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Twitter vindicated in their censoring right wing propaganda and banning those that spread harmful disinformation. 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oan-finally-admits-no-widespread-022816382.html


“The right-wing cable network One America News Network on Monday acknowledging that there was “no widespread voter fraud”  in the 2020 presidential election noting that an investigation by state officials into unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud made by ex-President Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani. 
Rudy Giuliani and Sean Hannity who falsely claimed “blatant, clear, obvious” fraud while speaking to Georgia State House Republicans during a Zoom meeting.

Giuliani at one point can be heard saying, “We should try to get this on Newsmax and OANN.”

 

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On 5/7/2022 at 1:12 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

What’s this ‘far left’ nonsense you mention?

You're right, the far left and nonsense go hand in hand.

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34 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're right, the far left and nonsense go hand in hand.

"Nonsense" ....like health care, education, higher minimum wages, taxes on the wealthy, equal rights, women rights, strong military, immigration reform, sensible gun laws and environmental protection. 

 

Of course if one is a right wing media consumer they believe the left are anti American, communist, socialist, baby killers that want to send off the old white guys to their death panel, tax middle class, take away their guns, let murdering drug dealing killer rapists waltz across an open border, let black people move to the suburbs and worst of all...they want to turn your little boy into a girl scout!!

 

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4 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

"Nonsense" ....like health care, education, higher minimum wages, taxes on the wealthy, equal rights, women rights, strong military, immigration reform, sensible gun laws and environmental protection. 

 

You forgot crime and inflation.

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2 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

Can always spot the Fox viewer in the comments. 

Does that mean high rising crime and inflation is fake news? Heck even CNN is reporting that.

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6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Does that mean high rising crime and inflation is fake news? Heck even CNN is reporting that.

Inflation is caused by several things.

1. Trumps $7.8 trillion debt. (Biden cut the deficit by $350 billion so far)

2. Trumps really stupid tariffs that raised the cost of imports.

3. The worldwide pandemic lockdown of the supply chain for 2 years. You have heard of supply and demand, no?

4. Putins war. (gas prices)

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2 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

Inflation is caused by several things.

1. Trumps $7.8 trillion debt. (Biden cut the deficit by $350 billion so far)

2. Trumps really stupid tariffs that raised the cost of imports.

3. The worldwide pandemic lockdown of the supply chain for 2 years. You have heard of supply and demand, no?

4. Putins war. (gas prices)

I really hope you don't believe your own drivel, I suppose crime is also Trump and putin's fault.

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4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I really hope you don't believe your own drivel, I suppose crime is also Trump and putin's fault.

Can you articulate the Biden policy that supposedly increased crime in his first year in office?

 

edit=I just checked 8 of the 10 murder states in 2021 voted for Trump...

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1 minute ago, LarrySR said:

Can you articulate the Biden policy that supposedly increased crime in his first year in office?

 

edit=I just checked 8 of the 10 murder states in 2021 voted for Trump...

I'm leaving before the cops come.

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16 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Good point. Why do conservatives get banned for doubting the 2020 results, when we had 4 years of prominent members of the left doing exactly the same thing? No wonder Musk was annoyed enough to throw down $40 billion to level the playing field.

 

"In 2016, Jean-Pierre said that Trump had stolen the presidential election from Hilary Clinton. She said, "Stolen emails, stolen drone, stolen election..... welcome to the world of #UnPresidented Trump."

 

https://thepostmillennial.com/revealed-bidens-new-press-secretary-made-stolen-election-claims-against-republicans?utm_campaign=64502

What "prominent members of the left" are denying election results?  Any members of Congress or ex-Presidents?  Is a prominent left wing former President soliciting hundreds of millions of dollars in donations to fight a non-existent stolen election?  When has a mob of left wingers stormed the nation's Capital to overturn an election result?

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9 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

You forgot crime and inflation.

Under Trump there were significantly more mass shootings resulting in ten or more fatalities, in spite of the pandemic slowing down the opportunity for such shootings.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

There were many more hate crimes as well.  https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

 

The economy crashing prevented inflation. 

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4 hours ago, heybruce said:

What "prominent members of the left" are denying election results?  Any members of Congress or ex-Presidents?  Is a prominent left wing former President soliciting hundreds of millions of dollars in donations to fight a non-existent stolen election?  When has a mob of left wingers stormed the nation's Capital to overturn an election result?

Both H Clinton and Joe Biden said Trump was an "illegitimate President" ie they denied the result of the 2016 election. You may have forgotten but 4 years was wasted falsely accusing him of cheating in the 2016 election by having colluded with Putin to cause Hillary to lose. Didn't they even try impeaching him for this without evidence? Didn't remember any of them getting banned from Twitter for such anti democracy actions and repeated misinformation. Don't remember any media outlets getting banned from Twitter for repeatedly promoting the disinformation that is the Steele dossier - we now know where that came from.

 

Today we have a rare breath of common sense. 

 

Elon Musk Says He Would Reverse Donald Trump’s Twitter Ban
‘I think that was a mistake because it alienated a large part of the country,’ he says

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-would-reverse-twitters-donald-trump-ban-11652204279

 

And also another low - this time from prominent leftist Lori Lightfoot calling for armed insurrection(and not getting banned from Twitter)

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To my friends in the LGBTQ+ community—the Supreme Court is coming for us next. This moment has to be a call to arms.</p>&mdash; Lori Lightfoot (@LoriLightfoot) <a href="https://twitter.com/LoriLightfoot/status/1523844510735908864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

 

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4 hours ago, heybruce said:

Under Trump there were significantly more mass shootings resulting in ten or more fatalities, in spite of the pandemic slowing down the opportunity for such shootings.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

There were many more hate crimes as well.  https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

 

The economy crashing prevented inflation. 

So, only mass shootings are the sole indicator of crime in your world. Why did you even bother. Why does everyone bring up Trump. biden must answer for himself for why the country is in such bad shape.

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16 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

 

Elon Musk Says He Would Reverse Donald Trump’s Twitter Ban
‘I think that was a mistake because it alienated a large part of the country,’ he says

https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-would-reverse-twitters-donald-trump-ban-11652204279

 

 

OK ...But what about the 'undereducated,' conspiracy nuts, trailer trash, religious crackpots, bigots, homophobes, white supremacists, simpletons & meatheads (Trumps base) that dress in tactical gear, carry pitchforks/baseball bats and believe what Trump says,... then what?

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17 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, only mass shootings are the sole indicator of crime in your world. Why did you even bother. Why does everyone bring up Trump. biden must answer for himself for why the country is in such bad shape.

FBI & DHS crime report says right wing terrorism quadrupled during the Trump administration. A majority of it linked to white supremacists.

Certainly, even you don't want that crowd reading Trumps deranged Tweets?

 

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3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, only mass shootings are the sole indicator of crime in your world. Why did you even bother. Why does everyone bring up Trump. biden must answer for himself for why the country is in such bad shape.

Mass shootings and hate crimes are the kind of crimes that the Federal Government can do something about.  Most other crimes that show up in statistics can only be dealt with at the state or local level. 

 

Are you arguing that Biden should expand federal crime fighting to take care of local affairs? 

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Please can we get back to Twitter and park the political false narratives of why certain people get banned.

 

Twitter bans people for inciting violence, inciting hatred, inciting crimes/harm to others and COVID misinformation.

 

I doubt very much Twitter under Musk will make any significant changes to those ‘banned’ behaviors and I see no sensible argument why Twitter should do so.

 

 

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6 hours ago, LarrySR said:

FBI & DHS crime report says right wing terrorism quadrupled during the Trump administration. A majority of it linked to white supremacists.

Certainly, even you don't want that crowd reading Trumps deranged Tweets?

 

The problem with saying "quadrupled" without also citing the relevant numbers is....... 

 

Going from 2 to 8 would be "quadrupled"............ but "8" would still be an insignificant number, in the scheme of things.

 

So, what numbers are you talking about, when you say "quadrupled?" And are those numbers really large enough to be cause for any greater concern? 

 

Furthermore.......... 

 

The scope and scale of the aforementioned "terrorism" needs to be factored in, also.

 

Personally, I wouldn't call, say, ten acts of graffiti or two acts of vandalism or "cross burning"........... anywhere near as severe as a single "White Supremacists" March or Rally. And without question, they are MILES away from, say, a lynching or a bombing!

 

So, just saying "right-wing terrorism" is not nearly enough. Cuz it takes a whole lot of Sticks-and-Stones.......….. to even come close to equaling one seriously violent act! 

 

Wanna try filling-in some of those cavernous gaps, now? 

 

Cheers! 

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3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Please can we get back to Twitter and park the political false narratives of why certain people get banned.

 

Twitter bans people for inciting violence, inciting hatred, inciting crimes/harm to others and COVID misinformation.

 

I doubt very much Twitter under Musk will make any significant changes to those ‘banned’ behaviors and I see no sensible argument why Twitter should do so.

 

 

Do you have evidence that something posted on Twitter can incite violence, as opposed to those people being prepped and primed to commit violence, anyway? 

 

If you---or Twitter---can't prove that things posted on their site can actually trigger  a violent reaction........... then Twitter shouldn't ban people as if they do! 

 

"Might" and "can" are both weak arguments. Before taking away a person's voice---their so-called "Freedom of Speech"---there ought to be at least SOME proof that what they're claiming can happen........... actually CAN happen! 

 

 

Now, Twitter is a business and they get to make these decisions for themselves. But as consumers of their product, it's reasonable to expect them to offer truthful answer to these questions, not just theory and hyperbole.

 

Because....... 

 

Capricious behavior now........

almost always predicts...........

capricious behavior in the future! 

 

Musk buying Twitter has the potential to alter that, perhaps radically. 

 

(And that's why discussing things that have---or could---result in major alterations in Twitter's management decisions.......... matters!) 

 

Cheers! 

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Isn't twitter supposed to be a universal social media platform for everyone above the ages of 13? Similar to Facebook.

 

As such then I see no justification for normalizing hate speech, inciting violence, suicide, rape, extreme gore, child abuse, self harm etc

 

For people who want to associate with that sort of content perhaps platforms such as Telegram are better suited?

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