snoop1130 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Almost a year after legislation came into effect regulating dog and cat breeders in Thailand, Soi Dog Foundation has expressed concern about its implementation, stating that concrete legal action has yet to be taken. The pieces of legislation in question – Dog Welfare in Dog Breeding Farms and Cat Welfare in Cat Breeding Farms – were published in the Government Gazette on December 18, 2020 and became effective from June 16, 2021. However, little has been done to ensure they are being effectively implemented. As a member of Thailand’s Cruelty Prevention and Welfare of Animal Committee, Soi Dog Foundation was closely involved in the drafting of this legislation which is in place to ensure the welfare of dogs and cats on breeding farms and in pet shops; enhance inspections of such farms and shops; and shut down those that do not comply with the necessary standards. Keep up to date with all things Thailand - Join our daily ASEAN NOW Thailand Newsletter - Click to subscribe The standards outlined in the legislation include, among other things, the diet and amount an animal is fed, the size of their enclosure or resting place, their access to exercise, socialisation and veterinary care, the maximum number of litters they produce in their lifetime and at which point they should be retired from breeding altogether. While Soi Dog Foundation does not agree with the intentional breeding of dogs and cats – particularly given the enormous stray population that already exists in the country – they recognise that it takes place and wish to ensure the wellbeing of all animals involved. “We understand that it has been difficult [for the authorities] to visit breeding farms and other commercial facilities during the pandemic,” said Dr. Tuntikorn Rungpatana (Dr. Oob) who represents Soi Dog on the aforementioned committee. “However, during this time, we have seen farms close due to the economic crisis and animals abandoned which is also a major problem.” Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2022/05/18/soi-dog-foundation-calls-for-tougher-enforcement-of-dog-and-cat-breeding-welfare-laws/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2022-05-18 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted May 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2022 They keep strays alive to carry on barking, biting and causing a mess, disease and traffic hazard. These people are part of the dog and cat problem. 7 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reposed Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: While Soi Dog Foundation does not agree with the intentional breeding of dogs and cats Dogs and cats living together! Bill Murray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medimedia Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 “They keep strays alive to carry on barking, biting and causing a mess, disease and traffic hazard. These people are part of the dog and cat problem.“ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Soi Dog Foundation This lot have sterilised hundreds of dogs at great cost and effort. These hundreds are then put back on the sois to continue defecating/urinating/disease spreading/accident causing/noise making/oxygen thieving lives to the detriment of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 9 hours ago, proton said: They keep strays alive to carry on barking, biting and causing a mess, disease and traffic hazard. These people are part of the dog and cat problem. Idiots compassion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 hours ago, proton said: They keep strays alive to carry on barking, biting and causing a mess, disease and traffic hazard. These people are part of the dog and cat problem. They sterilize them to stop further breeding, nobody enjoys watching them cause accidents, defecating & urinating in the sois, what do you suggest they do, leave them alone to carry on breeding which is why there are so many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: They sterilize them to stop further breeding, nobody enjoys watching them cause accidents, defecating & urinating in the sois, what do you suggest they do, leave them alone to carry on breeding which is why there are so many. Sadly it does not appear to be working. Some areas, the situation may have improved but I suspect that is about image and those areas being wealthy. Where I live, if anything, there are now more stray dogs about than when I moved here over a decade ago.... likely since we have a few more kind souls feeding them... misguided. They cleared them away one day, but someone complained they were their pets and back they were in a few days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, jacko45k said: Sadly it does not appear to be working. Some areas, the situation may have improved but I suspect that is about image and those areas being wealthy. Where I live, if anything, there are now more stray dogs about than when I moved here over a decade ago.... likely since we have a few more kind souls feeding them... misguided. They cleared them away one day, but someone complained they were their pets and back they were in a few days. Difficult to know if its working without knowing what those areas would be like had they not intervened. Not sure also how widespread their campaigns are in Thailand and if they covered your area but as their website states: It is widely agreed that the only ethical and most effective way of managing a stray dog population is through a programme of mass spay and neuter, or CNVR (Catch, Neuter, Vaccinate, Return). I've been to their main center in Phuket a couple of times and they do a fantastic job 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I've been to their main center in Phuket a couple of times and they do a fantastic job Here in Pattaya area, I still often get a shock when I come round a corner and need to brake for a little pack of puppies.... I adopted a stray cat recently and the local vet charged me 2500 to get her neutered.... not within the means of the villagers around me. Edited May 19, 2022 by jacko45k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Here in Pattaya area, I still often get a shock when I come round a corner and need to brake for a little pack of puppies.... I adopted a stray cat recently and the local vet charged me 2500 to get her neutered.... not within the means of the villagers around me. Agreed and while the government does next to nothing to address the problem at least there are some charities such as Soi Dog who at least show effort and provide this service for free through the generous donations of people who care. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post warrima Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2022 Maybe not very applicable to this post but i often wonder why professional expats (meaning work related visa holders) keep pets and particularly dogs here. Our condo changed its policy about 5 years ago to allow pets and there was quite an influx of foreigners with dogs who moved in renting. Over the covid period there was so many notices up looking to re-home dogs with notes saying 'urgent returning to home country in 3 weeks' etc. I have no idea what they do with them if they cant get someone to take them on. Just seems such a selfish thing to have pets if your not permanently relocated here. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, mikebell said: This lot have sterilised hundreds of dogs at great cost and effort. These hundreds are then put back on the sois to continue defecating/urinating/disease spreading/accident causing/noise making/oxygen thieving lives to the detriment of people. True, they have done less than 100 dogs a day since they started on average, Merely keeping the population boom down slightly, while pretending to be the answer and raking the money in 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, proton said: True, they have done less than 100 dogs a day since they started on average, Merely keeping the population boom down slightly, while pretending to be the answer and raking the money in Really? Phuket, the stray population on the island is now officially under control. Global studies have shown that once 80% of the population has been neutered, the number of animals living on the streets begins to decline naturally. By 2025, there should be very few strays on the streets and beaches of Phuket. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: They sterilize them to stop further breeding, nobody enjoys watching them cause accidents, defecating & urinating in the sois, what do you suggest they do, leave them alone to carry on breeding which is why there are so many. Soi dog foundation should be putting these pests down not enabling them to carry on, their sterilisation numbers countrywide are ineffective 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, proton said: Soi dog foundation should be putting these pests down not enabling them to carry on, their sterilisation numbers countrywide are ineffective Aaaaah now I get you. Is that not illegal in Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Really? Phuket, the stray population on the island is now officially under control. Global studies have shown that once 80% of the population has been neutered, the number of animals living on the streets begins to decline naturally. By 2025, there should be very few strays on the streets and beaches of Phuket. Thus always comes up, what was done on an island with far fewer numbers cannot be replicated countrywide, not by the soi dog foundation anyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Aaaaah now I get you. Is that not illegal in Thailand? Lots of things are but still takes place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, proton said: Lots of things are but still takes place Yes that would do it, carry out mass executions of stray dogs and cats even though its illegal and they would be prosecuted. I hear Soi Dog also does great work in stopping the dog meat trade: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 A lot of Western countries have strict laws on breeding pets,still many dogs and cats are being culled every year. Another law in Thailand that will and can not be enforced. I know of so called"breeders"that keep their dog in very small cages and produce puppies by the dozens. Puppies are cute and easy to sell to gullible people. After 3 months they loose the cuteness and that is where the problem starts. Sure registered breeders can be checked and regulated but what about the so called "hobby breeders"? They fly under the radar and get away with all kinds of abuse. I know the Soi dog Foundation is doing their best but they could do a lot better. The problem could be solved in a lot better and faster way but that would require action from the local authorities and that will not happen soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes that would do it, carry out mass executions of stray dogs and cats even though its illegal and they would be prosecuted. I hear Soi Dog also does great work in stopping the dog meat trade: But do nothing to stop the pig meat and cow meat trade, what makes dogs so special? I don't see stray pigs and cows roaming about causing a nuisance, why not eat dogs as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, proton said: But do nothing to stop the pig meat and cow meat trade, what makes dogs so special? I don't see stray pigs and cows roaming about causing a nuisance, why not eat dogs as well? I don't see many pigs or cows being kept as pets either...mmmm wonder why people prefer cats and dogs? Edited May 19, 2022 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, Bkk Brian said: I don't see any pigs or cows being kept as pets either...mmmm wonder why Soi dogs are not pets either, they are no better than vermin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, proton said: Soi dogs are not pets either, they are no better than vermin Soi dog is sterilizing as many as it can afford through donations, seems we're back to square one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: They sterilize them to stop further breeding, nobody enjoys watching them cause accidents, defecating & urinating in the sois, what do you suggest they do, leave them alone to carry on breeding which is why there are so many. It is the responsibility of a town or city to engage in frequent culling of the soi dog population. I know some snowflake types will accuse me of cruelty, for even suggesting this. But, the reality is these pests are not wanted, needed, and cause a multitude of problems for the communities. They serve no useful function, and most lead miserable lives. Pets are different. Soi dogs are a pestilence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: It is the responsibility of a town or city to engage in frequent culling of the soi dog population. I know some snowflake types will accuse me of cruelty, for even suggesting this. But, the reality is these pests are not wanted, needed, and cause a multitude of problems for the communities. They serve no useful function, and most lead miserable lives. Pets are different. Soi dogs are a pestilence. While I don't disagree, the fact is that is not happening and as a direct result of that Soi Dog is involved in its work otherwise they wouldn't have to bother and would probably have a different name other than Soi Dog Edited May 19, 2022 by Bkk Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidgra Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/19/2022 at 8:57 AM, jacko45k said: Here in Pattaya area, I still often get a shock when I come round a corner and need to brake for a little pack of puppies.... I adopted a stray cat recently and the local vet charged me 2500 to get her neutered.... not within the means of the villagers around me. it costs 1000 maximum to neuter a cat... i guess that you spend wisely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, vidgra said: This is why we ❤️ them ! I hope you enjoy, as they will still be here after you fortunately are not ! Lovers of scabby dogs usually like to make things personal in the end, when they have no argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Shoot the effin lot. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 hours ago, vidgra said: it costs 1000 maximum to neuter a cat... i guess that you spend wisely... It costs what it costs. It is not 1000 near me, I paid the lesser of a few quotes. What a nonsensical post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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