onthedarkside Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Russian President Vladimir Putin Yale historian Timothy Snyder said Russian President Vladimir Putin plans to starve some countries as part of his efforts in Ukraine. Snyder published a lengthy Twitter thread Saturday explaining how he believes Putin is using food insecurity to his advantage and called it the "latest chapter of hunger politics." "Russia has a hunger plan. Vladimir Putin is preparing to starve much of the developing world as the next stage in his war in Europe," Snyder, a professor at Yale University and expert on authoritarianism, began, noting the importance of Ukraine's food exports to the global food supply. The area around the Black Sea, including Ukraine and Russia, has been referred to as the "world's breadbasket" due to its fertile soil and high rates of grain production. Collectively, the two countries account for 30% of the global wheat exports while Ukraine produces about 12%. (more) https://news.yahoo.com/putin-preparing-starve-much-developing-051547728.html 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 As Russia won't fire on some countries let India lead a convoy of ships to get the grain. As simple as that!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blazes Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) Putin has guaranteed grain for Africa. https://www.modernghana.com/news/1163191/russias-grain-freeze-causes-famine-in-africa.html Edited June 13, 2022 by onthedarkside off topic trolling comment removed 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GrandPapillon Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 how is it different from imposing a ban on Russian imports of oil and gas? world leaders are living in lala land, 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 hours ago, blazes said: Putin has guaranteed grain for Africa. https://www.modernghana.com/news/1163191/russias-grain-freeze-causes-famine-in-africa.html Of course, Putin, has his expanding force of his Wagner private army in Africa, up to their usual crimes However nowhere in your article did I see your claim that "Putin has guaranteed grain for Africa." This is what was stated: Senegal's President Macky Sall asked, Putin personally to deliver grain again to Africa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 The two worst things that ever happened to the world Politics and religion. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 There is no question this pathological super freak would do nearly anything to achieve his ends. If it means starving tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of men, women and children, I doubt it means anything to him. I always knew he was a sadistic, serial killing madman. What I never know before, was that he is not an intelligent man. I always just sort of assumed that about him, but now he has proven otherwise. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 hours ago, blazes said: Putin has guaranteed grain for Africa. https://www.modernghana.com/news/1163191/russias-grain-freeze-causes-famine-in-africa.html Actually its most reasonably sane and balanced observers and academics across the globe who say this so who's having problems with their nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropposurfer Posted June 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) Its a shame what has happened to Russia. It was, after glasnost, that their new President turned them away for integration and equal partnership with the west of Europe. The Russian people were so excited at the prospect or a free and bright future back then. Now look at it. My journalist Russian friends (in Austria now) are so sad and broken hearted at the dark shroud that has been drawn over their people. Edited June 13, 2022 by Tropposurfer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Tropposurfer said: Its a shame what has happened to Russia. It was, after glasnost, that their new President turned them away for integration and equal partnership with the west of Europe. The Russian people were so excited at the prospect or a free and bright future back then. Now look at it. My journalist Russian friends (in Austria now) are so sad and broken hearted at the dark shroud that has been drawn over their people. The world is becoming a darker place, it seems. And creeps like Putin are leading the way. I do feel for young Russians. Not alot of hope. Then again, the same could be said for young Thais, young Americans, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncltd1973 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 19 hours ago, GreasyFingers said: Between the communist Red Terror killing off 25-30 million of their own citizens, and Putin's aggressions and oligarchy, Russia is making a strong point that it's too big for the global good. Russia's GDP is the same as Spain; if it wasn't for oil and metals, Russia would have been left behind. They were given the same gift of German scientists at the end of ww2, but all they can show for it is atomic warheads and weapons. Opportunities squandered. The US isn't trying to break up Russia tho. One reason is their atomic warheads ending up on the black market. Another reason, the US needs a nemesis for weapons proliferation and it can't be with our trading partner, China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 12 hours ago, vandeventer said: As Russia won't fire on some countries let India lead a convoy of ships to get the grain. As simple as that!!! India would never do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 16 hours ago, hotchilli said: The two worst things that ever happened to the world Politics and religion. I agree with half of what you say, as we need more religion in are lives to make this a better world to live in. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 22 hours ago, hotchilli said: The two worst things that ever happened to the world Politics and religion. but not in that order 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: what the US' goals have been for months Surely for decades? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Surely for decades? Yes possibly since Russia invaded Crimea, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Excel said: but not in that order Well that might depend on whether you've been shot at or shot up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 8 hours ago, vandeventer said: I agree with half of what you say, as we need more religion in are lives to make this a better world to live in. Onward Christian Soldiers! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, placeholder said: Onward Christian Soldiers! That was meant for only believers in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, vandeventer said: That was meant for only believers in God. The thing about religious people I admire most is how they stick to their convictions about the primacy of morality: "In 2011, 30 percent of white evangelicals said that "an elected official who commits an immoral act in their personal life can still behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life." Now, 72 percent say so — a far bigger swing than other religious groups the poll studied. White evangelicals also are less likely than they used to be to say that "strong religious beliefs" are "very important" in a presidential candidate. That share fell from 64 percent in 2011 to 49 percent this year." https://www.npr.org/2016/10/23/498890836/poll-white-evangelicals-have-warmed-to-politicians-who-commit-immoral-acts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, vandeventer said: That was meant for only believers in God. Really? I thought it was addressed to atheists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 3:36 AM, GrandPapillon said: how is it different from imposing a ban on Russian imports of oil and gas? world leaders are living in lala land, Seriously? You don't understand the difference between countries choosing to not by something, and not having the choice of buying something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaBob Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 "But some Biden administration officials are now privately expressing concern that rather than dissuading the Kremlin as intended, the penalties are instead exacerbating inflation, worsening food insecurity and punishing ordinary Russians more than Putin or his allies." Good time as any for the big key principles to initiate Plan B and get to the peace table NOW and stop the killing. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-14/corporate-self-sanctioning-of-russia-has-us-fearing-economic-blowback 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaiHard Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 8:38 PM, cncltd1973 said: Between the communist Red Terror killing off 25-30 million of their own citizens, and Putin's aggressions and oligarchy, Russia is making a strong point that it's too big for the global good. Russia's GDP is the same as Spain; if it wasn't for oil and metals, Russia would have been left behind. They were given the same gift of German scientists at the end of ww2, but all they can show for it is atomic warheads and weapons. Opportunities squandered. The US isn't trying to break up Russia tho. One reason is their atomic warheads ending up on the black market. Another reason, the US needs a nemesis for weapons proliferation and it can't be with our trading partner, China. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olfu Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 ...developing world? maybe its time for developing world to start developing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 10:41 PM, onthedarkside said: "Russia has a hunger plan. Vladimir Putin is preparing to starve much of the developing world as the next stage in his war in Europe," I saw a piece on the news where they spoke to a farmer who wants to sell his grain to the EU. He can't, even by road. It's very difficult. Ukraine has banned all working age men from leaving the country. This includes the truck drivers. Think about that for a minute or two. Ukraine turned off all the supply lines out of their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 7:33 AM, vandeventer said: we need more religion in are lives to make this a better world to live in. Religion of Peace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, ukrules said: I saw a piece on the news where they spoke to a farmer who wants to sell his grain to the EU. He can't, even by road. It's very difficult. Ukraine has banned all working age men from leaving the country. This includes the truck drivers. Think about that for a minute or two. Ukraine turned off all the supply lines out of their country. The US is building grain silos on the border with Poland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The US is building grain silos on the border with Poland. They have banned the drivers from driving outside the country. Maybe that will change. Current export restrictions right now are self inflicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, ukrules said: I saw a piece on the news where they spoke to a farmer who wants to sell his grain to the EU. He can't, even by road. It's very difficult. Ukraine has banned all working age men from leaving the country. This includes the truck drivers. Think about that for a minute or two. Ukraine turned off all the supply lines out of their country. You think Ukraine is going to commit economic suicide by not allowing truck drivers to leave the country? I haven't seen any notice anywhere that Ukraine is no longer exporting goods. Unless all their truck drivers are women, I imagine that the Ukrainian govt allows male drivers of working age to transport goods in the interests of national defense and economic survival. Edited June 18, 2022 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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