Jan. 6 committee says probe shows Trump led and directed effort to overturn 2020 election

[Longwood50]

Maybe they can get Christopher Steele to write a dossier with all of the pertinent details and have Fusion GPS and the Perkins Coi law firm spearhead the dossier.  They did such a great job with the one on Russia.  

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, Longwood50 said:

Maybe they can get Christopher Steele to write a dossier with all of the pertinent details and have Fusion GPS and the Perkins Coi law firm spearhead the dossier.  They did such a great job with the one on Russia.  

Dossier not needed when you have powerful testimony from a parade of Republicans and Trump White House aides. This time no House republicans can help Trump avoid indictment. 

[Wrwest]

On 6/22/2022 at 4:00 AM, Jingthing said:

The hardcore will just tune it out anyway. It's not a realistic goal to persuade everyone.  

Not everyone, just the overwhelming majority. And most important those who are empowered to bring charges …

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, Longwood50 said:

Maybe they can get Christopher Steele to write a dossier with all of the pertinent details and have Fusion GPS and the Perkins Coi law firm spearhead the dossier.  They did such a great job with the one on Russia.  

You have anything else other than this inane diversion? You know, since the topic is trump's treachery in trying to overturn a fair election which he lost by over 7 million votes.

Anything on that?

 

No? Didn't think so.....

[Phoenix Rising]

Here Are the Members of Congress Who Asked Trump for Pardons After January 6

 

From the article this is the list of traitors:

 

"Mo Brooks, Matt Gaetz, Andy Biggs, Louie Gohmert, Scott Perry, Marjorie Taylor Greene"

[Saanim]

Wondering what would happen in case Ivanka said she does not believe the election was not stolen? 

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4 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Wondering what would happen in case Ivanka said she does not believe the election was not stolen? 

She already did in her deposition to the committee where she said she accepted William Barr's characterization of the alleged evidence proving that fraud had occurred.

Edited June 24, 2022 by placeholder

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Wondering what would happen in case Ivanka said she does not believe the election was not stolen? 

Then she would have been lying in her deposition, yes?

 

 

Edited June 24, 2022 by Yellowtail

[heybruce]

4 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Wondering what would happen in case Ivanka said she does not believe the election was not stolen? 

Was that an intentional double-negative?  Suggesting Ivanka might say she believes the election was stolen?

 

I suppose it doesn't matter.  How many people car what Ivanka says or believes?

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Wondering what would happen in case Ivanka said she does not believe the election was not stolen? 

Former US President Donald Trump has hit back at his daughter Ivanka after she distanced herself from his unfounded claims of mass voter fraud.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61767628

 

In a piece of video evidence shared during Rep. Liz Cheney's opening statement Thursday during the hearing of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, Ivanka Trump, the former president's daughter and his onetime White House adviser, reacted to then-Attorney General William Barr saying that the 2020 election was not stolen.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/09/1104081027/ivanka-trump-said-she-accepted-barrs-conclusion-that-the-2020-election-wasnt-sto

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2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

She already did in her deposition to the committee where she said she accepted William Barr's characterization of the alleged evidence proving that fraud had occurred.

Well, I missed the double negative. So she also said in footage for a documentary that she supported her father's attempts to find proof of fraud. So she seems to have a position to suit every situation. Kind of reminds me of Groucho Marx's remarks about his principles.

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46 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

The documentary footage evidence just came to light. And the committee is planning to feature it somewhere down the line.

[Mavideol]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, I missed the double negative. So she also said in footage for a documentary that she supported her father's attempts to find proof of fraud. So she seems to have a position to suit every situation. Kind of reminds me of Groucho Marx's remarks about his principles.

during the documentary footage she also said that her father wanted Every Single Vote counted.... and I almost choked when heard it

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Here Are the Members of Congress Who Asked Trump for Pardons After January 6

 

From the article this is the list of traitors:

 

"Mo Brooks, Matt Gaetz, Andy Biggs, Louie Gohmert, Scott Perry, Marjorie Taylor Greene"

and  kiss axx scam bag Jim Jordan didn't make the list but, but....

 

In addition, while Hutchinson said Jim Jordan did not ask for a pardon, he did inquire about the prospect of pardons.

 

 

Edited June 24, 2022 by Mavideol

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, Kenneth White said:

 

Barr did not simply ‘answer the question as it was asked’.

 

He gave a full response and filled it out with details of his conversation with Trump.

 

Barr’s testimony does two things.

 

1. He confirms the DoJ had found no significant election fraud.

 

2. He confirms that Trump was informed to his face that Trump’s claim of the ‘Big Steal’ were an abject lie.

 

Trump continued lie with his ‘Big Steal’, used this lie to incite the attack on the Capitol and went on to scam his supporters into handing him money.

 

 

There is zero credible argument that Trump has not been willfully lying throughout, he has no defense of ‘I did not know’.

 

[Phoenix Rising]

21 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The documentary footage evidence just came to light. And the committee is planning to feature it somewhere down the line.

Could get interesting.

 

Trump aides didn't know someone was filming Trump on January 6 until the House committee got the footage: reports

 

"Aides to Donald Trump had no idea a documentary filmmaker had recorded the former president on Jan. 6, 2021, until the House committee investigating that day subpoenaed the footage, reports said.

The existence of the footage — shot by UK documentarian Alex Holder — was first reported by Politico on Tuesday.

The outlet said that Holder complied with the House committee request and handed over several months of footage of Trump, up to and including footage he took on Jan. 6."

[Excel]

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

Could get interesting.

 

Trump aides didn't know someone was filming Trump on January 6 until the House committee got the footage: reports

 

"Aides to Donald Trump had no idea a documentary filmmaker had recorded the former president on Jan. 6, 2021, until the House committee investigating that day subpoenaed the footage, reports said.

The existence of the footage — shot by UK documentarian Alex Holder — was first reported by Politico on Tuesday.

The outlet said that Holder complied with the House committee request and handed over several months of footage of Trump, up to and including footage he took on Jan. 6."

Well well, that could turn up trumps then

[Phoenix Rising]

Jan. 6 hearing: Ex-DOJ officials testify Trump wanted them to 'just say the election was corrupt'

 

"In testimony before the Jan. 6 committee Thursday, former Justice Department officials described a 90-minute phone call in late December 2020 with then-President Donald Trump during which Trump pleaded with them to declare that the election was "corrupt" despite being told his claims of fraud were false.

During the Dec. 27, 2020, phone call with then-acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen and acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue, Trump raised a litany of false allegations about voter fraud. The former officials told the panel that they had investigated every claim and found they had no merit, but that Trump continued to peddle them."

[onthedarkside]

Several off-topic and diversion posts have been removed, along with ensuing replies.

[Phoenix Rising]

Fox News' Bret Baier Praises GOP 'Patriots' Who Stood Up To Trump's Election Plot

 

"Fox News anchor Bret Baier on Thursday hailed the Republican election officials and members of Donald Trump’s administration who stood up to his bogus efforts to overturn the 2020 election as “patriots.”"

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, Kenneth White said:

 

I’ll stick with testimony given under oath over some random video thank you.

 

Then I’ll raise you real signatures on forged State elector returns.

 

Forged documents, signed by people and submitted to National Archive in an attempt to over turn the election.

 

There’s the crime, there’s there’s  documentary evidence of the crime, there’s the signatures of the perpetrators on the documents and there’s the secure evidence trail.

 

[Yellowtail]

When can we expects the witnesses to be cross-examined? I'm betting mid November. 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

When can we expects the witnesses to be cross-examined? I'm betting mid November. 

This is an ‘Investigation’ not a ‘Trial’.

 

Witnesses are cross examined in ‘Trials’, they are not cross examined during ‘Investigations’.

 

Don’t be impatient, there will be cross examinations in the trials relating to J6.

 

DoJ raiding the homes of ‘witnesses’ is a sure sign you won’t have to wait long.

[Lacessit]

21 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Could get interesting.

 

Trump aides didn't know someone was filming Trump on January 6 until the House committee got the footage: reports

 

"Aides to Donald Trump had no idea a documentary filmmaker had recorded the former president on Jan. 6, 2021, until the House committee investigating that day subpoenaed the footage, reports said.

The existence of the footage — shot by UK documentarian Alex Holder — was first reported by Politico on Tuesday.

The outlet said that Holder complied with the House committee request and handed over several months of footage of Trump, up to and including footage he took on Jan. 6."

I wonder if Trump is running out of lawyers, he's probably going to try for an injunction to prevent the footage being seen.

If I was a lawyer acting for Trump, I would want money for work in advance. His  record of dudding contractors is well known.

[candide]

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

When can we expects the witnesses to be cross-examined? I'm betting mid November. 

I can imagine the cross-examination! ????

J. Jordan: Mr. Barr, do you think former BLM protests actually induced protesters to storm the Capitol?

W. Barr: No, it is B.S.!

[ozimoron]

Legal expert walks through how DOJ raid on Jeff Clark could lead to Trump indictment

 

Ahead of the fifth public hearing for the House Select Committee investigating the attempt to overthrow the 2020 election, Donald Trump's former Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Clark was raided by federal agents.

 

He explained that to get a search warrant a federal judge must find that there is probable cause for it.

 

So, in the case of Clark, a judge must believe that a crime has been committed based on the evidence shown to the court.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/jeffrey-clark-trump-indictment-possibilities/

[candide]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Legal expert walks through how DOJ raid on Jeff Clark could lead to Trump indictment

 

Ahead of the fifth public hearing for the House Select Committee investigating the attempt to overthrow the 2020 election, Donald Trump's former Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Clark was raided by federal agents.

 

He explained that to get a search warrant a federal judge must find that there is probable cause for it.

 

So, in the case of Clark, a judge must believe that a crime has been committed based on the evidence shown to the court.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/jeffrey-clark-trump-indictment-possibilities/

I also guess he did not take the 5th for no reason...

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/03/politics/jeffrey-clark-justice-department-plead-fifth-january-6/index.html

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, candide said:

I also guess he did not take the 5th for no reason...

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/03/politics/jeffrey-clark-justice-department-plead-fifth-january-6/index.html

More than 100 no reasons

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Breaking News!

Jan. 6 Panel Abruptly Sets Tuesday Hearing on ‘Recently Obtained Evidence’

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol on Monday abruptly scheduled a hearing for Tuesday afternoon to hear what the panel called “recently obtained evidence” and take witness testimony.

The hearing is scheduled for 1 p.m., according to a news release issued by the committee, in which it provided no other details about the surprise session.

The panel has held a series of hearings this month laying out the findings of its nearly yearlong investigation, but it had not been scheduled to have any additional sessions this week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/us/politics/jan-6-panel-abruptly-sets-tuesday-hearing-on-recently-obtained-evidence.html

 

Any bets on whether this turns out to be good news or bad news for Trump? Hmmm....

[ozimoron]

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Breaking News!

Jan. 6 Panel Abruptly Sets Tuesday Hearing on ‘Recently Obtained Evidence’

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol on Monday abruptly scheduled a hearing for Tuesday afternoon to hear what the panel called “recently obtained evidence” and take witness testimony.

The hearing is scheduled for 1 p.m., according to a news release issued by the committee, in which it provided no other details about the surprise session.

The panel has held a series of hearings this month laying out the findings of its nearly yearlong investigation, but it had not been scheduled to have any additional sessions this week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/us/politics/jan-6-panel-abruptly-sets-tuesday-hearing-on-recently-obtained-evidence.html

 

Any bets on whether this turns out to be good news or bad news for Trump? Hmmm....

Difficult to imagine it as good news for Trump. Obviously some people have decided to come clean.