 

 

 

Partial quote from article:

 

 

 

Subtotals of DLT data "R.Y.1" category used to get 17,980

Electric BEV :    6,211

Gasoline-Electric:  10,915

Diesel-Electric:  2

Plug-in Gasoline-Electric: 845

Plug-in Diesel-Electric 7

------------------------------------------------

Total of Above :  17,980

 

 

 

 

[CLW]

On 9/26/2024 at 8:59 AM, Bandersnatch said:

GEELY RIDDARA RD6. Electric pickup
 

 

(Google Translated)

 

Now accepting reservations ! Estimated low price for a million. GEELY RIDDARA RD6. Electric pickup 100%. Launch in Thailand this October 2024 LifeStyle Pick-up

📍Special interest 0.99%*
📍Free Home Charger with installation*

Book a free today no charge

See details and reserve your rights at https://th.riddara.com/

The low price of a million ! GEELY RIDDARA RD6, electric pickup 100%.
 

Launch in Thailand this October 2024 LifeStyle Pick-up Motor 272 horsepower. Rear wheel drive. Battery 100 kWh. Distance 600 km. And the 4WD twin motor 428 horsepower 0-100 km/h in 4.5 seconds.

Watch the test drive clip here:

 

 

 

RIDDARA RD6, 100% electric pickup truck in GEELY association. Preparing to debut officially in Thailand this October 2024 ready to attend Motor Expo 2024 at GEELY – RIDDARA – ZEEKR booth in the same association.

Dimension, the size of the tank.

- length 5,260 millimetres
- width 1,900 millimeters.
- 1,865 millimeters high.
- Wheelbase 3,120 mm
- Minimum distance to ground Clearance 221 millimeters
- Body weight 2,065 – 2,090 kg.
- Front Frunk Storage 70L
- Supports a maximum load weight of 775 kg
- Supports a maximum towing weight of 2,500 kg.

The size of a rear bumper

- Length x Width x Depth : 1,525 x 1,450 x 540 mm
- Capacity 1,200 Liters.

 

Comparison with the size of the pickup truck sold in Thailand.

- GEELY RIDDARA RD6 : 5,260 x 1,900 x 1,865 มม. | ฐานล้อ 3,120 มม.
- Isuzu D-Max : 5,280 x 1,870 x 1,810 mm. | Wheel Base 3,125 mm
- Hilux Revo : 5,265 x 1,800 x 1,690 mm. | Wheel Base 3,085 mm
- Hilux Champ : 5,300 x 1,785 x 1,735 mm. | Wheel Base 3,085 mm
- Mitsubishi Triton : 5,320 x 1,865 x 1,795 มม. | ฐานล้อ 3,130 มม.
- Nissan Navara : 5,260 x 1,875 x 1,840 mm. | Wheel Base 3,150 mm
- Mazda BT-50 : 5,280 x 1,870 x 1,785 mm. | Wheel Base 3,125 mm
- MG Extender : 5,365 x 1,900 x 1,850 mm. | Wheel Base 3,155 mm
- BYD SHARK : 5,457 x 1,917 x 1,925 mm. | Wheel Base 3,260 mm
- Ford Ranger : 5,370 x 1,918 x 1,884 mm | wheel base 3,270 mm
- GWM Poer SAHAR : 5,445 x 1,991 x 1,924 mm. | Wheel Base 3,350 mm

Powerful Powertrain (referring to specs at China)

Standard Range

Electric motor. Maximum power 272 horsepower. Maximum torque 384 newton meters. Rear-Wheel Drive. Battery 63 kWh. Distance 410 km. (CLTC)

 

Long Range

Electric motor. Maximum power 272 horsepower. Maximum torque 384 newton meters. Rear-Wheel Drive. Battery 86 kWh. Distance 500 km. (NEDC)

Super Long Range

Electric motor. Maximum power 272 horsepower. Maximum torque 384 newton meters. Rear-Wheel Drive. Battery 100 kWh

- Acceleration 0-100 km/h in 6.0 seconds.
- Top Speed top speed 185 km/h
- Running a distance of 600 km. (NEDC)

Horizon 4WD

 

Dual electric motors 2 units. Maximum power 428 horsepower. Maximum torque 594 newton meters. 4-wheel drive. All-Wheel Drive. Battery 86 kWh. Distance 520 km. (CLTC)

- Acceleration of 0-100 km/h in 4.5 seconds.
- Top Speed top speed 190 km/h

Charging. Charging the power.

Charger Type 2 / CCS Combo

- AC alternator current supports up to 11 kW
- Direct current DC Fast Charging. Support up to 120 kW
- Electric current distribution system to external devices and other electric cars V2V up to 21 kW

 

RIDDARA RD6, 100% electric pick-up in GEELY association. Preparing to debut officially in Thailand. This October, 2024 LifeStyle Pick-up. Low price for a million! Ready to join Motor Expo 2024 at GEELY – RIDDARA – ZEEKR booth in the same association.

 

https://autolifethailand.tv/geely-riddara-radar-rd6-ev-bev-coming-thailand/
 

 

Nice car but the first thing I would do is to remove that ridiculous front grille with "Riddara" to the one in the lower picture with a straight grille and also no "Radar" letters on the hood

[CLW]

Today on Motorway 9

Test drive of Avatar 11 EV

 

[marino28]

New discounts for gwm cars

[mistral53]

The cheap Chinese junk breaks all the time.........here we have proof, never buy Chinese!

 

from a FB post: (and m/c translated)

 

'5 years 250,000 km The air compressor is broken. That means the cooling system of the battery and the motor have stopped working as well. But I think it dropped the QC because the air conditioner is burned and it doesn't turn off itself. I can still drive from Rayong to Bangkok to fix it.
Today, I came to test a new computer air conditioner from Rayong-Phutab Berk-Phitsanulok. It seems like I got a new car because 5 years ago, if I charge DC, the cooling system battery would work all the time until after charging it, it would continue to work for a while. But changing the computer air conditioner while charging DC, there will be a period of cooling break. It means that the heat management system is much better. It must be a recipe from the shop too. 🤣
The reason why the air compressor is broken, I think it's because it's very heavy use, because it's also used as an office car. 3-5 people use it. Always turn the air on until the needle. Going out, never turn it off. I think it makes sense to break down. 😂'

 

In comparison - our Mercedes PHEV also used an electric AC compressor, did make it to the 35,000 (!) km mark in 3 years and broke.....well, at least it was covered under warranty. German quality beats Chinese junk anytime....... ooohhhh wait, what was that again?

 

 

(Picture attached to the FB post, so it was probably this car)

[JBChiangRai]

1 hour ago, mistral53 said:

The cheap Chinese junk breaks all the time.........here we have proof, never buy Chinese!

 

from a FB post: (and m/c translated)

 

'5 years 250,000 km The air compressor is broken. That means the cooling system of the battery and the motor have stopped working as well. But I think it dropped the QC because the air conditioner is burned and it doesn't turn off itself. I can still drive from Rayong to Bangkok to fix it.
Today, I came to test a new computer air conditioner from Rayong-Phutab Berk-Phitsanulok. It seems like I got a new car because 5 years ago, if I charge DC, the cooling system battery would work all the time until after charging it, it would continue to work for a while. But changing the computer air conditioner while charging DC, there will be a period of cooling break. It means that the heat management system is much better. It must be a recipe from the shop too. 🤣
The reason why the air compressor is broken, I think it's because it's very heavy use, because it's also used as an office car. 3-5 people use it. Always turn the air on until the needle. Going out, never turn it off. I think it makes sense to break down. 😂'

 

In comparison - our Mercedes PHEV also used an electric AC compressor, did make it to the 35,000 (!) km mark in 3 years and broke.....well, at least it was covered under warranty. German quality beats Chinese junk anytime....... ooohhhh wait, what was that again?

 

 

(Picture attached to the FB post, so it was probably this car)

How horrible, a quarter of million km before something breaks. cheap Chinese junk.

[Gweiloman]

On 10/4/2024 at 9:19 AM, mistral53 said:

The cheap Chinese junk breaks all the time.........here we have proof, never buy Chinese!

 

from a FB post: (and m/c translated)

 

'5 years 250,000 km The air compressor is broken. That means the cooling system of the battery and the motor have stopped working as well. But I think it dropped the QC because the air conditioner is burned and it doesn't turn off itself. I can still drive from Rayong to Bangkok to fix it.
Today, I came to test a new computer air conditioner from Rayong-Phutab Berk-Phitsanulok. It seems like I got a new car because 5 years ago, if I charge DC, the cooling system battery would work all the time until after charging it, it would continue to work for a while. But changing the computer air conditioner while charging DC, there will be a period of cooling break. It means that the heat management system is much better. It must be a recipe from the shop too. 🤣
The reason why the air compressor is broken, I think it's because it's very heavy use, because it's also used as an office car. 3-5 people use it. Always turn the air on until the needle. Going out, never turn it off. I think it makes sense to break down. 😂'

 

In comparison - our Mercedes PHEV also used an electric AC compressor, did make it to the 35,000 (!) km mark in 3 years and broke.....well, at least it was covered under warranty. German quality beats Chinese junk anytime....... ooohhhh wait, what was that again?

 

 

(Picture attached to the FB post, so it was probably this car)

Nice sarcasm 😁

[KhunLA]

On 10/4/2024 at 9:19 AM, mistral53 said:

Only because of the Brit Dynamics Engineering team 👍

 

Edited October 5 by KhunLA

[JBChiangRai]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Only because of the Brit Dynamics Engineering team 👍

 

Inscrutable indeed

 

cue: @transam

[mistral53]

1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:

Nice sarcasm 😁

Except, judging from some of the reactions, not everybody caught onto it.........

[Bandersnatch]

Looks like rainy season might be nearly over. 

 

Not even lunchtime and 2 EVs, Electric motorbike and house batteries fully charged.

 

and Alexander wept, for there were no more batteries to charge and he was going to waste all that afternoon's solar production

 

 

[Gweiloman]

6 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

Looks like rainy season might be nearly over. 

 

Not even lunchtime and 2 EVs, Electric motorbike and house batteries fully charged.

 

and Alexander wept, for there were no more batteries to charge and he was going to waste all that afternoon's solar production

 

 

Run all the aircons, just for fun.

[Yodarapper]

Should I buy electric or hybrid? Will want to sell when I leave Thailand in a few years.

[SAFETY FIRST]

11 minutes ago, Yodarapper said:

Should I buy electric or hybrid? Will want to sell when I leave Thailand in a few years.

Why not open a new thread, we need more wrangle. 🤓

 

Most here are PRO EV, you're not going to get an accurate answer. 

 

I'm a PRO hybrid guy. 

 

Plug in or full hybrid should be a question to ask. 

 

 

 

Edited October 6 by SAFETY FIRST

[HighPriority]

6 minutes ago, Yodarapper said:

Should I buy electric or hybrid? Will want to sell when I leave Thailand in a few years.

Mate, buy what YOU like.

What is you housing situation ?

Do you have solar ?

What type of car do you need ?

What sort of driving do you do ?

How do you cope with tech ?

 

As for the comment above, yeah why would anyone listen to the opinions of people who have driven both types of vehicle… 🙄

 

[newnative]

     Spouse and I are buying a plug-in hybrid.  It gets us into electric in a bigger way than a regular hybrid but we still have a gas engine so we are not dependent on finding an electric charging station on trips.  We think for most of our driving we will just be using electric and we will have a home charger.  I would buy what works best for your needs.

[motdaeng]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Most here are PRO EV, you're not going to get an accurate answer. 

 

who says that? mr. safety first, someone who doesn’t own an ev and has only limited knowledge about them? shame on you!

 

i would say the exact opposite. all ev owners on this forum provide excellent, first-hand experience, advice, and answers.

just because you don’t like the answers doesn’t mean they’re not accurate. agian, shame on you!

 

every ev owner on this forum will tell you: ev's aren’t for everyone, ev's won’t save the climate, ev's have a lot of potential to improve

along with even better infrastructure, and yes, ev's have also some disadvantages too ...

 

it’s only the ev haters who pretend to know everything about ev's, even though most have never driven or owned one. think about that!

 

 

 

Edited October 6 by motdaeng
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[UWEB]

1 hour ago, Yodarapper said:

Should I buy electric or hybrid? Will want to sell when I leave Thailand in a few years.

It's Buyer Market, why not consider to buy a second Hand one if you need a Car for some years only.

[motdaeng]

1 hour ago, Yodarapper said:

Should I buy electric or hybrid? Will want to sell when I leave Thailand in a few years.

 

if you're concerned about the resale value in just a few years, it's better to choose a hybrid car... (i'm not belong to the ev haters! )

Edited October 6 by motdaeng

[SAFETY FIRST]

11 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

who says that? mr. safety first, someone who doesn’t own an ev and has only limited knowledge about them? shame on you!

 

i would say the exact opposite. all ev owners on this forum provide excellent, first-hand experience, advice, and answers.

just because you don’t like the answers doesn’t mean they’re not accurate. agian, shame on you!

 

every ev owner on this forum will tell you: ev's aren’t for everyone, ev's won’t save the climate, ev's have a lot of potential to improve

along with even better infrastructure, and yes, ev's have also some disadvantages too ...

 

it’s only the ev haters who pretend to know everything about ev's, even though most have never driven or owned one. think about that!

 

 

 

I love the EV threads, better than the political and religious rubbish on AN Forum's, the arguments are just as hostile, you EV people are so cranky.

 

Have a nice day Mr Ant 🐜

 

😂

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Why not open a new thread, we need more wrangle. 🤓

 

He already did !

 

From what I have read he has been here around 3 years already renting an MG ZS, was interested in a Chevy Captiva and now looking at the BYD Sealion.

 

For someone who is looking to leave Thailand in a few years then a second hand ( EV, HEV or PHEV ) can be found or as mentioned in the attached topic great bargains on the MG ZS EV right now.

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I love the EV threads, better than the political and religious rubbish on AN Forum's, the arguments are just as hostile, you EV people are so cranky.

 

Have a nice day Mr Ant 🐜

 

😂

I wouldn’t say that EV guys are cranky but they have been trolled pretty hard on this thread, thankfully the two main losers doing most of the trolling have ( been ) moved on so things should be more friendly now ….. either that or EV posters have given up answering the same old questions ?

[Pib]

1 hour ago, Yodarapper said:

Should I buy electric or hybrid? Will want to sell when I leave Thailand in a few years.

I'm assuming you are concerned about being able to "quickly" sell the vehicle in a few years.   Well, the "sales" market share of used vehicles in a few years will still be predominately ICEV/Hybrid.  So, the number of potential buyers would be higher than potential EV buyers.   

 

But just because there will surely be a larger number of ICEV/hybrid potential buyers doesn't mean you will be able to sell your used vehicle faster as "pricing" and desirably of your model are probably the two biggest factors in how fast a used vehicles sells.

 

Now for me, I bought a new BYD Atto EV almost one year ago...still perfectly happy.   I  also still have my 2009 Toyota Fortuner ICEV (which I bought new years ago) as my 2nd vehicle.  I'm happy with my EV vehicle....and I will probably never buy another ICEV/Hybrid while I live in Thailand which will hopefully be the rest of my life as its been for over a decade and half now.   I charge my EV right at home with a wall charger....I save around 78% in fuel costs compared to my Fortuner....and the charging network in Thailand is good for long trips.   Now if I was living in the U.S. I would probably buy a hybrid because of a limited choice in EVs (U.S. EV sales is ruled by Tesla and also protecting its ICEV/hybrid manufacturers from Chinese EV manufacturers)   and the charging network for long trips in many parts of the U.S. is inadequate.  

 

Don't be afraid of buying an EV especially if you can charge right at your home using a wall charger.....it makes keeping your EV charged as easy as keeping your smartphone charged.   And with the range of EV nowdays which is around 400Km and more, the charging network in Thailand is good in many areas and along major highways for those l....o.....n.....g trips with a radius of say 200Km or more.

 

Edited October 6 by Pib

[mistral53]

1 hour ago, Yodarapper said:

Should I buy electric or hybrid? Will want to sell when I leave Thailand in a few years.

You most certainly don't want to buy a hybrid - that is just a silly marketing gimmick.

 

EV's are not for everyone, either - I do not see the likes of my wife being able to get the benefits of the technology.......yet. (This observation is confirmed by Chinese vehicle manufacturers that offer EREVs and PHEV's for almost all EV models they make for the Chinese market)

 

PHEV is the best compromise for her - 100% electric around town form our solar, stress free trips when leaving town, driving it as an ICE powered vehicle.

 

Here in Thailand, choices are still limited - so depending on vehicle configuration, the BYD Sealion 6 and the GWM Haval 6 PHEV are great offerings, the latter with a colossal 30kWh battery for close to 200 km of pure EV travel.

[motdaeng]

28 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I wouldn’t say that EV guys are cranky but they have been trolled pretty hard on this thread, thankfully the two main losers doing most of the trolling have ( been ) moved on so things should be more friendly now ….. either that or EV posters have given up answering the same old questions ?

thank you very much, you explained the situation very well.

 

almost every week, a new ev hater shows up in this thread with ridiculous claims and insults aimed at ev owners.  
in contrast, many forum members are open-minded and ask questions about electric vehicles. they receive patient and

detailed answers. unfortunately, some of these members are driven away by the haters and have decided to avoid

the topic of electric cars in this forum ...

 

ev owners don't judge or insult others for buying an ice vehicle, but the reverse has become the norm ... 

[Yodarapper]

Thanks everyone! Lots of useful information! I don’t want to look at second hand as I want to finance. 
thanks for the recommendation of the mg ZS ev - I can’t find it at that price?

1. Questions about this model - someone said it’s going to be phased out, is this bad? Is there already a new model?

2. Would the Atto3 be a better option?

3. We also looked at the M6 which is a full electric mpv and that looked nice too!

4. Has anyone seen or read anything about the sealio ? It was real nice to drive and hybrid but can only do 90km on ev.

[vinny41]

34 minutes ago, Yodarapper said:

Thanks everyone! Lots of useful information! I don’t want to look at second hand as I want to finance. 
thanks for the recommendation of the mg ZS ev - I can’t find it at that price?

1. Questions about this model - someone said it’s going to be phased out, is this bad? Is there already a new model?

2. Would the Atto3 be a better option?

3. We also looked at the M6 which is a full electric mpv and that looked nice too!

4. Has anyone seen or read anything about the sealio ? It was real nice to drive and hybrid but can only do 90km on ev.

Plenty of dealers offering MG ZS EV for B599K in the MG ZS EV facebook group pages

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2572340166118367

Replacement model not available in Thailand yet expected either December Motor show or March April Motor show expect it will be more expensive that current model , new model will be based on MG4 platform and unlikely to offer modular batteries so it nore than likely to be a similar single battery such as MG4

When MG ZS EV 2nd generation was launched in March 2022 the launch price was B1,189,000 so at B599,000 once they gone thats it until new model becomes available

Major difference between ZS EV and atto3 is zs ev battery casing is metal atto 3 is plastic

if you leaning towards atto 3 suggest you read the https://www.facebook.com/groups/bydthailand

Plenty of reports from owners that were required to claim on their insurance as rats had eaten through the battery casing and as a result water ingress may have occured end result replacement battery required

there was news that BYD were to release a upgraded blade battery blade gen 2 battery which is expected to be 30% cheaper and provide a range of 1,000 km and is safer 

when this battery will be released and which models it will be released for is anyone guess as no further annoucments from Byd

I think you mentioned that your were planning to pay a down payment of B200K on a car that costs B599 that is a 33.5% down payment and if you currently paying B18k a month on rental you could own the car completely within 2 years if you get the dealer to offer 0% percent

Edited October 6 by vinny41
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[Pib]

25 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

 

Major difference between ZS EV and atto3 is zs ev battery casing is metal atto 3 is plastic

if you leaning towards atto 3 suggest you read the https://www.facebook.com/groups/bydthailand

Plenty of reports from owners that were required to claim on their insurance as rats had eaten through the battery casing and as a result water ingress may have occured end result replacement battery required

 

Actually for the Atto and Dolphin the bottom half battery pack pointing towards the road surface is metal and the upper half is plastic.   The free Rat Guard modification consisting of metals shields on the battery front and anti-critters rubber coating around all the  plastic cover sides takes about an hour to install at a BYD dealership.

 

 

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, Pib said:

Actually for the Atto and Dolphin the bottom half battery pack pointing towards the road surface is metal and the upper half is plastic.   The free Rat Guard modification consisting of metals shields on the battery front and anti-critters rubber coating around all the  plastic cover sides takes about an hour to install at a BYD dealership.

Do you have to ask for the Rat Guard, or do they install without the need to ask.  Have to tell my daughter to take a peek under the car.  She's only had it a couple months.