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Electric Vehicles in Thailand

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1 hour ago, Pib said:

And something a person should think about before buying one of these new models. This really applies to BEV, PHEV, HEV, etc.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSCGA6ajP/ 

She makes a lot of good points. "Involution" is talked about a lot and something the Central Government wants to eliminate. But even when export incentives removed, the domestic market is down so much that most manufacturers have little choice than to try to export to keep manufacturing scale going.

If your R&D per model is 1BN, spread across 100K cars, thats 10K per car. If you can sell ovenly 25K cars, those R&D costs balloon by 4x. Volume and scale is everything in manufacturing.

With involution, this can lead to huge distortions. I want my next car to be supported for its full lifecycle.

This is, btw, one of the reasons the Tesla brand is so strong - there is trust that the brand will both survive and also provide long term support for the cars it sells.

Even BYD is - according to my Thai GF - developing a reputation amongst Thais that they can't always rely on support when there is a problem.

The numbers of Chinese manufacturers will be thinned - by a lot - over the coming years. Will it be orderly or disorderly and what does that mean for consumers making buying decisions today?

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    There's no point arguing with these anti-EV people, even when you educate them over their mistakes, they just repeat their baseless opinions somewhere else.  Frankly, it's tiresome.   I can'

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    Your assumption Thailand will follow, is I believe, false.   Two completely separate markets with separate circumstances.   What kickstarted the EV revolution here was BYD & GW

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4 hours ago, Pib said:

As we've seen on the websites of car250.com and autolifethailand.tv where new vehicle "model" releases are being announced at an extremely rapid pace, primarily for the China market, below video may explain the "real reason" behind the numerous, numerous, many, many new models always being announced. And something a person should think about before buying one of these new models. This really applies to BEV, PHEV, HEV, etc.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSCGA6ajP/ 

very interesting video, and totally makes sense to me, there are just too many new models.

I would not recommend any of those new brands and models. I think the safe ones are BYD, MG, Tesla, BMW, MB and maybe GWM in Thailand. let's see how Riddara does, I am seeing dozens and dozens of Riddara pickups here in the south, im surprise to see so many, just last week I saw 10 at once in a car modification shop, I think to install Carryboy covers.

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today I sat inside the MG Urban, I was so impressed, so nice the space and more comfortable than Atto 3, it puts the BYD on shame.

the back is great and spacious, the driver seat also great with real proper seats, really nice and firm on the MG urban.

The Atto3 seats are for a very slender person, not for someone with a large back.

The inside of the MG Urban looks really nice too.

The door didn't want to close easily, I had to hit it much harder than usual, maybe a good thing with the strong rubber seals?

Overall very spacious and decent range!

39 minutes ago, matchar said:

Yes I think double parking is definitely not a given with EVs. Apparently the Geely EX2 doesn't let you lock the car in towing mode.

Double parking is a thing common in Thailand. You know how people loves shopping malls. Central not far from me, on Saturdays need to park on the road opposite side. Lol.

4 hours ago, PakWhan said:

Even BYD is - according to my Thai GF - developing a reputation amongst Thais that they can't always rely on support when there is a problem.

From my experience yes, byd technical service is totally 💩

And what's up with their sim card issue? Mine ended almost 2 years ago, and since then BYD dont have solution. Can install my own sim but loose access to the byd mobile app which i needed to use. So customer need to choose between internet or Mobile app. Ridiculous !!!

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Speaking of all the various models below is DLT new "registrations" info for selected brands/models 1 January thru 30 June 2026.

See how your current or desired model is fairing sales-wise as registrations represent a completed buy / issue of a blue ownership book. The snapshots below are mostly for those brands which have a good range of EV model offerings.

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@brfsa2

Your new IM5 is now on the scoreboard. Almost 300 now driving on the roads of Thailand with most still proudly displaying red tags. Will be interesting to see what the coming months bring....it should sell well.

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12 hours ago, Pib said:

@brfsa2

Your new IM5 is now on the scoreboard. Almost 300 now driving on the roads of Thailand with most still proudly displaying red tags. Will be interesting to see what the coming months bring....it should sell well.

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yeah I noticed it sold good last month. It's a beautiful car.

Been driving it a lot since last few days now that I have the Window films installed.

Went for Ocean Clear Ceramic, they dont have 3M Crystaline anymore in Thailand it seems. it was 17,000 baht for the whole car without sunroof.

Power: Very strong, and very easy to overtake, can go from 100-130kmh in a second. The motor sounds great above 120, that sound is very unique and distinct, almost addictive, and dangerous, you need to drive fast to hear it. The cabin is super silent, just that those 275 P-Zero tires are so loud, easy to fix with the next set of tires after 50,000 km.

Anyways, The car driving dynamics is very refined, everything is super smooth, nothing has jerkiness, the auto-break, the reverse and slow rolling is super smooth, very gradual! the reverse is how it should be, very slow start, really well done MG! This is the most refined car I've ever driven, feels like a MB S-Class.

This is mostly because of the Silicon Carbide (SiC) Inverter linearity and the Intelligent Comfort Stop (ICS) on this car.

I like how the IM5 let me set WLTP as the range calculator, and from my experience it's 100% accurate on me. I did a bit longer 160km drive yesterday and my WLTP range was reduced by 148km. I was going 90-110km/h mostly, just enjoying the sunny day.

I estimate my 15-85% range to be around 500km-550km. that will allow me to charge more often at 10-15A at home.

Charging: Game changer! I could sustain peak 180kW (176kW after losses) from low Soc of 20% all the way to 85% before I disconnected, impressive!

The whole session took less than 20 minutes. didn't setup carscanner with OBD2 yet, will do today.

What came with the car:

  • (32A) 7kW wall charger

  • (15A) 3kW portable charge (you can select 6,10,13,15A)

  • V2L for 6.6kW

  • 1 Key fob

  • 1 RFID Key car

  • 20,000 baht voucher, I used for the Window film.

The app allows multiple phones and even you can have your phone unlock and start the car, so I can basically drive the car with just my phone. but it's slow and it depends on Bluetooth, I will try for a while this but of course will carry the RFID card in case.

Some remarks:

The only thing I'm allowed to change in the car is the tires, nothing else, even the 12v battery I cant change, besides the 12v battery is lithium type, so it last 10 years.

forgot to add: the Rear Camera and side cameras are game changer for night driving. you can active them with a button, forget about the center rear mirror, it's like looking through a crack on the wall, hehe.

The rear camera is at the top of the car and gives you much better view than what mirrors can.

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@brfsa2

But do you like the IM5 or not!? 😄

I wish BYD had a setting allowing the driver to select between using NEDC or WLTP as the WLTP comes real close to what I get real-world in my BYD vehicles. NEDC standard was replaced in 2018 by WLTP but a lot of car manufacturers still use NEDC since it gives much higher range estimate only achievable in laboratory condition. Now even to typically achieve WLTP range a person needs to drive in ECO mode and drive conservatively but at least it's achievable in the real world. I can get WLTP range in my BYD Atto 3 and Sealion 7 AWD. BYD Rever ties to misdirect the reason they don't use WLTP in Thailand on their webpage in the FAQ area...try to blame it on the government when in fact I'm sure BYD could have a setting (just like MG) that shows NEDC or WLTP....but hey, it always easy to blame someone else like the government.

https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/faq

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And your point about the bigger battery / greater range reduces reliance on needing to use a DC charger for longer trips is a good one. The wife and I almost weekly (sometimes twice a week) do Out & About / Site Seeing trips in the 250 to 425Km roundtrip ballpark....but the great majority of the site seeing trips are probably right around 300km. In the SL7 I don't even think about charging while on the trip...but with the Atto3 although I really don't need to (unless I've been traveling at 100-120kmh speed for a long distance during the HOT part of the year) sometimes I will top-up for around 15 minutes while taking a P-break which adds around 25% charge just to make the wife feel confident we have plenty of SOC left to get back home.

Now let's say something negative about MG: they only gives "one" key FOB with the IM5 (maybe other models also)!? They can do better than that as buying an additional FOB is not cheap.

24 minutes ago, Pib said:

But do you like the IM5 or not!? 😄

what's not to like about this car. for me it's perfect, 5 years later will I be bored again? not sure, likely not, I didnt really like the Atto3 from day one, this car I felt in love from day one. for cars it's like this for me, either love or hate. hehehe.

26 minutes ago, Pib said:

Now let's say something negative about MG: they only gives "one" key FOB with the IM5 (maybe other models also)!? They can do better than that as buying an additional FOB is not cheap.

I didnt even ask about that, I figure that 3 ways to start the car is enough, but I will ask. Also I attach an Airtag to both the Key fog and Card, i tend to forget where I put things hehe.

1- Key fog.

2- RFID card

3- Main driver Phone

4- Secondary driver Phone

the app is alright, not amazing, but good enough because I can do the basics on it, like pre-cooling and and setup charge limit and charge schedule. but it seems to need Bluetooth range for some action.

Something Cool: Pre-drive profile, will try tomorrow, but it seems that it will start climate control 10 min before the trip and set the car ready at specific intervals.

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Had another look at the beige IM5 in my local mall, it really is a thing of beauty !!

Exterior and interior equally classy and i love its wide and low look !

The boot space seems quite small though but like the Seal extends a long way into the car. I couldn’t see if there was any underfloor storage as it was full of the salesperson’s stuff .

Is there a frunk ?

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1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Is there a frunk ?

yes, but tiny, can fit the portable charger and the V2L.

Boot space is fine by me, it's a bit more than the Atto3, but feels a lot more useful with that larger flat surface.

I went to NST last week to a car shop from a friend and had them wrap the car with Lubrizol TPU. wife said it's a must, and it is here because the mafia trucks here shed a lot of rocks in the highway.

check out the photos from the car shop that wrap it.

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22 hours ago, Pib said:

Speaking of all the various models below is DLT new "registrations" info for selected brands/models 1 January thru 30 June 2026.

See how your current or desired model is fairing sales-wise as registrations represent a completed buy / issue of a blue ownership book. The snapshots below are mostly for those brands which have a good range of EV model offerings.

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I have asked Claude to order your list in top/mid/bottom tier based on the numbers.
It took a while and there are still a few mistakes.

Thailand BEV & PHEV Registrations — Cumulative H1 2026

Models with same base name merged across trims (2WD/4WD/Plus/Premium/Max/Dynamic/Long Range, etc). ICE and HEV-only models excluded.

Rank

Brand

Model

Type

Cumulative Units

Tier

1

Jaecoo

5

BEV

11.433

Top

2

BYD

Dolphin

BEV

8.696

Top

3

BYD

Atto 3

BEV

7.357

Top

4

MG

S5 EV

BEV

6.341

Top

5

MG

4 Electric

BEV

6.018

Top

6

Deepal

S05

BEV

5.552

Top

7

Chery

V23

BEV

4.634

Top

8

Aion

UT

BEV

4.422

Top

9

Geely

EX2

BEV

4.321

Top

10

Aion

V

BEV

3.508

Top

11

Tesla

Model 3

BEV

3.441

Top

12

BYD

Sealion 6

PHEV

3.361

Top

13

Jaecoo

6

BEV

2.929

Top

14

Tesla

Model Y

BEV

2.477

Top

15

BYD

Sealion 7

BEV

2.291

Top

16

Aion

Y Plus

BEV

2.089

Top

17

Changan

Lumin

BEV

2.057

Top

18

Deepal

S07

PHEV

1.890

Top

19

Geely

EX5

BEV

1.877

Top

20

Zeekr

7X

BEV

1.782

Top

21

Xpeng

G6

BEV

1.431

Top

22

Zeekr

009

BEV

1.421

Top

23

Aion

HYPTEC HT 620

BEV

1.216

Top

24

Xpeng

X9

BEV

1.112

Top

25

BYD

Seal 5

PHEV

1.068

Top

26

MG

IM6

BEV

1.013

Top

27

BYD

Seal

BEV

875

Mid

28

BYD

M6

PHEV

809

Mid

29

Denza

D9

PHEV

760

Mid

30

MG

EP

BEV

699

Mid

31

BYD

Atto 2

BEV

681

Mid

32

Jaecoo

7

PHEV

658

Mid

33

Aion

ES

BEV

577

Mid

34

Riddara

RD6

BEV

567

Mid

35

Omoda

C5

BEV

439

Mid

36

BYD

Atto 1

BEV

431

Mid

37

Avatr

11

BEV

344

Mid

38

MG

IM5

BEV

289

Mid

39

Avatr

07

BEV

275

Mid

40

Deepal

L07

PHEV

272

Mid

41

Neta

V-II

BEV

254

Mid

42

Riddara

Horizon

BEV

201

Mid

43

Leapmotor

B10

BEV

194

Bottom

44

BYD

Sealion 5

PHEV

190

Bottom

45

GWM

H6 Plug-in Hybrid

PHEV

178

Bottom

46

GWM

Wey G9 Plug-in Hybrid

PHEV

174

Bottom

47

MG

ZS EV

BEV

118

Bottom

48

BYD

T3

BEV

113

Bottom

49

BYD

Seal 6

BEV

110

Bottom

50

MG

HS PHEV

PHEV

102

Bottom

51

Chery

Tiggo8 PHEV

PHEV

96

Bottom

52

Leapmotor

C10 EV

BEV

89

Bottom

53

BYD

E6

BEV

87

Bottom

54

GWM

Ora 5

BEV

82

Bottom

55

Deepal

E07

BEV

45

Bottom

56

MG

Cyberster

BEV

39

Bottom

57

Deepal

Hunter K50

PHEV

14

Bottom

58

Neta

X

BEV

12

Bottom

59

Tesla

Model X

BEV

1

Bottom


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The biggest surprise to me is that Leapmotor haven't sold more B10's.

It's nicely styled, packaged, priced and reviewed and is doing well in other markets.

As well, Leapmotor are amongst the fastest growing auto brands in the world.

So with my prediction fingers well and truly burnt, my next prediction is that the Xpeng Mona L03 will be a big hit in Thailand when it arrives, probably in Q4 2026.

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finally got the OBD2 dongle connected, IM5 gives up a lot of useful data, not the full set of sensors as in the Atto3 and Dolphin, however good enough.

what's missing: BMS data, such as the individual Cell voltages, Cell temperature.

I will try next while Fast Charging at Shell 180kW.

Battery voltage stays mostly 750v - 850v depending on SOC.

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4 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

BYD made the Sealion 7 an export only model now. Seems to be doing great in Europe and in Thailand as well.

https://carnewschina.com/2026/07/07/over-215000-sold-byd-sealion-7-quietly-exits-chinese-domestic-market-for-export-focus/

Interesting. The BEV version is no longer a big hit in the China domestic market (but the PHEV version is) so it gets designated as an export model only where sales are still good.

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Something cool on the IM5: you can choose between DFRE, WLTP and NDEC.

where DFRE gives me the most accurate range for me.

DFRE is not a standard, so searching on google gives up ZERO results 🤦

Then Gemini came to the rescue:


DFRE stands for Dynamic Range (specifically, Dynamic Forecast Remaining Endurance or Dynamic Range Estimation).

While WLTP and NEDC calculate your battery range using standardized laboratory test cycles, DFRE provides a real-time, adaptive estimate. It calculates your remaining distance by factoring in:

  • Driving Style: Your recent acceleration and speed patterns.

  • Auxiliary Loads: Energy consumed by climate control, seat heating, and electronics.

  • Environmental Conditions: External temperature and terrain profile.

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4 minutes ago, Pib said:

Interesting. The BEV version is no longer a big hit in the China domestic market (but the PHEV version is) so it gets designated as an export model only where sales are still good.

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I asked Gemini Opinion, quite interesting the reasons why:

The quiet withdrawal of the BYD Sealion 7 (Sealion 07 EV) from China’s domestic market to focus entirely on global exports represents a highly pragmatic, data-driven optimization of factory capacity and platform lifecycles. From an engineering and macroeconomic perspective, the strategy highlights several key dynamics:

1. Platform Lifecycles and Hardware Reallocation

The Sealion 7 utilizes BYD’s e-Platform 3.0 Evo with an integrated Cell-to-Body (CTB) layout and first-generation lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) Blade batteries. In the hyper-accelerated Chinese EV ecosystem, this hardware configuration is already entering its sunset phase domestically as BYD transitions to next-generation architectures (such as the incoming Sealion 08 platform).

Instead of re-tooling Chinese assembly lines prematurely or sustaining low-volume production for a saturated market, BYD is keeping the lines running to supply international markets. For export regions where the local infrastructure, consumer expectations, and regulatory cycles move at a slower pace, the e-Platform 3.0 Evo remains highly competitive and technologically advanced.

2. Exploiting Massive Pricing Arbitrage

The financial incentive for this pivot is stark. As the article highlights, a vehicle competing in the brutal 200,000 RMB (~920,000 THB) segment inside China can command anywhere from $58,900 to $73,600 USD (~2.1 to 2.7 million THB) in European and Western markets.

By redirecting manufacturing capacity away from China—where the domestic pure EV trim was tracking at an unsustainable 100 to 300 registrations per month due to fierce internal competition—BYD captures massive margin premiums overseas. This international margin easily subsidizes shipping logistics and tariffs while maximizing the return on investment (ROI) for their tooling and R&D on the older platform.

3. Divergent Market Demands: BEV vs. PHEV

Domestically, Chinese consumer demand has rapidly shifted toward Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) and Extended-Range EV (EREV) powertrains to mitigate cold-weather range degradation and long-distance charging bottlenecks. Models like the hybrid Sealion 06 are generating massive volume locally, squeezing pure Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs) like the Sealion 07 into a narrow niche.

Conversely, export markets—especially right-hand-drive (RHD) countries like Australia, Thailand, and the UK—still show strong, resilient appetite for mid-size pure electric SUVs. The RHD export volume alone (e.g., Australia logging 4,730 units in June 2026) completely justifies dedicated production runs.

Final Takeaway

This is not a failure of the Sealion 7; it is a masterclass in global supply chain management. BYD is treating the global automotive landscape as a multi-tiered ecosystem, ensuring that older manufacturing assets and cell-to-body architectures are fully amortized abroad at premium margins while domestic factories clear space for the next generation of power electronics and platform integration.

I think everyone knows the saying of" "an apple a day keeps the doctor away"....but in the China vehicle manufacturing arena it goes something like this instead: "a new model a day keeps our stock price healthy."

18 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

finally got the OBD2 dongle connected, IM5 gives up a lot of useful data, not the full set of sensors as in the Atto3 and Dolphin, however good enough.

what's missing: BMS data, such as the individual Cell voltages, Cell temperature.

I will try next while Fast Charging at Shell 180kW.

Battery voltage stays mostly 750v - 850v depending on SOC.

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After OTA version 3.2.0 installed on my new BYD Sealion 7 last week I checked to see if maybe I could now read the OBD2 data, but no...still can not read any data other than just a very few basic things that are pretty much useless. So, I guess the OBD2 data is still encrypted "or" so proprietary my OBD dongle and CarScannerPro app can't figure it out.

But according to CarScanner it only supports SL7 OBD2 data for the SL7 EU version dated before a Oct 2024 update....I expect BYD encrypted the data sometimes after Oct 2024. And I don't expect them to un-encrypt it unless forced to....I think in the EU they got regulations requiring vehicle manufacturers to make OBD data more accessible by the common man versus needing proprietary equipment/software only available to a dealership.

Thailand is not too customer rights focused (regardless of what the govt says) so I doubt the Thai govt would ever force vehicle manufacturers to have "open" OBD data where a person with even a cheap OBD dongle and software could ready the data. Instead, the govt leaves it up to the vehicle manufacturer.

I wish I could see more OBD2 data on my SL7. Now for my Atto 3 I can see tons of data...like battery cell temperature, voltage, and just a lot of stuff related to other system on the car.....it's info overload. I sure hope when (if) BYD releases another OTA for my Atto that they don't encrypt the OBD data.

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44 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

I asked Gemini Opinion, quite interesting the reasons why:

The quiet withdrawal of the BYD Sealion 7 (Sealion 07 EV) from China’s domestic market to focus entirely on global exports represents a highly pragmatic, data-driven optimization of factory capacity and platform lifecycles. From an engineering and macroeconomic perspective, the strategy highlights several key dynamics:

1. Platform Lifecycles and Hardware Reallocation

The Sealion 7 utilizes BYD’s e-Platform 3.0 Evo with an integrated Cell-to-Body (CTB) layout and first-generation lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) Blade batteries. In the hyper-accelerated Chinese EV ecosystem, this hardware configuration is already entering its sunset phase domestically as BYD transitions to next-generation architectures (such as the incoming Sealion 08 platform).

Instead of re-tooling Chinese assembly lines prematurely or sustaining low-volume production for a saturated market, BYD is keeping the lines running to supply international markets. For export regions where the local infrastructure, consumer expectations, and regulatory cycles move at a slower pace, the e-Platform 3.0 Evo remains highly competitive and technologically advanced.

2. Exploiting Massive Pricing Arbitrage

The financial incentive for this pivot is stark. As the article highlights, a vehicle competing in the brutal 200,000 RMB (~920,000 THB) segment inside China can command anywhere from $58,900 to $73,600 USD (~2.1 to 2.7 million THB) in European and Western markets.

By redirecting manufacturing capacity away from China—where the domestic pure EV trim was tracking at an unsustainable 100 to 300 registrations per month due to fierce internal competition—BYD captures massive margin premiums overseas. This international margin easily subsidizes shipping logistics and tariffs while maximizing the return on investment (ROI) for their tooling and R&D on the older platform.

3. Divergent Market Demands: BEV vs. PHEV

Domestically, Chinese consumer demand has rapidly shifted toward Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV) and Extended-Range EV (EREV) powertrains to mitigate cold-weather range degradation and long-distance charging bottlenecks. Models like the hybrid Sealion 06 are generating massive volume locally, squeezing pure Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs) like the Sealion 07 into a narrow niche.

Conversely, export markets—especially right-hand-drive (RHD) countries like Australia, Thailand, and the UK—still show strong, resilient appetite for mid-size pure electric SUVs. The RHD export volume alone (e.g., Australia logging 4,730 units in June 2026) completely justifies dedicated production runs.

Final Takeaway

This is not a failure of the Sealion 7; it is a masterclass in global supply chain management. BYD is treating the global automotive landscape as a multi-tiered ecosystem, ensuring that older manufacturing assets and cell-to-body architectures are fully amortized abroad at premium margins while domestic factories clear space for the next generation of power electronics and platform integration.


To my eyes, the SL7 has wonderful proportions and an overall beauty that will endure over time. The SL 8 is fugly to me and a step in the wrong direction.

There must have been huge pressure on Tesla to introduce new model ranges but much like VW has done with the Golf, they have done the opposite by iterating the 3 and the Y and removing the S and X.

On the other hand, BYD are introducing new models at a pace the world has never seen before. The question I ask myself is "Just because you can, does that mean you should"?

Tesla are betting that if they can keep their model line-up relevant, their profit per unit times the volume they do will be industry leading. At the end of may, Tesla was near 8% down YOY in China. After a ripper June, they are up close to 4% YOY.

Who'd want to be an automaker CEO?

The problem domestically in China is that the pace of change is hypersonic so it's a bit like going to a casino and betting it all on red.

The domestic drop off in numbers in Chinese SL7 numbers would be scary if you were betting the house on it.

Sure, they could have continued to develop it by introducing 800 Volt architecture and megawatt charging while improving the dynamics by trying to reduce weight. I thought that's what they would do but their spreadsheets are telling them otherwise.

A masterclass of strategy over the last 20 year is when KIA recruited Peter Schreyer from Audi in 2006 and he created a winning and enduring design language that helped to transform the brand. Hyundai/KIA are about number 3 automaker in the world now. Who woulda thought? Now they have Karim Habib from BMW and Infiniti who has shaped their EV design language.

Xpeng with far fewer resources than BYD have recruited Juanma Lopez, formally of Ferrari to design the MONA series. I suspect they will be going the KIA/VW/Tesla route creating a unified design language across a family of vehicles they will iterate over time while defining themselves (much like Tesla) by leading edge tech.

Am I right and will they succeed if I am? Who knows? But it's fascinating to watch it play out in real time.

It's a bit sad to think the SL 7 might not get a V 2.0 but the market is anything but linear right now.

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On 7/7/2026 at 10:41 AM, Andrew Dwyer said:

Had another look at the beige IM5 in my local mall, it really is a thing of beauty !!

Apparently it is called Raphael Beige - a homage to…🤷‍♂️

It is a sweet looking car

For Thailand BYD Atto 3 owners OTA version 1.11.1 is available. I got the notification today/8 July 2026 and did the OTA download/install without any problem....total time to download/install was approx 45 minutes (the great majority of that time was the install time). My previous version was 1.10.1 which installed 30 Jun 2025. So, about a year between OTAs. A few pictures right after the successful install are shown below.

After the OTA install there was then some language pack updates for English and Thai languages which I downloaded/installed without issue. Also updated the E-Manual.

And I checked to ensure I could still read OBD2 data with my OBD2 dongle/CarScanner app and I could.

And now after the update when doing a software version Check instead of waiting & waiting usually after multiple tries for a response to see if you have the latest OTA version installed it now shows the version you have installed before doing the Check and while doing the check the version number is temporarily replaced with a 0 to 100% count-up process which takes about 90 seconds to complete to confirm whether you have the latest version or not. That's an improvement over the old way of clicking the Check icon over & over, many times until you finally got a response.

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7 hours ago, Pib said:

After OTA version 3.2.0 installed on my new BYD Sealion 7 last week I checked to see if maybe I could now read the OBD2 data, but no...still can not read any data other than just a very few basic things that are pretty much useless. So, I guess the OBD2 data is still encrypted "or" so proprietary my OBD dongle and CarScannerPro app can't figure it out.

But according to CarScanner it only supports SL7 OBD2 data for the SL7 EU version dated before a Oct 2024 update....I expect BYD encrypted the data sometimes after Oct 2024. And I don't expect them to un-encrypt it unless forced to....I think in the EU they got regulations requiring vehicle manufacturers to make OBD data more accessible by the common man versus needing proprietary equipment/software only available to a dealership.

Thailand is not too customer rights focused (regardless of what the govt says) so I doubt the Thai govt would ever force vehicle manufacturers to have "open" OBD data where a person with even a cheap OBD dongle and software could ready the data. Instead, the govt leaves it up to the vehicle manufacturer.

I wish I could see more OBD2 data on my SL7. Now for my Atto 3 I can see tons of data...like battery cell temperature, voltage, and just a lot of stuff related to other system on the car.....it's info overload. I sure hope when (if) BYD releases another OTA for my Atto that they don't encrypt the OBD data.

I am not sure if it is due to encrypted data. The ECU's might be different between the 800V EU models and 400V TH/Aus. Did you already send the developer some logging or the list of ECU ids.

You may try the beta version. Maybe it helps. As the developer is Russian/Armenian, you can find the latest 2.1.50 beta apk on this page https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=885383&st=16900.

7 minutes ago, 4myr said:

I am not sure if it is due to encrypted data. The ECU's might be different between the 800V EU models and 400V TH/Aus. Did you already send the developer some logging or the list of ECU ids.

You may try the beta version. Maybe it helps. As the developer is Russian/Armenian, you can find the latest 2.1.50 beta apk on this page https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=885383&st=16900.

Whatever the reason CarScannerPro states the profile file will only work with the "EU" version of the SL7 and only before the 2024.10 update.

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