snoop1130 Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 The Royal Thai Police have announced the launch of a program to facilitate the clearing of the criminal records of those either acquitted in court or who have had their cases dropped by public prosecutors, so that they can resume their normal lives and apply for employment without problems. Currently, such people have to file petitions with the Police Clearance Service Centre to have their criminal records expunged, after which they are issued with a “clearance certificate”. Keep up to date with all things Thailand - Join our daily ASEAN NOW Thailand Newsletter - Click to subscribe Assistant to the National Police Chief Pol Lt-Gen Surachate Hakparn said today (Tuesday) that this old process places the burden to the petitioners. To end this, the names of these people will now be removed from the records once they are cleared by a court or by public prosecutors of any wrongdoing. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-police-to-speed-up-clearing-of-criminal-records-of-those-found-not-guilty/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-05-03 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted May 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The Royal Thai Police have announced the launch of a program to facilitate the clearing of the criminal records of those either acquitted in court or who have had their cases dropped by public prosecutors Hold on a minute, you're telling me that people have a 'criminal record' before being convicted by a court? 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted May 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: To end this, the names of these people will now be removed from the records once they are cleared by a court or by public prosecutors of any wrongdoing. Why are they given a criminal record if they have not been found guilty of any criminality? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted May 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2022 So it's Guilty ... until proven innocent , Thai justice , regards worgeordie 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 9 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Currently, such people have to file petitions with the Police Clearance Service Centre to have their criminal records expunged, after which they are issued with a “clearance certificate”. Begs the question why do they have a "criminal record" before a guilty verdict issued in court? Surely up-to and in court only an investigation has taken place, and if innocent those documents can be destroyed? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 Looks like everyone starts off with a criminal record until your rich then your criminality is on the pay as you go system ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Rest assured, we're on it. Our new loose-fit uniforms are built for speed.......???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 10 hours ago, ukrules said: Hold on a minute, you're telling me that people have a 'criminal record' before being convicted by a court? hard to figure out what they are sating - but yes, it seems in Thailand you are guilty until proven innocent would be my interpretation - what a backwards country 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 300sd Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 The beauty of being guilty before proven innocent is that one gets to buy his freedom without the hassle of court and lawyers etc. This must be the reason why many young men want to join the police force. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, smedly said: but yes, it seems in Thailand you are guilty until proven innocent would be my interpretation Depends on status. And your relationship with the powers that be. Sure even heinous criminals from the upper reaches occasionally get prosecuted, but with good behavior and royal pardons, they walk after having served quite short terms. And seem to slide right back into previous jobs and society. You also get a 50% discount if you plead guilty. And only the rich folks get bail, all others languish in jail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Does this apply to crooked police? About 80 have been dismissed already this year; will this mean they can re-apply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalGuy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 12 hours ago, ukrules said: Hold on a minute, you're telling me that people have a 'criminal record' before being convicted by a court? any arrest or caution record in UK without court conviction is held privately on police computer and not shown on any public police clearance letter. Same with minor convictions like common assault after maybe ten years. This is probably common practice worldwide ? Thailand might follow that ? (especially in a society with no enforced rules that cannot be circumvented by cash or connections !). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalGuy Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, smedly said: hard to figure out what they are sating - but yes, it seems in Thailand you are guilty until proven innocent would be my interpretation - what a backwards country When the King reformed & modernized Thai Law some 140 years ago, necessary for international trade purposes initially, they took heavily from the Napoleonic French Law in Cambodia which was “ I Accuse ! So Guilty Until Proven Innocent ”. Believe Thai Defamation Laws came in this way too. Complete opposite of the English Common Law in British Burma / Malaysia then ( Innocent until Proven Guilty / No Defamation if Proven True) which was also partly incorporated in modern Thai law. So not sure about current Thai Law in respect to Innocence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomchaiCNX Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 And the main question how much to put in the brown envelope to get cleared by those who put your name on the list in the first place. Or did I read between the lines they want those in uniform the be cleared from the list? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Read that Thailand is innocent before proven guilty. Perhaps it’s suspected of crime on record And once innocent not cleared quickly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, TropicalGuy said: any arrest or caution record in UK without court conviction is held privately on police computer and not shown on any public police clearance letter. Same with minor convictions like common assault after maybe ten years. This is probably common practice worldwide ? Not in the USA. (AKA "Prison Planet"). On the record forever (unless one can get it expunged but that is not automatic, and a limited window). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 5 hours ago, SomchaiCNX said: And the main question how much to put in the brown envelope to get cleared by those who put your name on the list in the first place. Or did I read between the lines they want those in uniform the be cleared from the list? Oh don't worry. They will tell you exactly how much they want. The problem is there is usually half a dozen to pay off! So just times it by the number on duty that day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Yet another archaic law that puts the not guilty last in the process of the law as we see daily. Dark ages stuff from the Thai government yet again. No interest in justice, just prosecute, prosecute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTB1977 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 With a 95% conviction rate it shouldn't take long to erase the 5% lucky ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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